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My mom Does not belive that a calorie deficit is for weight loss and carbs only make you fat

megablackk1d

My mom still believes that a calorie deficit is not the way to weight loss, and believes carbs are the only reason for gaining weight.. She claimed that at one point she tried the "Calorie Deficit" with carbs and still gained, but she never ways her food or does not even know her total daily energy expenditure, and was eating more than she thought she was. Can anyone link me to a scientific article with absolute proof of the calorie deficit is the way for fat/weight loss PLEASE! Nobody listens to me around here...

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ACyclingAdmin

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/

kickassbarbie

Have you shown her the success section of this site?

megablackk1d

kickassbarbie wrote: »

Have you shown her the success section of this site?

I tried, but she won't believe anything I say. She won't even look at any of it.

Sued0nim

She is stuck in the media / marketing scam of weight loss scams

Nothing you say will change her mind

It's like a religion ...it needs no proof, it just is based on faith

megablackk1d

thecyclingadmin wrote: »

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/

She wouldn't even look at that bro, I just tried

Sued0nim

Also you're her kid...you've probably spent the last few years treating her like an idiot whilst thinking that you know it all

She is not going to listen to you

Why does it matter?

megablackk1d

rabbitjb wrote: »

She is stuck in the media / marketing scam of weight loss scams

Nothing you say will change her mind

It's like a religion ...it needs no proof, it just is based on faith

I think you are right I can't get through to her

JPW1990

Show her this:

I've been extreme low carb for 15 years, usually below 30g/day, never above 50g. If I eat too many calories, I gain weight, which is why I am here. If I eat at a deficit, I lose weight. If I eat the correct number of calories, I maintain, which I did for 13 years. Carbs are not magic unicorn poop that make fat appear or disappear.

2snakeswoman

If she won't even look, there's no way to prove it. Unfortunately, no matter what you believe, on the Internet you can find plenty of support for it. So you two could get into a "read this!" war, but nobody will win.

meganjcallaghan

megablackk1d wrote: »

thecyclingadmin wrote: »

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/

She wouldn't even look at that bro, I just tried

then nothing you do will help until she decides for herself to stop leaning on her fantasies for an excuse.

devil_in_a_blue_dress

Why change her mind?

Let her wonder why she never loses weight.

Let her get carb wrath.

Eventually she'll learn or not. Won't affect you any.

megablackk1d

I have tried everything from google she won't believe any of it, she keeps saying she wants something from a scholar, doctor, or actual scientific evidence. She thinks I have a biased mind off of what Ive read and watched from the internet.

MommyL2015

Well, when you reach your goals, you can be her proof.

My mom is the same way & I just let her do her thing and I just shut up, otherwise we just argue.

jnv7594

My mom is the same way...stuck in the old way of thinking. Let it be what it is, and do your own thing. You will never change her mind.

Sued0nim

He's a teen boy I reckon, he's building muscle from what I can see ...prime time

She's his mom, the more he yaks at her the less she will listen

Just say "well if it works for you mom" and carry on carrying on

megablackk1d

rabbitjb wrote: »

He's a teen boy I reckon, he's building muscle from what I can see ...prime time

She's his mom, the more he yaks at her the less she will listen

Just say "well if it works for you mom" and carry on carrying on

I was a teen about 28 days ago just turned 20 ohhh how I miss my teenage years haha thanks for your help

Ninkyou

I'm not sure why this all matters? She's an individual. Let her make her own decisions/beliefs and you make yours. If she asks for help, then offer your knowledge, otherwise, lead by example. She's an adult. If she's determined and serious about weight loss, she'll find out what she needs to know.

Sued0nim

I'm 48 (probably older than your mom)

I lost 53 lbs in 9 months, 3 months at maintenance ...my diet is 50-60% carbs (white toast, white rice, crisps, potatoes...yum) but I hit minimum protein and fats macros first and eat a lot of veg

I did low carb 3 or 4 times in the last 30 years, each time I lost quickly (water weight) and put back on just as quickly, and more so (crash and burn from restriction)

I lift heavy and I look feckin' awesome

Desert_Breeze

Are you still living at home? Do you agree on everything with your mom? Have you both learned to respect each other enough to allow each other to 'respectfully agree to disagree' on any topics? At 20, you can set your own boundaries. Sure, if she's nagging or meddlesome, that might be an issue....it's things like this that allow young adults to realize when it's time to leave the nest, if they haven't already. Let her live her life, and you live yours. That means though you shouldn't expect her to cook food for you that you want. If you are old enough to set your own parameters and boundaries, you are old enough to buy and cook your own food, too.

I say just quit trying to change her life, and focus on your own. And use the above as guidelines for talking points with her if you want, because it's coming from a 63 year old grandma.

(who combines low carbs WITH calorie counting.)

booksandchocolate12

To your mother, you will forever be 5 years old, and what would a 5 year old know about calorie deficits?

megablackk1d

rabbitjb wrote: »

I'm 48 (probably older than your mom)

I lost 53 lbs in 9 months, 3 months at maintenance ...my diet is 50-60% carbs (white toast, white rice, crisps, potatoes...yum) but I hit minimum protein and fats macros first and eat a lot of veg

I did low carb 3 or 4 times in the last 30 years, each time I lost quickly (water weight) and put back on just as quickly, and more so (crash and burn from restriction)

I lift heavy and I look feckin' awesome

Nice keep doing your thing

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meganjcallaghan

megablackk1d wrote: »

I have tried everything from google she won't believe any of it, she keeps saying she wants something from a scholar, doctor, or actual scientific evidence. She thinks I have a biased mind off of what Ive read and watched from the internet.

The American Journal of Medicine database will have properly conducted scientific peer reviewed studies, but she'd actually have to care enough to purchase access to the related articles, such as "Caloric intake, not carbohydrate or fat consumption, determines weight loss" by Richard Fleming

megablackk1d

MrM27 wrote: »

How does what she believes affect you?

it doesn't just trying to help her

megablackk1d

sunnycoconut wrote: »

Are you still living at home? Do you agree on everything with your mom? Have you both learned to respect each other enough to allow each other to 'respectfully agree to disagree' on any topics? At 20, you can set your own boundaries. Sure, if she's nagging or meddlesome, that might be an issue....it's things like this that allow young adults to realize when it's time to leave the nest, if they haven't already. Let her live her life, and you live yours. That means though you shouldn't expect her to cook food for you that you want. If you are old enough to set your own parameters and boundaries, you are old enough to buy and cook your own food, too.

I say just quit trying to change her life, and focus on your own. And use the above as guidelines for talking points with her if you want, because it's coming from a 63 year old grandma. (who combines low carbs WITH calorie counting.)

I do buy and cook my own food, and no we respect each other I love my mama haha

megablackk1d

meganjcallaghan wrote: »

megablackk1d wrote: »

I have tried everything from google she won't believe any of it, she keeps saying she wants something from a scholar, doctor, or actual scientific evidence. She thinks I have a biased mind off of what Ive read and watched from the internet.

The American Journal of Medicine database will have properly conducted scientific peer reviewed studies, but she'd actually have to care enough to purchase access to the related articles, such as "Caloric intake, not carbohydrate or fat consumption, determines weight loss" by Richard Fleming

Thanks ill look it up

Sued0nim

megablackk1d wrote: »

rabbitjb wrote: »

I'm 48 (probably older than your mom)

I lost 53 lbs in 9 months, 3 months at maintenance ...my diet is 50-60% carbs (white toast, white rice, crisps, potatoes...yum) but I hit minimum protein and fats macros first and eat a lot of veg

I did low carb 3 or 4 times in the last 30 years, each time I lost quickly (water weight) and put back on just as quickly, and more so (crash and burn from restriction)

I lift heavy and I look feckin' awesome

Nice keep doing your thing

Only shared so you can show her ...but it's up to her what she does ...it's her life and your is yours

Nice that you love your mom but don't try to live her life for her, she's not dumb, she just has her own ideas ...if she wants to find a better way she will

darrensurrey

kickassbarbie wrote: »

Have you shown her the success section of this site?

A picture is worth a thousand words, and here's a lot of pictures: https://www.pinterest.com/darrensurrey/mfp-success-stories/

darrensurrey

megablackk1d wrote: »

rabbitjb wrote: »

I'm 48 (probably older than your mom)

I lost 53 lbs in 9 months, 3 months at maintenance ...my diet is 50-60% carbs (white toast, white rice, crisps, potatoes...yum) but I hit minimum protein and fats macros first and eat a lot of veg

I did low carb 3 or 4 times in the last 30 years, each time I lost quickly (water weight) and put back on just as quickly, and more so (crash and burn from restriction)

I lift heavy and I look feckin' awesome

Nice keep doing your thing

Check out this MFPer: http://www.wimble.com/obesity-to-omg-one-womans-journey/

In her 50s!

aisforamyaz

The mayo clinic is pretty official, I think:

http://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/its-complicated-calories-and-other-factors-affect-weight-loss/