The joys of office broscience - misguided food/nutrition advice
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Has anyone heard of this before? Nightshade vegetables worsening ailments and pain?! A friend sent me this today...
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/nightshade-vegetables-can-worsen-pain/
I've asked a few rheumatologists; all of them have said not to worry about it because there's no evidence it makes any difference. Which is good, because tomatoes, garlic, and onions make up the fourth food group in the Acrylics house-- pasta sauce.0 -
I like to exercise in the mornings (currently doing PiYo) and eat right after. Exercising after I've recently eaten tends to give me stomach cramps. One of my friends told me that I should eat before I exercise because "Exercising before you eat doesn't do you any good. Your body doesn't burn anything because your metabolism hasn't been activated." This was when I was relatively new to exercise and calorie counting so I gave a weak rebuttal about your body having to burn something while moving. She just shook her head at me. "Nope, it doesn't do a thing!" Good thing I didn't listen to her nonsense...0
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Something that has always boggled my mind, can someone explain the concept behind ordering a large Big Mac value meal and a diet coke?
She told me it was to save on cals...
I always ordered Diet Coke because I liked the taste more than regular coke. Maybe that makes me weird. The only 'regular' soda I'd drink was Mt. Dew.
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As fate would have it I was busy ready this very thread when a colleague told me that her friend was on the blood group diet and was told she couldn't eat any white meat because it makes her fat. Apparently mutton and beef is better for weight loss for her blood group.
I just stared and thought "well if you eat an entire chicken with skin then yes, a lamb chop is probably healthier".0 -
RaeBeeBaby wrote: »A friend at work told me she was eliminating carbs and fat and eating mostly protein, while she munched her way through a large bag of Cheetos. Because, cheese!
LMAO, I liked this thread best when it was just funny stories instead of the IIFYM arguing.
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Many over the years.
Got told by an obese lady that the sugar free pudding I was eating would make me fat.
Just yesterday, "I love banana bread, but it is so fattening". Me thinking, well so is everything if you eat too much of it.0 -
I know I've posted this before, but I don't think it was this thread. I used to work with a girl who cut out carbs and couldn't work out why she wasn't losing weight. She wasn't eating any rice, potato, pasta, bread, grains, crackers etc etc... she was complaining about this while eating a bag of jelly beans. I asked about the jelly beans, she said one of the reasons she was attracted to the low carb diet was being able to snack on them as much as she liked...
... you should have seen the look on her face when I gently explained that sugar was a carb. She had no idea.0 -
A girl at work last week went on and on about how "drinking cow's milk is soooo soooo bad for you"...while she was drinking an XL Slurpee from 7/11. Not really broscience but the hypocrisy was amusing.0
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I don't work but I just saw 'drink water to boost your metabolism'. Wouldn't that be nice.0
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Has anyone heard of this before? Nightshade vegetables worsening ailments and pain?! A friend sent me this today...
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/nightshade-vegetables-can-worsen-pain/
So all I have to do is eat brie and gouda and I can still have my nightshades.
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It would keep me thin. Mutton and beef are SOOO much more expensive than chicken.As fate would have it I was busy ready this very thread when a colleague told me that her friend was on the blood group diet and was told she couldn't eat any white meat because it makes her fat. Apparently mutton and beef is better for weight loss for her blood group.
I just stared and thought "well if you eat an entire chicken with skin then yes, a lamb chop is probably healthier".
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I have a coworker who refuses to eat meat. I told her it was nice that she was a vegetarian.
She said "no, I'm not a vegetarian. I just don't eat anything with muscles because I read that muscle weighs so much more than fat and I don't want to ingest all that heavy meat muscle". (shovels in the macaroni and cheese)
Go ahead...be flabbergasted.
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Next thing your are going to tell me is that rinsing my rice does not wash out the carbs.Alatariel75 wrote: »I know I've posted this before, but I don't think it was this thread. I used to work with a girl who cut out carbs and couldn't work out why she wasn't losing weight. She wasn't eating any rice, potato, pasta, bread, grains, crackers etc etc... she was complaining about this while eating a bag of jelly beans. I asked about the jelly beans, she said one of the reasons she was attracted to the low carb diet was being able to snack on them as much as she liked...
... you should have seen the look on her face when I gently explained that sugar was a carb. She had no idea.
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RaeBeeBaby wrote: »A friend at work told me she was eliminating carbs and fat and eating mostly protein, while she munched her way through a large bag of Cheetos. Because, cheese!
LMAO, I liked this thread best when it was just funny stories instead of the IIFYM arguing.
AGREED!Alatariel75 wrote: »I know I've posted this before, but I don't think it was this thread. I used to work with a girl who cut out carbs and couldn't work out why she wasn't losing weight. She wasn't eating any rice, potato, pasta, bread, grains, crackers etc etc... she was complaining about this while eating a bag of jelly beans. I asked about the jelly beans, she said one of the reasons she was attracted to the low carb diet was being able to snack on them as much as she liked...
... you should have seen the look on her face when I gently explained that sugar was a carb. She had no idea.
Jaw literally dropped.
Please continue to share your broscience stories. They are providing excellent entertainment! I'm still shocked by the story about the girl who doesn't eat meat because muscle weighs more than fat. That still has to be the winner!0 -
AGREED!
Jaw literally dropped.
Please continue to share your broscience stories. They are providing excellent entertainment! I'm still shocked by the story about the girl who doesn't eat meat because muscle weighs more than fat. That still has to be the winner!
Yeah, agreed on the muscle in meat story as the winner so far. I find myself hoping that the poster actually made it up, just so I don't lose all faith in the human species, but it's probably true.
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ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »
Yep that about covers it. It's super spammy.
I have a Facebook friend who sells it and when she first started posting about it I messaged her to let her know that her account had been hacked. Whoops.
I have a FB friend who is constantly bouncing from MLM to MLM and adding me to groups- the first couple times, I notified her of the "hack". Now I'm just peeved that I actually have to log into FB on the computer to remove myself because the "leave group" link on mobile is apparently broken.0 -
MarciBkonTrk wrote: »Here are my two favorites!
1. Dark urine is not a sign of dehydration, it's a sign that your kidneys are working to reabsorb the water your body needs! Huh? So why is it when a doctor thinks you are dehydrated one of the first things checked is the color of your urine.
2. Blending fruits and veggies into a smoothie destroys the fiber and nutrients mainly because of the heat generated during the blending process kills the nutrient and the act of blending kills the fiber. That must be one high-powered blender!!!
I doubt #2 is anywhere remotely true, but I have a high-powered blender (BlendTec) that will "cook" soup on the highest settings. Seriously, warm enough to eat.
Ed Blonz, Ph.D., a nutrition scientist and an assistant clinical professor at the University of California, San Francisco does a nutrition Q&A Column online has said that he totally disagrees that blending fruits and veggies destroys the fiber and nutrients but it does break the fiber into smaller particles. It's still the same fiber. And Dr. Katz (Oprah's nutrition expert) has said that he could not actually find any studies on this but did say "hard to imagine how a machine could do more damage than your molars, stomach acid, and digestive tract."
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Something that has always boggled my mind, can someone explain the concept behind ordering a large Big Mac value meal and a diet coke?
She told me it was to save on cals...
I do that all the time. If I want to fit a fast-food meal into my day, it helps to shave off the extra 300-400 calories from the soda. I don't think it's going to magically "cancel out" the food calories; it just lets me fit the meal I want into my calorie allotment more easily. The several hundred calories I save on the soda can be used to have a fairly filling lunch or dinner on the same day so that I'm not eating one fast-food meal and nothing else that day.
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this is my new favorite thread omg, im dying. (the "Eating for your blood type" diet officially blew my mind)0
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Something that has always boggled my mind, can someone explain the concept behind ordering a large Big Mac value meal and a diet coke?
She told me it was to save on cals...
You understand that 1040 calories (Big mac VM + Diet Coke) is less than 1320 calories (Big Mac VM + Coke), I hope? So yes it saves you significant calories.0 -
eboniivoried wrote: »My cube neighbor mentioned eliminating all carbs from her diet. I tried explaining that it's an important macronutrient and that carbs are not the devil. I cannot be too harsh on her though; I subscribed to the same philosophy as her at one point in my life.
Lots of people eliminate carbs; that doesn't qualify as "broscience".0 -
My friend and coworker who knows I am losing weight came over to share a book with me. He is cutting all wheat out of his diet because wheat is insulin spiking poison.
I said I am concerned about insulin impact of lots of carbs because I have a PCOS with insulin resistance. However, sugar and vegetables and fruits. ..ultimately all those have carbs similar to wheat (they all break down into glucose) so eating healthy protein and a moderate level of carbs is part of my diet but no foods are off limits. Ultimately this is COCO with a focus on healthy foods only because they make my body feel better.
His response. "But dieting is hard and a lot of people fail because of wheat. This is a lot easier because you just have to eliminate one thing and you don't diet at all."
*sigh* I swear this is an otherwise very intelligent man.0 -
Chrysalid2014 wrote: »Lots of people eliminate carbs; that doesn't qualify as "broscience".
As my mother would say, "If your friends jumped off the High Level bridge, would you do it too?" Just because it's popular right now does not mean it's good science. Or even good. We have three macro-nutrients and many, many micro-nutrients. I won't find many people who would argue over the necessity of a micro-nutrient, say, Vitamin D. So why do people think that the answer to their diet woes is to eliminate an entire macro-nutrient?
Besides, chances are they'll get it wrong. They'll cut breads and pastas but keep eating yams and fruit. And wonder why their carb numbers are still so high.
When I was diabetic, a well-meaning bunkmate at a women's retreat brought me a big bag of "sugar free" candies. I took one look at the nutrition label and rejected them. First ingredient? Glucose. Her nose was seriously out of joint. Oh well. I wasn't going to flake out on a sugar high just so she wouldn't be offended in her ignorance.0 -
This thread is great!
I have a coworker who once tried to convince me that an ice cream sundae is nutritionally equivalent to a banana. According to her, the banana is full of sugar anyways and too much potassium is bad for you so she avoids it. She also has high blood pressure and eats greasy salty takeout food every day for lunch. And veggies hurt her stomach.
I get up and walk away when she starts talking about food.0 -
MarciBkonTrk wrote: »Here are my two favorites!
1. Dark urine is not a sign of dehydration, it's a sign that your kidneys are working to reabsorb the water your body needs! Huh? So why is it when a doctor thinks you are dehydrated one of the first things checked is the color of your urine.
2. Blending fruits and veggies into a smoothie destroys the fiber and nutrients mainly because of the heat generated during the blending process kills the nutrient and the act of blending kills the fiber. That must be one high-powered blender!!!
Fiber can be killed? !0 -
Chrysalid2014 wrote: »Lots of people eliminate carbs; that doesn't qualify as "broscience".
As my mother would say, "If your friends jumped off the High Level bridge, would you do it too?" Just because it's popular right now does not mean it's good science. Or even good. We have three macro-nutrients and many, many micro-nutrients. I won't find many people who would argue over the necessity of a micro-nutrient, say, Vitamin D.
As far as I know no-one has ever been diagnosed with "carbohydrate deficiency".
So why do people think that the answer to their diet woes is to eliminate an entire macro-nutrient?
Because lots of people have discovered that a ketogenic lifestyle makes them feel better, perhaps?
Besides, chances are they'll get it wrong. They'll cut breads and pastas but keep eating yams and fruit. And wonder why their carb numbers are still so high.
That's like saying calorie counting is no good because people don't measure and weigh properly.
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Totally off topic, but I instantly knew you were from Edmonton from the bolded comment lolChrysalid2014 wrote: »Lots of people eliminate carbs; that doesn't qualify as "broscience".
As my mother would say, "If your friends jumped off the High Level bridge, would you do it too?" Just because it's popular right now does not mean it's good science. Or even good. We have three macro-nutrients and many, many micro-nutrients. I won't find many people who would argue over the necessity of a micro-nutrient, say, Vitamin D. So why do people think that the answer to their diet woes is to eliminate an entire macro-nutrient?
Besides, chances are they'll get it wrong. They'll cut breads and pastas but keep eating yams and fruit. And wonder why their carb numbers are still so high.
When I was diabetic, a well-meaning bunkmate at a women's retreat brought me a big bag of "sugar free" candies. I took one look at the nutrition label and rejected them. First ingredient? Glucose. Her nose was seriously out of joint. Oh well. I wasn't going to flake out on a sugar high just so she wouldn't be offended in her ignorance.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Something that has always boggled my mind, can someone explain the concept behind ordering a large Big Mac value meal and a diet coke?
She told me it was to save on cals...
I did the equivalent to that (pizza and diet coke, say--never liked Big Macs), because I like diet coke more than coke and can't see wasting calories on a soda. Spending calories on a pizza, that I can see.
THIS. I just like diet coke. A regular coke isn't a treat for me. A burger and fries *is* a treat so I will have that occasionally. (Though not McDonald's, I don't crave that).
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KatieJane83 wrote: »
AGREED!
Jaw literally dropped.
Please continue to share your broscience stories. They are providing excellent entertainment! I'm still shocked by the story about the girl who doesn't eat meat because muscle weighs more than fat. That still has to be the winner!
Yeah, agreed on the muscle in meat story as the winner so far. I find myself hoping that the poster actually made it up, just so I don't lose all faith in the human species, but it's probably true.
I often use the phrase "That's awesome!" In these situations. Most people are unaware the word can also mean overwhelming fear, and that level of stupid is definitely scary.0 -
Not at the office, but at the kid's athletic fields - parents (who otherwise seem diligent, loving, and intelligent) insisting that their 4yr to 7yr old child NEEDS a large (32oz) Gatorade during practice instead of plain water or they'll lose all their sodium and potassium. Note - this is a half hour practice in 60 to 70 degree weather - no one, not even I as an obese soccer coach was breaking any kind of sweat at all. (And of course, Gatorade has NO calories, and is fully beneficial - no way it could contribute to childhood obesity *sigh*)
FTR - my real objection to Gatorade on the field was it was so sticky when it spilled in my soccer bag
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