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PeachyPlum wrote: »I'm glad to hear that people find this thread helpful! Hopefully at some point this thread and the calorie counting 101 thread will be stickies again.
If we had a poll feature, I'd vote for it!
I can't believe they replaced a useful, step by step thread with one full of disjointed nuggets like "take the stairs." I mean, what the actual *kitten*?
Don't forget:
cut out bread and pasta
drink lots and lots of water
eat an apple every day
don't eat fruit
don't eat anything white
switch to diet soda
don't drink diet soda
eat breakfast
skip breakfast
eat snacks
don't snack
avoid calorie dense foods like peanut butter
eat low calorie treats like peanut butter
go to bed hungry
Yeah, I didn't get that far... I got to post #3 and thought "*kitten*, this is worthless."
I'm even sadder now that I know it's full of people's *kitten*, contradicting opinions. How is that helpful to a newbie? If I started off with that thread, I'd get overwhelmed and confused, leave, and never come back.0 -
Yeah, the "Tip" thread could possibly be helpful if they screened what posts get put in it. It's just random stuff, most being not even true or helpful. Weird.0
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This thread: Begins with a solid OP full of vital, step by step info and is then monitored by the OP who absolutely knows her stuff and understands how to handle questions and detracting posts, resulting in a brilliant thread which consistently offers sage advice without all the conflicting gobbledygook you find in so many other threads.
The new sticky: Begins with a question about tips and tricks and is then answered by several conflicting and ill-informed posts, resulting in a thread which could easily confuse new members and prove to be more confounding than it is helpful.
The rationale for the switch: bgjgjkvtdsvbjujuytrewwqasdcfxrsdgjju0 -
You want to lose belly fat and have a nice flat toned mid section? We see that a lot on this site. Hell, that was my goal for my birthday last year. We all want to be able to take our shirt off at the pool or beach and look great, but how do we do it?
1. Slight calorie deficit. Eating 800 calories and killing yourself in the gym is not going to get you there any faster. You need to fuel your body appropriately. I suggest the TDEE-20% method. www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc (If you have questions please feel free to ask them here). Make sure to weigh everything you eat! Guessing could put you well over your calories.
2. Strength training. If you want that toned mid section look you have to put some muscle there. If you just want a nice flat stomach muscle will still help it look tight. You can begin with Strong Lifts, a hypertrophy routine or a strength program from bodybuilding.com (free!). One that includes compound lifts like deadlift, squat, bench press and pull ups will help. Work on increasing the amount of weight you use. When the weight gets heavier you engage your core more and it builds the muscle.
3. Muscle insurance. There are a variety of studies done on the amount of protein the body needs. I like to think of higher protein as muscle insurance. My suggestion is about 1gram of protein per pound of lean mass. Make sure to get fat in your diet to help joints and metabolic processes. Make sure to get carbs in your diet to fuel workouts.
4. Cardio. I like cardio once or twice a week for 30 minutes. It's good for the heart and lungs. It doesn't add much to the calorie burn for the week, but it helps even things out in case you haven't been completely accurate weighing food.
5. Patience! It is not going to happen overnight. If you stick with it you could lose around 1% body fat a month. We aren't going to be perfect all the time. Enjoy birthdays and holidays. It is life and things will happen. Don't stress, learn to love the process.
FINALLY: Losing fat is like trying to dry out a sponge. You can't dry a corner while the rest of it is still wet. You won't magically lose belly fat or thigh fat or any other fat. It will come off where it wants to. Keep working at it! It is possible!
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Carlos_421 wrote: »This thread: Begins with a solid OP full of vital, step by step info and is then monitored by the OP who absolutely knows her stuff and understands how to handle questions and detracting posts, resulting in a brilliant thread which consistently offers sage advice without all the conflicting gobbledygook you find in so many other threads.
The new sticky: Begins with a question about tips and tricks and is then answered by several conflicting and ill-informed posts, resulting in a thread which could easily confuse new members and prove to be more confounding than it is helpful.
The rationale for the switch: bgjgjkvtdsvbjujuytrewwqasdcfxrsdgjju
I agree. If I was starting this journey and took that new stickied post as expert, I would be so confused, I would quit after the first month. How could anyone follow all those random recommendations?0 -
Sigh...when I came back to MFP 3 months ago it was threads like this one that gave me hope and set me on the right path finally. There was previously so many conflicting, nonsense threads out there. I never knew who to believe but once I came back and saw threads like this one I thought ok! MFP has got it together now and there are some credible sources here to help sort through all of the convoluted nonsense. I feel sorry for the newbies. They will be going in circles once again just like I did...thanks again usmcmp0
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I love this post!
I do have a question, I'm lifting 2-3 times a week at home (following SL 5x5) but having no squat rack, I'm doing goblet/ front squats, and struggling with the OHP. Also some lighter cardio and circuits with dumbbells while working on form.
I started shifting over to weights about 8 weeks ago, so don't expect too much of a difference. But, I've lost about 2 inches in my waist and I swear it is looking worse (inner thighs are the same- lost an inch, getting a softer layer of fat. I wanted to get down to about 120-123 , no lower, and then re-comp, but I'm around 125-126 now. Started at 134 or so in March.
All of this to ask, if this is a normal progression, to get softer before it goes? I'm at a 250 cal deficit, and the cardio is for buffer in case I'm off on calories, and I'm just more hungry. Still tweaking the macros. Honestly I'd be okay if the weight is slow to come off or I just leaned out, I'm aiming for loss of fat. Any advice is appreciated.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »This thread: Begins with a solid OP full of vital, step by step info and is then monitored by the OP who absolutely knows her stuff and understands how to handle questions and detracting posts, resulting in a brilliant thread which consistently offers sage advice without all the conflicting gobbledygook you find in so many other threads.
The new sticky: Begins with a question about tips and tricks and is then answered by several conflicting and ill-informed posts, resulting in a thread which could easily confuse new members and prove to be more confounding than it is helpful.
The rationale for the switch: bgjgjkvtdsvbjujuytrewwqasdcfxrsdgjju
*applause*
It is a decision with no possible merit ...stickies should be generally useful points of information that noobs can be directed to when they ask the same question
And the ridiculous fluffy phrase "super helpful" fills my head with so much snark I may well explode
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Why is this not a sticky any more? Not to make place for the tips and tricks thread?!0
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" Muscle insurance. There are a variety of studies done on the amount of protein the body needs. I like to think of higher protein as muscle insurance. My suggestion is about 1gram of protein per pound of lean mass. Make sure to get fat in your diet to help joints and metabolic processes. Make sure to get carbs in your diet to fuel workouts."
Still not clear on this. How do I figure out what my lean mass is?0 -
Maybe it's like people that say to switch exercise or eating times to "confuse your body" or "trick it".Wiseandcurious wrote: »Why is this not a sticky any more? Not to make place for the tips and tricks thread?!
Okay, so since we are all agreement as to the questionable decision regarding this change, has anyone contacted the moderators about it? If so, I missed it. Just curious.0 -
Maybe it's like people that say to switch exercise or eating times to "confuse your body" or "trick it".Wiseandcurious wrote: »Why is this not a sticky any more? Not to make place for the tips and tricks thread?!
Okay, so since we are all agreement as to the questionable decision regarding this change, has anyone contacted the moderators about it? If so, I missed it. Just curious.
A moderator responded to this post on the page before this.0 -
It's safe to say a few of us have voiced our opinion here.0
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Short of getting a DEXA scan, bodpod measurement, or hydro-static weighing? I'd suggest using a tape measure and a scale to estimate it using a calculator like" Muscle insurance. There are a variety of studies done on the amount of protein the body needs. I like to think of higher protein as muscle insurance. My suggestion is about 1gram of protein per pound of lean mass. Make sure to get fat in your diet to help joints and metabolic processes. Make sure to get carbs in your diet to fuel workouts."
Still not clear on this. How do I figure out what my lean mass is?
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