Informal Poll: Mean People
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barbecuesauce wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Wiseandcurious wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »at no point...
given the number of times I've read through threads like this, I've largely deduced that this is a female thing...
Don't think so, I'm female and it never happened to me at any weight in my life. Never a mean comment from anyone. Either I'm lucky or I never notice it.
what I meant was, if you look at these threads...and there a gazillions of them...most are started by women and the vast majority of respondents are women. It seems to me that women are pretty brutal to other women...that's all I was saying.
guys on the other hand don't tend to comment on each others weight and what not...you might get your *kitten* kicked if you did.
My father has made more comments about my body than anyone else--in fact, in my OP, I bring that up first. I also had a boyfriend make ugly comments about my body when I was a skinny mini. What guys do among themselves, I don't know (although there have been a couple of comments in this thread, even on this page, about men making comments to other men). I'm sure there is empirical evidence that women make more comments to other women about their bodies-but to suggest that it's only a female-on-female issue erases a lot of the replies in this thread.
once again...i never claimed this was only a woman thing...only that it seems to be largely an issue that women deal with. yes, there are men who have to deal with it...but if you go through the gazillions of these threads you will find the vast majority of people who've had negatively thrown there way in RE to their weightloss to indeed be of the female persuasion....and very often, it is other females being *kitten*.
i never said that it never happens to guys...i never said that guys never comment on women...I'm not speaking in any absolutes...I said "largely" in my first post...I said "most" above. I'm not trying be "mean" or anything...I'm just pointing it out, namely because I find it somewhat interesting.
I personally find it interesting...generally speaking, guys get a lot less comments on their weight, etc than women...ergo, these seems largely like a female thing to me...how are you not comprehending what I'm saying here? do you not observe the same?
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cwolfman13 wrote: »barbecuesauce wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Wiseandcurious wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »at no point...
given the number of times I've read through threads like this, I've largely deduced that this is a female thing...
Don't think so, I'm female and it never happened to me at any weight in my life. Never a mean comment from anyone. Either I'm lucky or I never notice it.
what I meant was, if you look at these threads...and there a gazillions of them...most are started by women and the vast majority of respondents are women. It seems to me that women are pretty brutal to other women...that's all I was saying.
guys on the other hand don't tend to comment on each others weight and what not...you might get your *kitten* kicked if you did.
My father has made more comments about my body than anyone else--in fact, in my OP, I bring that up first. I also had a boyfriend make ugly comments about my body when I was a skinny mini. What guys do among themselves, I don't know (although there have been a couple of comments in this thread, even on this page, about men making comments to other men). I'm sure there is empirical evidence that women make more comments to other women about their bodies-but to suggest that it's only a female-on-female issue erases a lot of the replies in this thread.
once again...i never claimed this was only a woman thing...only that it seems to be largely an issue that women deal with. yes, there are men who have to deal with it...but if you go through the gazillions of these threads you will find the vast majority of people who've had negatively thrown there way in RE to their weightloss to indeed be of the female persuasion....and very often, it is other females being *kitten*.
i never said that it never happens to guys...i never said that guys never comment on women...I'm not speaking in any absolutes...I said "largely" in my first post...I said "most" above. I'm not trying be "mean" or anything...I'm just pointing it out, namely because I find it somewhat interesting.
I personally find it interesting...generally speaking, guys get a lot less comments on their weight, etc than women...ergo, these seems largely like a female thing to me...how are you not comprehending what I'm saying here? do you not observe the same?
I don't observe the same, no. I've met plenty of men who comment on women's bodies, and I'm reading replies from men who have experienced cruel comments from other males. I comprehend what you're saying, but it doesn't gibe with my experience. I didn't take it as "mean," but rather foreign to me. Forgive me if I neglected the qualifying words, there have been a lot of replies (can't believe this is 5 pages!! So much I could reply to but don't have the time).0 -
I am so sad for everyone who has shared their story. I just wanted to see at what stage in their weight loss people started hearing rude comments--and the amount of ugliness posters have experienced depresses me. I hope you all accomplish your fitness/weight goals.0
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Ugh, I may have lied about people not being mean to me. This thread is bringing up memories.
I used to play handball with a neighbor kid when I was in grammar school and he called me banana boobs.
Also, the only nice thing my mother could find to say to me was I had nice ankles. I mean really...wtf?!0 -
Ugh, I may have lied about people not being mean to me. This thread is bringing up memories.
I used to play handball with a neighbor kid when I was in grammar school and he called me banana boobs.
Also, the only nice thing my mother could find to say to me was I had nice ankles. I mean really...wtf?!
I got plenty of comments from the peanut gallery when I was overweight, but I've never experienced negative comments with weight loss. Everyone seems to be really happy for me actually and a lot of my friends and family come to me for fitness and nutrition advice...
sure, I've gotten the obligatory, "you don't need to lose anymore" comments from time to time when I was losing, but in my experience, people are just trying to pay compliment and tell you that you look good...it's far better than the alternative of, "yeah...fatty...you need to keep cuttin'.
I personally don't perceive comments like that as mean or unsupportive...never experienced that, so guess I have a hard time comprehending this, but I find it fascinating.0 -
I rarely heard negative comments.
Women friends had it much worse.
Right now I am so different looking some people I have not seen for a few years don't recognize me.
I had to get a new work ID.
It is weird. I know I am treated differently.
In January we had lots of new people in the gym. I made sure to be nice to people. And yes I speak to the women and say hello. It seems to be socially appreciated. I remember feeling awkward as a new guy.
Mean people suck.
I love my gym now. It is a workout and social time. Now joining a bike club.
The ever expanding fitness community!
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It's especially heartbreaking to hear about kids and adolescents who have had to hear mean comments/insults from their own parents... Very damaging.0
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To my face?
Never.
Not sure what people say behind my back.....don't really care much.....0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I personally find it interesting...generally speaking, guys get a lot less comments on their weight, etc than women...ergo, these seems largely like a female thing to me...how are you not comprehending what I'm saying here? do you not observe the same?
I wonder if that's true both positive and negative. For example, setting aside random anonymous jerks who will say mean things about the bodies of passers by (which I do think happens disproportionately to women), I wonder to what extent this relates to the fact that women are more likely to talk to others about their efforts to lose weight. I've had few people comment on my weight loss this time overall, since I didn't talk to that many people about it. Those that did were mostly either close to me (good friends, a co-worker I talk to a lot who also lost weight himself in the past) or from somewhat different cultural backgrounds where commenting might be more appropriate. When I lost the first time I talked about it a lot to a few co-workers who were actively attempting to lose, so I got more comments. My observation is most men don't really discuss efforts to diet with others (and when they do they get positive comments) and women are more likely to talk about this stuff.
Also, I do think there's a difference as to what's perceived as negative. Some comments obviously are, but many of those claimed as negative would not be taken as negative by me (similar to what rabbit said). I get the sense that women are more likely to analyze comments about their bodies and see intended insults in it while men are less likely even to notice or just assume that they are intended positively. Personally, since I consider my weight loss so positively and am in social circles where it still is strongly preferred to be thin vs. not (and where most people are average weight or less, especially when younger--overweight is not nearly so common as in the US as a whole), I tend to interpret any comment about my weight loss as positive (even "you don't have to lose any more") and I am confident I am interpreting it right, also.0 -
juliebowman4 wrote: »Not sure what people say behind my back.....don't really care much.....
QFT0 -
juliebowman4 wrote: »Not sure what people say behind my back.....don't really care much.....
QFT
Lol....what's QFT?
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I've lost nearly 100 pounds and haven't heard any comments like this.
The worst thing that anybody has said to me was that I look like a Barbie. It was a joke.0 -
juliebowman4 wrote: »juliebowman4 wrote: »Not sure what people say behind my back.....don't really care much.....
QFT
Lol....what's QFT?
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juliebowman4 wrote: »juliebowman4 wrote: »Not sure what people say behind my back.....don't really care much.....
QFT
Lol....what's QFT?
Ha. I worried that it might be quit f-ing talking
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Well, you can't please all of the people all of the time. I don't give a hill of beans what others say about my weight. Everyone has a right to their opinion. I just roll with the punches and go on with my program. Take in what positivity comes your way and shrug off any of the horse hocky. (-:0
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juliebowman4 wrote: »juliebowman4 wrote: »juliebowman4 wrote: »Not sure what people say behind my back.....don't really care much.....
QFT
Lol....what's QFT?
Ha. I worried that it might be quit f-ing talking
Laughsss :bigsmile:
That's STFU0 -
juliebowman4 wrote: »juliebowman4 wrote: »juliebowman4 wrote: »Not sure what people say behind my back.....don't really care much.....
QFT
Lol....what's QFT?
Ha. I worried that it might be quit f-ing talking
Laughsss :bigsmile:
That's STFU
Have to remember that one! Ah the dangers of acronyms: Quack-effing-tastic?0 -
I have been thin most of my life and have only gained the extra 15kgs I am carrying at the moment in the last 3 years. I used to be in a crowd where two of the women were very insecure and despised me for being thin when they were overweight. They didn't want to know me as a person and I had to try really hard with them - nothing worked, they would glare daggers at me and make mean comments ("someone wants to be looked at", "imagine always needing to be the center of attention") regardless of whether I wore a mini or baggy jeans. They would cling to their husbands as if I was a succubus and spread stories about how I was a tart. It was ridiculous.
When I gained the weight I am currently carrying they could not have been more gleeful. At one function, the one actually called the other to come and look and pointed at me! (they had not seen me in a while). I was then cornered later and told that "yeah, age catches up with us all hey?")
I must be honest, a part of what drives me forward is the sullen chicken bum faces they will have when I reveal my slim again bod at the end of this year, when the last time they have seen me is at my current weight.
The idea that my success bugs them actually delights and motivates me. For those who have experienced similar mean things? My suggestion? Let it fuel you.
The damned most heartbreaking thing is when people don't want you to succeed. It's so sad. Like, you don't just want to make some life changes and feel really good? You rather hate someone else for their success? I'm so rooting for you. Please do it!
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Obese. I'm still obese. I've been asked if I'm going to stop losing, and several comments suggesting I might want to play around now that I'm more attractive.0
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All my life ive heard youd be so pretty if you lost weight. Or you dont need to eat this or that.
now my mom says im starting to look good don't stop exercising. I also get well your on a diet are you supposed to eat that much or eat this particular thing at all.0 -
I've never gotten mean comments.0
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lemurcat12 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I personally find it interesting...generally speaking, guys get a lot less comments on their weight, etc than women...ergo, these seems largely like a female thing to me...how are you not comprehending what I'm saying here? do you not observe the same?
I wonder if that's true both positive and negative. For example, setting aside random anonymous jerks who will say mean things about the bodies of passers by (which I do think happens disproportionately to women), I wonder to what extent this relates to the fact that women are more likely to talk to others about their efforts to lose weight. I've had few people comment on my weight loss this time overall, since I didn't talk to that many people about it. Those that did were mostly either close to me (good friends, a co-worker I talk to a lot who also lost weight himself in the past) or from somewhat different cultural backgrounds where commenting might be more appropriate. When I lost the first time I talked about it a lot to a few co-workers who were actively attempting to lose, so I got more comments. My observation is most men don't really discuss efforts to diet with others (and when they do they get positive comments) and women are more likely to talk about this stuff.
Also, I do think there's a difference as to what's perceived as negative. Some comments obviously are, but many of those claimed as negative would not be taken as negative by me (similar to what rabbit said). I get the sense that women are more likely to analyze comments about their bodies and see intended insults in it while men are less likely even to notice or just assume that they are intended positively. Personally, since I consider my weight loss so positively and am in social circles where it still is strongly preferred to be thin vs. not (and where most people are average weight or less, especially when younger--overweight is not nearly so common as in the US as a whole), I tend to interpret any comment about my weight loss as positive (even "you don't have to lose any more") and I am confident I am interpreting it right, also.
Yeah, I think that may be very true. I mean I've never gotten anything like, "dude...you're too skinny" or anything like that...but the guys josh me at work for going out riding rather than out to lunch...and they josh me for my big *kitten* salad I eat most days...but it's all in jest and good fun. I personally don't take offense to things like, "hey...there goes the Wolfman trying to live forever again" as I ride off on my bike. They're just joking around...and I am trying to live forever, so even if they were serious, it would be true...LOL.
Then there are the annoying, "c'mon...have a cookie" comments...but again, I don't find these types of comments offensive or hurtful or mean or anything. I just usually make some joke like, "hey...I'm trying to live forever here remember?"...and if I feel like it, I'll have a cookie.0 -
You guys jinxed me. Today the cafeteria lady went on and on about how she remembers from like five years ago how I used to have a muffin for breakfast everyday and was starting to put on the weight. Loudly. She just knew for sure I was gonna become very big "eating up all those muffins". Meanwhile her coworker is on the phone behind her and cringing. Just mortified. There was only one other person around in the little store and I kind of laughed it off. But geez, inappropriate much? She started off saying "you lose weight easy don't you?" Uh... I've been doing this slowly for the better part of six years using exercise and then more recently MyFitnessPal
I'm pretty much in maintenance and was feeling good today wearing skinny pants that tucked into cowboy-ish boots. Didn't pass out. OH, YEAH!!! :bigsmile:0 -
I was asked if I had given up eating when I was 140 lbs (I'm female, 5' 7"). My bmi was 21, I was a U.S. Size 6/8. That size is my ultimate goal to get back to after this pregnancy. This comment came from my neighbor (male). I don't think he meant any harm by it tho - just his sense of humor. My husband told me that he (the neighbor) later asked what my secret was, lol. Mostly I got positive comments from people.0
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