Should I eliminate aspartame from my life? My Doctor says yes!

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  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
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    beneita wrote: »
    Artificial sugar is poison to our bodies....proven link to Dementia and other brain function , the list goes on... study up!

    It's amazing how that "proven link" doesn't appear in scientific literature.
  • galgenstrick
    galgenstrick Posts: 2,086 Member
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    beneita wrote: »
    Artificial sugar is poison to our bodies....proven link to Dementia and other brain function , the list goes on... study up!

    Because you heard it on the news? And we wonder why people get brainwashed with religion and cults...
  • smantha32
    smantha32 Posts: 6,990 Member
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    I don't consume it anymore because I react to it. I have no idea if it slows weight loss though.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
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    beneita wrote: »
    Artificial sugar is poison to our bodies....proven link to Dementia and other brain function , the list goes on... study up!
    What about the natural ones like Stevia? What common principle do they all share, since there are several? What is the causative mechanism, beyond any kind of correlation the "proven link" might show. What was the methodology of the "proven link"? What was their number of subjects and their p-value? Was the study designed to look specifically at causes of dementia, or did the study look at people who use artificial sweetners and p-value farm the heck out of them?
  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
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    beneita wrote: »
    Artificial sugar is poison to our bodies....proven link to Dementia and other brain function , the list goes on... study up!

    lol wow strong post :trollface:
  • Aemely
    Aemely Posts: 694 Member
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    earlnabby wrote: »
    Hello Everyone!
    I just got back from seeing my cardiologist with a glowing report that I am praising the Lord for giving me my health back. During our conversation, my Doctor noted that I had lost weight. I told her that I had been on Nutri System...and that I really LOVE the frozen food plan! She said that Nutri System was a good way to lose weight...but that I needed to watch the labels to make sure that there were no Aspartame in the ingredients. She went on to say that Aspartame usage will result in very slow weight loss...or NONE at all...and that I should stop the Diet Coke as it was full of Aspartame. Right then and there...I swore off "pop" for ever!

    But when I got home...I noticed that almost all the diet foods and drinks have Aspartame in them. Now I am wondering what I am going to eat. And I need a second opinion. Any help would be so appreciated! Roland

    Don't take nutrition advice from a cardiologist just like you shouldn't take heart advice from a nutritionist.

    This ^ ^

    As far as aspartame (and other sugar substitutes) goes, if it bothers you or you are sensitive to it, you should limit or avoid it. Otherwise, go ahead (but I do believe in moderation in all things, including sugar substitutes). There is no credible evidence that it is harmful to the general public or inhibits weight loss.

    +1 for common sense!

    I cut back on diet soda b/c it makes me feel jittery and sick to my stomach, but if you don't have any ill effects, ignore your cardiologist on this bogus advice. I still add fake sugar (Splenda, Nutrasweet, Equal) to my coffee and that neither makes me feel bad nor does it affect my ability to lose weight.

    That being said, eating foods w/ fewer, simpler ingredients can't be a bad thing. I try to look at labels for this... If you must use prepared meals b/c you can't cook or can't portion effectively, there are some good prepared foods out there such as Amy's (link).
  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
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    sixxpoint wrote: »
    shell1005 wrote: »
    sixxpoint wrote: »

    Stevia is the same sort of processed food, and it is possibly even worse than them all!!

    SURE....because you say so.

    No, because science does.

    Sorry to make an example of your post, and sorry if I'm wrong.... but you just dropped "because science".

    In a previous thread that you started, you said that you were a chef.

    Instead of assuming, I'm going to ask... are you a chef with a PhD or MD, or even a BSc. Not that that is required in life, but.... I'm hoping that it is required for dropping "because science".

    lol I'm guessing you have credentials yourself?
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
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    sixxpoint wrote: »
    shell1005 wrote: »
    sixxpoint wrote: »

    Stevia is the same sort of processed food, and it is possibly even worse than them all!!

    SURE....because you say so.

    No, because science does.

    Sorry to make an example of your post, and sorry if I'm wrong.... but you just dropped "because science".

    In a previous thread that you started, you said that you were a chef.

    Instead of assuming, I'm going to ask... are you a chef with a PhD or MD, or even a BSc. Not that that is required in life, but.... I'm hoping that it is required for dropping "because science".

    What is with everyone's obsession with credentials on this forum?

    You don't need a PhD to know the fundamentals of nutrition.
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
    edited May 2015
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    senecarr wrote: »
    What about the natural ones like Stevia?

    Stevia is implicated in the same problems. And no artificial sweetener is natural. One of the biggest jokes in the supplement industry is tricking people into thinking stevia is natural.

    If you can eat stevia, you may as well consume sucralose or aspartame. Stevia may even be more dangerous if you want to get technical (for both genders, affects on sexual organs, plasma testosterone levels, fertility, etc).

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    Am I overly worried? No. Im just pointing out that between stevia and something like sucralose, sucralose is potentially safer.

    OP, some links to show your doctor and calm your concerns:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24120730
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20689731
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17828671
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23891579
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17397982
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12180494
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23891579
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1894884
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25344624
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25091794
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19464334
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230009000786
  • halilozkal
    halilozkal Posts: 16 Member
    edited May 2015
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    According to a systematic review from Crit Rev Toxicol. 2007;37(8):629-727, you can just go ahead and consume it, for further reading see below!

    "Critical review of all carcinogenicity studies conducted on aspartame found no credible evidence that aspartame is carcinogenic. The data from the extensive investigations into the possibility of neurotoxic effects of aspartame, in general, do not support the hypothesis that aspartame in the human diet will affect nervous system function, learning or behavior. Epidemiological studies on aspartame include several case-control studies and one well-conducted prospective epidemiological study with a large cohort, in which the consumption of aspartame was measured. The studies provide no evidence to support an association between aspartame and cancer in any tissue. The weight of existing evidence is that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a nonnutritive sweetener."

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17828671

    Peace Out!
  • Hollywood_Porky
    Hollywood_Porky Posts: 491 Member
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    Dump that artificial sweetener and get Stevia as your replacement. Pepsi is dumping it out of their low-cal sodas. That time is coming. Soon it will be gone.
  • ElJefeChief
    ElJefeChief Posts: 650 Member
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    Hello Everyone!
    I just got back from seeing my cardiologist with a glowing report that I am praising the Lord for giving me my health back. During our conversation, my Doctor noted that I had lost weight. I told her that I had been on Nutri System...and that I really LOVE the frozen food plan! She said that Nutri System was a good way to lose weight...but that I needed to watch the labels to make sure that there were no Aspartame in the ingredients. She went on to say that Aspartame usage will result in very slow weight loss...or NONE at all...and that I should stop the Diet Coke as it was full of Aspartame. Right then and there...I swore off "pop" for ever!

    But when I got home...I noticed that almost all the diet foods and drinks have Aspartame in them. Now I am wondering what I am going to eat. And I need a second opinion. Any help would be so appreciated! Roland

    The theory is that use of an artificial sweetener leads to a spike in insulin production via classical conditioning. It's gotten some basis in rat studies, and the reasoning is sound, but we're not rats. I consume stevia, aspartame, and sucralose fairly regularly and I have no problem losing weight. As another poster basically said, artificial sweeteners can't violate the laws of thermodynamics.
  • Sutnak
    Sutnak Posts: 227 Member
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    I would eliminate that doctor from my life.
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
    edited May 2015
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    Dump that artificial sweetener and get Stevia as your replacement. Pepsi is dumping it out of their low-cal sodas. That time is coming. Soon it will be gone.

    Your opinion is not based in science; rather, popular marketing tactics of a commercial product. And if you're an avid reader of "Pepsi news"... chances are you aren't a reliable source for accurate nutritional information.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
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    Dump that artificial sweetener and get Stevia as your replacement. Pepsi is dumping it out of their low-cal sodas. That time is coming. Soon it will be gone.
    As others have said, Stevia is the one sugar alternative that actually has some legitimate health concerns.
    Saying Pepsi is dropping aspartame (they're switching to splenda / sucralose, not Stevia) is appeal to popularity. Also, they're foolish for doing it. The same people that are afraid of diet pepsi with aspartame will always be afraid of diet pepsi, even if it contains paleo vegan raw before 4 all natural organic non-gmo verfied unicorn farts as a sweetener.
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