Do you ever want to want to eat something "bad"?
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macgurlnet wrote: »If you have the calories for the cookie, eat the cookie! Enjoy it. Make sure it's something you find tasty
~Lyssa
One of the things that has changed for me since being here at MFP is that I think about what I'm eating much more than I used to. So if I have some extra calories to use, I want to use them on something I will really enjoy.
Last night I thought I wanted one Anzac biscuit, but when I looked at them ... I changed my mind, they just weren't good enough for me to waste calorie on.
I go through that exact same thought process often also. Some things are just not worth the calories.0 -
I think I get this, it's sort of binge disorder thinking. You want to do something bad just because it's bad. You don't really want a cookie, you just want it because you're not supposed to have it. If this is the case, a lot of people are missing the point. And are lucky to have never experienced this.0
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It sounds odd but I get what your saying, My brain seems to think it should want a "bad" meal, it just doesn't really want it when I sit down to plan it and loses all appeal. (And I'm iifym...)
Honest advise is to go buy an individual big cookie with a coffee in starbucks or similar. See how you feel after, should be enough to satisfy the part of you that wants to be "bad" without blowing your calorie goal.
(I take this as a sign to watch myself closely, too many weird contradictory food thoughts and it's often time to take a break from the diet and chill. If you've been at this too long mild disordered thinking can creep in and that just sucks.)0 -
ObiWanJacoby_ wrote: »How long have you been dieting for and how much weight have you lost? When you diet for a extended period of time your bodies metabolism will slow down as it believes it's beginning to go into starvation mode. It no longer burns as many calories at rest than it did before. So introducing a re-feed day is common and recommend if you've lost a lot of weight, or having been dieting for a extended period of time. This causes us to have a heightened want and extreme cravings for food. So giving your body more carbs one day will help your body realize that what you're doing on is in fact on purpose and not because you are starving.
ONE DAY the god damn 'starvation mode' myth will die.
And OP, i totally get what you mean about 'wanting to want something'. It is hard to explain. It's almost disappointing when you look at a cookie and think 'i would have devoured you in a second two months ago. Now the sight of you doesn't do anything for me'.
It's like waking up one morning and suddenly realizing that your partner of 10 years is actually the most boring and unattractive person in the world and having no idea why you have suddenly come to that realization. That's the only way i can think of describing it
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NoIdea101NoIdea wrote: »ObiWanJacoby_ wrote: »How long have you been dieting for and how much weight have you lost? When you diet for a extended period of time your bodies metabolism will slow down as it believes it's beginning to go into starvation mode. It no longer burns as many calories at rest than it did before. So introducing a re-feed day is common and recommend if you've lost a lot of weight, or having been dieting for a extended period of time. This causes us to have a heightened want and extreme cravings for food. So giving your body more carbs one day will help your body realize that what you're doing on is in fact on purpose and not because you are starving.
ONE DAY the god damn 'starvation mode' myth will die.
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I get what you mean OP. I gave up smoking a long time ago but I still want to want a cigarette. I've even tried to have one but it just made me sick. The human mind is a beautiful and frightening thing!
Sometimes I want to want cake. Sometimes I even eat it when I don't want it because I feel I should crave it.
I think it's a sign we are doing well. We are not restricting ourselves and we are in control and not feeling deprived. Its in the human conditioning to feel that we should miss something when its gone, even if that thing wasn't good for us and having it gone is better for us.
Score 1 for the brain and 0 for the logic!0 -
Why is it that the "your body is in starvation mode" people always drop that bomb and then never return? It's like they want our heads to implode.0
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And OP, i totally get what you mean about 'wanting to want something'. It is hard to explain. It's almost disappointing when you look at a cookie and think 'i would have devoured you in a second two months ago. Now the sight of you doesn't do anything for me'.
It's like waking up one morning and suddenly realizing that your partner of 10 years is actually the most boring and unattractive person in the world and having no idea why you have suddenly come to that realization. That's the only way i can think of describing it
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I love this explanation, its totally on the money!0 -
It happens. I crave chips or candy bars sometimes, just like I crave cauliflower or greek yogurt other times. The best thing to do would be to have it and get this out of your system, and to have it guilt-free so you don't fall into a guilt-overeat cycle. What @Machka9 said is actually true. If you think about your leftover calories and what they could be spent on, would you spend them on those cookies or is there something else you would enjoy more? If you find yourself really wanting the cookies, then the calories are worth it. If not, then you will feel satisfied having something else you want more. It's not uncommon to want something out of habit or just because it's "naughty" and you're rebelling without really wanting it.0
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NoIdea101NoIdea wrote: »ObiWanJacoby_ wrote: »How long have you been dieting for and how much weight have you lost? When you diet for a extended period of time your bodies metabolism will slow down as it believes it's beginning to go into starvation mode. It no longer burns as many calories at rest than it did before. So introducing a re-feed day is common and recommend if you've lost a lot of weight, or having been dieting for a extended period of time. This causes us to have a heightened want and extreme cravings for food. So giving your body more carbs one day will help your body realize that what you're doing on is in fact on purpose and not because you are starving.
ONE DAY the god damn 'starvation mode' myth will die.
And OP, i totally get what you mean about 'wanting to want something'. It is hard to explain. It's almost disappointing when you look at a cookie and think 'i would have devoured you in a second two months ago. Now the sight of you doesn't do anything for me'.
It's like waking up one morning and suddenly realizing that your partner of 10 years is actually the most boring and unattractive person in the world and having no idea why you have suddenly come to that realization. That's the only way i can think of describing it
The closest I've come to experiencing this is when I've made certain recipes and been so excited about them. They were delicious and helped me stay within my calorie goals. Fast forward a few months and just nope. I want something else, even if I wind up in a new rut eating the same foods over and over again.
When I don't want sweets and deserts I usually just go with it. That's one problem that has a beautiful way of resolving itself (in my experience) without external intervention. I have a sweet tooth so those things usually find their way back to my plate eventually
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I know what you mean. It's like my brain goes "hey, we're doing great! but shouldn't we have wanted to eat a packet of cookies by now? surely this whole being satisfied on food within my calories has gotten old by now..."0
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If it tastes bad, I won't eat it. So, no. I never want to eat something bad.0
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I actually don't crave anything bad. But I don't always control what we are having for dinner so I'd it's pizza I'll measure out a small slice.0
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Thank you, you understand what I mean! I need to stop that brain tantrum in its tracks!I understand what the OP means. I have had those moments of not wanting something in particular, but just wanting something. It's the wanting. It's why I told her that her brain is bored and tantruming...and to tell it to go to its room.
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Dieting since Jan, lost 35 lbs. Today is my refeed day because I WANT a burger.ObiWanJacoby_ wrote: »How long have you been dieting for and how much weight have you lost? When you diet for a extended period of time your bodies metabolism will slow down as it believes it's beginning to go into starvation mode. It no longer burns as many calories at rest than it did before. So introducing a re-feed day is common and recommend if you've lost a lot of weight, or having been dieting for a extended period of time. This causes us to have a heightened want and extreme cravings for food. So giving your body more carbs one day will help your body realize that what you're doing on is in fact on purpose and not because you are starving.
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"Look at me! I can easily keep within my calorie goals since I don't crave crap like you fatties. I'm so great". But not stated nearly as obnoxiously. Also I have exaggerated a bit (okay a lot) so you get the point.NiqueKristan wrote: »
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Thank you for getting me! I have had a huge problem with binge eating as well. Do you? If so, what're your coping mechanisms?Cait_Sidhe wrote: »I think I get this, it's sort of binge disorder thinking. You want to do something bad just because it's bad. You don't really want a cookie, you just want it because you're not supposed to have it. If this is the case, a lot of people are missing the point. And are lucky to have never experienced this.
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Lol yes you get what I mean. The struggle is real. I must resist.Alatariel75 wrote: »I know what you mean. It's like my brain goes "hey, we're doing great! but shouldn't we have wanted to eat a packet of cookies by now? surely this whole being satisfied on food within my calories has gotten old by now..."
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NiqueKristan wrote: »Going through the "wanting to want cookies".... And other junk. Not hungry, eating healthy and I'm not craving anything, but I want to want something bad! Why?
If you're not craving anything, what's the issue? Perhaps that feeling is not about food at all.
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Congrats on quitting smoking!!! It's like our brains are trying to sabotage us, and tempt us to go back to our old ways.Karen_libert wrote: »I get what you mean OP. I gave up smoking a long time ago but I still want to want a cigarette. I've even tried to have one but it just made me sick. The human mind is a beautiful and frightening thing!
Sometimes I want to want cake. Sometimes I even eat it when I don't want it because I feel I should crave it.
I think it's a sign we are doing well. We are not restricting ourselves and we are in control and not feeling deprived. Its in the human conditioning to feel that we should miss something when its gone, even if that thing wasn't good for us and having it gone is better for us.
Score 1 for the brain and 0 for the logic!
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You GET ME!!!!!NoIdea101NoIdea wrote: »ObiWanJacoby_ wrote: »How long have you been dieting for and how much weight have you lost? When you diet for a extended period of time your bodies metabolism will slow down as it believes it's beginning to go into starvation mode. It no longer burns as many calories at rest than it did before. So introducing a re-feed day is common and recommend if you've lost a lot of weight, or having been dieting for a extended period of time. This causes us to have a heightened want and extreme cravings for food. So giving your body more carbs one day will help your body realize that what you're doing on is in fact on purpose and not because you are starving.
ONE DAY the god damn 'starvation mode' myth will die.
And OP, i totally get what you mean about 'wanting to want something'. It is hard to explain. It's almost disappointing when you look at a cookie and think 'i would have devoured you in a second two months ago. Now the sight of you doesn't do anything for me'.
It's like waking up one morning and suddenly realizing that your partner of 10 years is actually the most boring and unattractive person in the world and having no idea why you have suddenly come to that realization. That's the only way i can think of describing it
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"Look at me! I can easily keep within my calorie goals since I don't crave crap like you fatties. I'm so great". But not stated nearly as obnoxiously. Also I have exaggerated a bit (okay a lot) so you get the point.NiqueKristan wrote: »
The urban dictionary definitions are hilarious. :laugh: To be clear I don't necessarily think this is what you're doing
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=humblebrag0 -
Not what I meant at all
"Look at me! I can easily keep within my calorie goals since I don't crave crap like you fatties. I'm so great". But not stated nearly as obnoxiously. Also I have exaggerated a bit (okay a lot) so you get the point.NiqueKristan wrote: »
Just meant the cravings not there, but I feel I won't be happy or satisfied when I eat it. Forcing yourself to eat something you don't want for no reason other that emotional, is no brag at all.
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I've came to the conclusion after reading others opinions that it's purely emotional. Food has equaled happiness my entire life. Wasn't feeling too happy yesterday.arditarose wrote: »NiqueKristan wrote: »Going through the "wanting to want cookies".... And other junk. Not hungry, eating healthy and I'm not craving anything, but I want to want something bad! Why?
If you're not craving anything, what's the issue? Perhaps that feeling is not about food at all.
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NiqueKristan wrote: »
I've came to the conclusion after reading others opinions that it's purely emotional. Food has equaled happiness my entire life. Wasn't feeling to happy yesterday.arditarose wrote: »NiqueKristan wrote: »Going through the "wanting to want cookies".... And other junk. Not hungry, eating healthy and I'm not craving anything, but I want to want something bad! Why?
If you're not craving anything, what's the issue? Perhaps that feeling is not about food at all.
Yeah, makes sense. Interesting how the mind and body works.
I hope you're in the mood for a cookie soon 0 -
"Look at me! I can easily keep within my calorie goals since I don't crave crap like you fatties. I'm so great". But not stated nearly as obnoxiously. Also I have exaggerated a bit (okay a lot) so you get the point.NiqueKristan wrote: »
The urban dictionary definitions are hilarious. :laugh: To be clear I don't necessarily think this is what you're doing
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=humblebrag[/quote
Lol that is pretty funny0 -
arditarose wrote: »NiqueKristan wrote: »
I've came to the conclusion after reading others opinions that it's purely emotional. Food has equaled happiness my entire life. Wasn't feeling to happy yesterday.arditarose wrote: »NiqueKristan wrote: »Going through the "wanting to want cookies".... And other junk. Not hungry, eating healthy and I'm not craving anything, but I want to want something bad! Why?
If you're not craving anything, what's the issue? Perhaps that feeling is not about food at all.
Yeah, makes sense. Interesting how the mind and body works.
I hope you're in the mood for a cookie soon0 -
Unless it's a 400 calorie think that requires more planning to fit in, I eat what I want every day. Just got to practice moderation to make it fit.0
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