2nd day without eating meat

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  • Ryanstwin
    Ryanstwin Posts: 70 Member
    @bigblondewolf I have no intentions of picking fights with strangers on forums just making my points. I appreciate your feedback
  • randomtai
    randomtai Posts: 9,003 Member
    Ryanstwin wrote: »
    And you brought up free lee before I did so who's example was it? I never said her name she isn't the only you tuber who eats 30 plus bananas

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  • bigblondewolf
    bigblondewolf Posts: 268 Member
    @Ryanstwin Then I don't understand why you even feel the need to defend your choice to a bunch of internet strangers. If you didn't like the advice we were giving, then walk away. It's your own damn body, do what you want with it.
  • randomtai
    randomtai Posts: 9,003 Member
    bigblondewolf wrote: »
    @Ryanstwin Then I don't understand why you even feel the need to defend your choice to a bunch of internet strangers. If you didn't like the advice we were giving, then walk away. It's your own damn body, do what you want with it.

    How else will he feel superior about his dietary choices??
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    edited May 2015
    Ryanstwin wrote: »
    Mike Rashid power bodybuilder was a vegan for a good part of his adult life Doesn't look like he ever had any problems getting an adequate amount of protein without meat ....2xaivigmcf6s.jpg

    That is the only point we are trying to make, is to pay attention to protein.

    That said, this guy is probably also on gear. Apples to oranges
  • bigblondewolf
    bigblondewolf Posts: 268 Member
    randomtai wrote: »
    bigblondewolf wrote: »
    @Ryanstwin Then I don't understand why you even feel the need to defend your choice to a bunch of internet strangers. If you didn't like the advice we were giving, then walk away. It's your own damn body, do what you want with it.

    How else will he feel superior about his dietary choices??

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  • tlharin
    tlharin Posts: 143 Member
    Wow, guys, this is kind of hostile to the OP, who really just wanted some support. @Ryanstwin, you're welcome to check out the "Vegetarians & Vegans" group and post in our forums about weight training--positive you'll get some helpful feedback.
  • Ryanstwin
    Ryanstwin Posts: 70 Member
    @randomtai thanks for the feedback have a wonderful day
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    tlharin wrote: »
    Wow, guys, this is kind of hostile to the OP, who really just wanted some support. @Ryanstwin, you're welcome to check out the "Vegetarians & Vegans" group and post in our forums about weight training--positive you'll get some helpful feedback.

    Hostile? Really? Well, that's what we get for expressing concern, I guess.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    edited May 2015
    amberjo1986 wrote: »
    Lots of armchair nutritionists in here.....

    Lulz...

    Anyway....Posters come in and advise that you don't need cut meat in order to hit goals, but if you are make sure to supplement your protein intake.

    OP and a few others take offence somewhere in the make sure to supplement your protein recommendation.

    Did I cliff's that about right?
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    tlharin wrote: »
    Wow, guys, this is kind of hostile to the OP, who really just wanted some support. @Ryanstwin, you're welcome to check out the "Vegetarians & Vegans" group and post in our forums about weight training--positive you'll get some helpful feedback.

    Were you going to include the OP's "hostility" shown while answering questions as well or is this just a one way street?
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  • Ryanstwin
    Ryanstwin Posts: 70 Member
    @hollydubs85 I guess I picked the wrong forum to mention not eating meat lol . I guess I know how you tubers feel when they get trolled
  • Ryanstwin
    Ryanstwin Posts: 70 Member
    Ryanstwin wrote: »
    @hollydubs85 I guess I picked the wrong forum to mention not eating meat lol . I guess I know how you tubers feel when they get trolled

    Oops meant for @tlharin
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    Ryanstwin wrote: »
    @hollydubs85 I guess I picked the wrong forum to mention not eating meat lol . I guess I know how you tubers feel when they get trolled

    No one has trolled you or been "mean", We have been all saying the same thing. In order to hit your weight loss/fitness goal you don't need to cut meat, but if you do (and you came late with a different reason for doing so) just make sure you get enough protein.

    No one thinks you need to eat meat, just watch your macros.
  • tlharin
    tlharin Posts: 143 Member
    Guess so :) best of luck though, @Ryanstwin ! And stay swole, y'all ;) (ending notifications for thread)
  • jpaulie
    jpaulie Posts: 917 Member
    definitely I eat more meat when training, specifically bulking. If you are trying to gain lean body mass/strength don't worry about it. Enjoy it. If you are cutting then you might have to cut out some short ribs for a leaner cut. Figure out what you want to do. But meat fat does not = tummy fat
  • Ryanstwin
    Ryanstwin Posts: 70 Member
    tlharin wrote: »
    Guess so :) best of luck though, @Ryanstwin ! And stay swole, y'all ;) (ending notifications for thread)

    Good idea thanks for the input everyone
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    Ryanstwin wrote: »
    @hollydubs85 I guess I picked the wrong forum to mention not eating meat lol . I guess I know how you tubers feel when they get trolled

    Because people just advised you that cutting meat isn't necessary to meet your goal, but if you are to make sure you supplement your protein?

    If you think people are "trolling" you, I don't think you quite understand what it means.
  • SuggaD
    SuggaD Posts: 1,369 Member
    Not a good reason to give up meat, imo, because meat doesn't cause belly fat.
  • Ryanstwin
    Ryanstwin Posts: 70 Member
    jpaulie wrote: »
    definitely I eat more meat when training, specifically bulking. If you are trying to gain lean body mass/strength don't worry about it. Enjoy it. If you are cutting then you might have to cut out some short ribs for a leaner cut. Figure out what you want to do. But meat fat does not = tummy fat

    Thanks for the advice my man
  • Ryanstwin
    Ryanstwin Posts: 70 Member
    @RGv2 thanks for the feedback
  • 365andstillalive
    365andstillalive Posts: 663 Member
    Can you build a day in your diary where you get your goal of 178gs of protein?

    I mean this in the nicest way, I'm just curious how. I struggle to hit my own protein goals, and I'm eating lean meat, so I really want to see how to max out the protein.

    I will also happily take PMs from the vegan/vegetarian commentators here with a similar description of how to hit a goal like that.
  • Emilia777
    Emilia777 Posts: 978 Member
    edited May 2015
    Ryanstwin wrote: »
    @Emillia77 not receptive just because I am not. Replying to every single comment ??

    Your sentence doesn’t make sense, but I think I get it. I only meant that you seemed to ignore the particular comment questioning your characterization of a high-rep lifting routine as “heavy”, and appeared to endorse the banana diet thing.

    What I wanted to get at is that you might be better served by a low-rep high-weight program. I’d recommend you look into it. Then again, you didn’t really ask for advice, so feel free to ignore this.

    You can eat whatever, but I’d suggest you make sure you hit your macros. Best of luck.
  • Ryanstwin
    Ryanstwin Posts: 70 Member
    365andstillalive wrote: »
    Can you build a day in your diary where you get your goal of 178gs of protein?

    I mean this in the nicest way, I'm just curious how. I struggle to hit my own protein goals, and I'm eating lean meat, so I really want to see how to max out the protein.

    I will also happily take PMs from the vegan/vegetarian commentators here with a similar description of how to hit a goal like that.

    I've just started yesterday I didn't hit my protein number but no sweat. I'm sure I will be able to.. But besides meat you can have oats.. Rice.. Beans vegetables.. Cottage cheese etc etc
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    365andstillalive wrote: »
    Can you build a day in your diary where you get your goal of 178gs of protein?

    I mean this in the nicest way, I'm just curious how. I struggle to hit my own protein goals, and I'm eating lean meat, so I really want to see how to max out the protein.

    I will also happily take PMs from the vegan/vegetarian commentators here with a similar description of how to hit a goal like that.

    8000 grams of spinach should do it.
  • bigblondewolf
    bigblondewolf Posts: 268 Member
    Ryanstwin wrote: »
    365andstillalive wrote: »
    Can you build a day in your diary where you get your goal of 178gs of protein?

    I mean this in the nicest way, I'm just curious how. I struggle to hit my own protein goals, and I'm eating lean meat, so I really want to see how to max out the protein.

    I will also happily take PMs from the vegan/vegetarian commentators here with a similar description of how to hit a goal like that.

    I've just started yesterday I didn't hit my protein number but no sweat. I'm sure I will be able to.. But besides meat you can have oats.. Rice.. Beans vegetables.. Cottage cheese etc etc

    If you're just cutting down on red meat and still open to still including fish, tilapia and mahi mahi are both super high in protein (and taste fan-freaking-tastic). Do it up with some quinoa and black beans and you've got a protein packed meal without any red meat.
  • Queenmunchy
    Queenmunchy Posts: 3,380 Member
    BFDeal wrote: »
    I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals. I'm a vegetarian because I hate plants.

    @BFDeal, in high school/college I was a vegetarian. I often said "I hate animals so much I won't even eat them." (I really don't like animals...)
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    edited May 2015
    Not sure how eliminating meat is going to help you get stronger and lean out and lose belly fat...most people trying to lean out and get stronger do the exact opposite.

    IMO, there's nothing wrong with going vegetarian, but you should have better reasons for doing so.
  • dkjaer
    dkjaer Posts: 9 Member
    edited May 2015
    I'm not weight training but I am a runner. In 10 days I'm doing my fourth marathon. The last time I had meat or dairy was November 2013. In fact, my wife and two teenage daughters are also vegans. Both of my daughters are competative swimmers (syncro and racing) who weight train year-round and all of us competed in triathlons last year. The oldest recently had a flu shot and when she rolled up her sleeve the nurse actually told her "Girl, you are ripped. Whatever you're doing, keep doing it.", lol.

    The only time I seek any extra protein is during marathon training. Even then, it is just a glass of Hammer Vegan Protein after medium runs and two after long runs. The biggest advantage of a plant-based diet that I have found is fast recovery. Listen to interviews with just about any vegan athlete and you likely will hear the same answer. I was actually shocked the first time I started training for a marathon after eliminating animal-based food.

    An easy way to get all of the essential amino acids at once is with a combination of grains and legumes. They actually don't have to be consumed in the same meal. A peanut butter sandwich has 14g of complete protein. Beans and rice is another good combination. Last night we had vegetables with peanut sauce on brown rice. There are a lot more good sources like quinoa and seitan but I honestly don't pay that much attention to it.

    If you haven't yet, check out what guys like Patrik Baboumian, Tim Shieff and Frank Medrano are doing on a vegan diet. You might also find some helpful info at www.nomeatathlete.com, www.plantbuilt.com (vegan bodybuilders) or www.fuelforthefighter.com (vegan UFC fighters).
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