Grain free and down ten pounds!

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  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    dreena222 wrote: »
    @earlnabby good job! My point is that with the lack of processed grains, I dropped 10 pounds, what's so hard to about that?

    So if you eat wheat directly from the stalk that would be fine?
  • lauraesh0384
    lauraesh0384 Posts: 463 Member
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    dreena222 wrote: »
    @earlnabby good job! My point is that with the lack of processed grains, I dropped 10 pounds, what's so hard to about that?

    Don't listen to all the naysayers. Just because they can eat grains and starches to lose weight, it doesn't mean all of us can. Good job! I personally went from to 240 to my current 169 by cutting out all grains, starches and refined sugar. If I eat grains and starches while being in a deficit, I don't lose weight. It's all a matter of how your body responds to those foods. Insulin resistance is real.
  • dreena222
    dreena222 Posts: 34 Member
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    Thank you!
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    dreena222 wrote: »
    @earlnabby good job! My point is that with the lack of processed grains, I dropped 10 pounds, what's so hard to about that?

    Don't listen to all the naysayers. Just because they can eat grains and starches to lose weight, it doesn't mean all of us can. Good job! I personally went from to 240 to my current 169 by cutting out all grains, starches and refined sugar. If I eat grains and starches while being in a deficit, I don't lose weight. It's all a matter of how your body responds to those foods. Insulin resistance is real.

    And here comes the nonsense. So insulin resistance isn't at all factored into the energy balance equation?
  • fatcity66
    fatcity66 Posts: 1,544 Member
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    dreena222 wrote: »
    @earlnabby good job! My point is that with the lack of processed grains, I dropped 10 pounds, what's so hard to about that?

    Don't listen to all the naysayers. Just because they can eat grains and starches to lose weight, it doesn't mean all of us can. Good job! I personally went from to 240 to my current 169 by cutting out all grains, starches and refined sugar. If I eat grains and starches while being in a deficit, I don't lose weight. It's all a matter of how your body responds to those foods. Insulin resistance is real.

    Gotta love science deniers. Is the world flat as well?
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
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    @lauraesh0384 This isn't about being a naysayer. It is about being an individual who understands how to rationally compose a diet. Most people don't understand this very simple concept.

    If you were the type of person who bought a majority of refined, high carbohydrate foods (cookies, cakes, sugary processed junk, etc.) whenever you went to the supermarket, and then CHANGED that shopping behavior to purchase a variety of whole, minimally processed foods, rich in nutrients and satiety, then of course it would be easier to lose weight, assuming you didn't overeat.

    The problem is not grains.

    The problem is overeating, not exercising, and primarily sticking to processed food brands like Entenmann's, Kellog's, Nestle, Nabisco, Kraft, etc.

    Shifting that diet to whole foods without a brand label stamped onto it is a wise decision.
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
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    Let me say...I am NOT grain free...I love me some grains.

    Honestly people...the OP in no way said that EVERYONE should be grain free. Nor did she say that being grain free was the only way to lose weight.

    What she did say was that her mood has improved...her sleep...her skin.

    This place has gotten to the point where no one outside of IIFYM way of eating can say a word without being vilified. Which by the way is the method that I use.

    I don't eat cottage cheese.
    I don't drink protein powders.
    I don't eat liver.
    I don't drink alcohol.
    I don't eat sardines.
    Plus a whole host of other things.

    To the OP...

    There were certain foods that I rarely eat...sausage...yeast breads...and a few others.
    I love both of those foods but I feel better when I don't eat them. So if you feel better not eating grains then stay off of them for a while and maybe at some point you can work them back in to your diet in smaller quantities.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    Annie_01 wrote: »
    Let me say...I am NOT grain free...I love me some grains.

    Honestly people...the OP in no way said that EVERYONE should be grain free. Nor did she say that being grain free was the only way to lose weight.

    What she did say was that her mood has improved...her sleep...her skin.

    This place has gotten to the point where no one outside of IIFYM way of eating can say a word without being vilified. Which by the way is the method that I use.

    I don't eat cottage cheese.
    I don't drink protein powders.
    I don't eat liver.
    I don't drink alcohol.
    I don't eat sardines.
    Plus a whole host of other things.

    To the OP...

    There were certain foods that I rarely eat...sausage...yeast breads...and a few others.
    I love both of those foods but I feel better when I don't eat them. So if you feel better not eating grains then stay off of them for a while and maybe at some point you can work them back in to your diet in smaller quantities.

    She said the weightloss and other benefits were from removing processed grains, she was challenged on that point and has yet to answer.
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,573 Member
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    My mom and I recently had a competition to see who could lose the most weight before a certain trip. I went completely grain-free and dropped 13 pounds, thus winning the competition. I am mostly grain free still and I've kept all of the weight off and even lost an additional few pounds.

    I'd be curious to know how many calories a day your mom was consuming, and how many calories a day you were consuming.

    Some people are more dedicated to eating at a deficit than others, which is why some people lose weight and some don't.



  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
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    sixxpoint wrote: »
    That's wonderful. But just so everyone is clear, the exclusion of grains is not what made you thinner. Rather, the reduction of overall calories did.

    You could go dairy free, meat free, butter free, etc. etc. and still possibly lose weight... That doesn't mean those foods are evil or should be excluded altogether. In fact, it is very silly to exclude any whole food aside from having an allergy or medical reaction to it. Variety is the spice of life.

    People exclude certain whole foods from their diet for a variety of reasons other than medical conditions. Why is that silly? Shouldn't we all be able to select our own diets based on our preferences?



  • jrosto
    jrosto Posts: 95 Member
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    It is interesting that someone posts a success story about how her body reacted to cutting grains and instantly the haters come out to play.

    My N-1 experiment

    Cut all grains and processed sugars. During the weight loss phase of my journey kept carbs below 50 gr/day. Also eliminated most vegetable and seed oils. Fats used were coconut oil, animal fats, and olive oil.

    Successes:

    Lost 90 pounds (go ahead, call that water weight) and have maintained that loss for over 3 months now.
    Acne disappeared.

    A couple other skin issues that were not resolved using doctor recommended cortisone creams disappeared.
    Energy levels are thru the roof.

    I had a bilateral lung transplant in January. Out of the more than 500 lung transplants performed by my team, I had the fastest recovery. I was out of the hospital in 9 days.

    During post transplant pulmonary rehab, I had the 2nd best Six Minute Walk Test (6MWT) results ever. #1 was a early 30's Army Ranger. I am 53.

    The lung disease I had was Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis, and I was end stage. One symptom that many IPF'rs have is a debilitating cough that often required morphine to control. After removing grains and sugars the cough went away. That is huge. I have helped a few others also eliminate these foods and they have also seen great results.

    I continue to recover ahead of the curve, and my recovery success is in a large part due to my healthy nutrition.
    And no, I do not have Celiac Disease.

    It is interesting how people feel that they have to jump in and try to debase a grain free diet every time there is a post in this forum. You know, if you want to eat wonder bread and pasta every day, go for it. I don't care what you do with your life. You want to be a vegetarian and post about how wonderful that lifestyle is, good on you. I'll not troll your post and try to convince you otherwise. Why is it you all feel so driven to try and dissuade those of us who have found success with a grain free lifestyle?

  • lauraesh0384
    lauraesh0384 Posts: 463 Member
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    Acg67 wrote: »
    dreena222 wrote: »
    @earlnabby good job! My point is that with the lack of processed grains, I dropped 10 pounds, what's so hard to about that?

    Don't listen to all the naysayers. Just because they can eat grains and starches to lose weight, it doesn't mean all of us can. Good job! I personally went from to 240 to my current 169 by cutting out all grains, starches and refined sugar. If I eat grains and starches while being in a deficit, I don't lose weight. It's all a matter of how your body responds to those foods. Insulin resistance is real.

    And here comes the nonsense. So insulin resistance isn't at all factored into the energy balance equation?

    Of course it is. If you eat more calories than you burn, obviously you're not going to lose weight. That wasn't the point behind my statement. My point was that "diets" aren't a one size fits all. Insulin resistance isn't nonsense. It makes sense. It would explain why person A can eat grains and starches and lose weight, why person B eats those exact same foods and doesn't lose weight or gains weight. It's all about whether your body locks those calories away in your fat cells or if it allows them to be used for energy. Of course in the end regardless of what WOE you're following, calories do matter. Maybe in the beginning of your weight loss journey you can be a little more lax with them.

    I don't understand why everyone in these forums can't be happy for someone when they have found something that works for them. The moment someone mentions they've cut out grains, starches and sugars, it's debunked with "you don't have to cut those out to lose weight". What works for you doesn't necessarily work for me or the OP.

  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
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    Annie_01 wrote: »
    sixxpoint wrote: »
    That's wonderful. But just so everyone is clear, the exclusion of grains is not what made you thinner. Rather, the reduction of overall calories did.

    You could go dairy free, meat free, butter free, etc. etc. and still possibly lose weight... That doesn't mean those foods are evil or should be excluded altogether. In fact, it is very silly to exclude any whole food aside from having an allergy or medical reaction to it. Variety is the spice of life.

    People exclude certain whole foods from their diet for a variety of reasons other than medical conditions. Why is that silly? Shouldn't we all be able to select our own diets based on our preferences?

    I never said that you should eat something that you don't like. Preference is certainly a factor. I thought that was common sense.

    That said, if you hate something like shrimp or mushrooms because you had them once or twice in your life and you didn't like them... then not trying them again as a grown adult, when they are fresh and prepared correctly, would be quite ignorant.
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
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    sixxpoint wrote: »
    It's wise to eliminate or strictly limit processed foods... but specifically focusing on grains/bread and basically convincing others that they are the only problem on the path toward weight loss is not the best advice.

    There are many types of processed foods... Avoid as much as them as you can and don't single out grains/bread as the culprit.

    There was nothing in her post trying to convince others that they must give up grains in order to lose weight. Nor did she give advice to others to eliminate them.

  • fatblatta
    fatblatta Posts: 333 Member
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    dreena222 wrote: »
    i have been gluten free for a year now and I have never felt better in my life but my weight hasn't moved. I recently started not eating any grains mostly as an "experiment"........it's been 3 weeks and I'm down 10 pounds! I realize it's mostly water weight, but I couldn't lose it before being grain free. My skin, my stomach, my attitude and my sleep are all improved! I am excited! Is there any one else with a similar story? I'm very interested to hear!!

    Very good. Keep doing it, an try to cut out all forms of sugar. Get your carbs from veggies only. If you add good fat to your diet, such as avocados, butter, olive oil and coconut oil, you will not feel hungry and you'll eat less. You will find many benefits, including steady slow weight loss and you'll feel much better. Your glucose will be very stable. From a fat guy who has done this.

    Cheers,

    FB
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
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    Annie_01 wrote: »
    sixxpoint wrote: »
    It's wise to eliminate or strictly limit processed foods... but specifically focusing on grains/bread and basically convincing others that they are the only problem on the path toward weight loss is not the best advice.

    There are many types of processed foods... Avoid as much as them as you can and don't single out grains/bread as the culprit.

    There was nothing in her post trying to convince others that they must give up grains in order to lose weight. Nor did she give advice to others to eliminate them.

    She connected being grain/gluten free with her success for weight loss and feeling better about herself when she has no apparent medical condition or allergy against grains/gluten.

    The reason she is lighter, feeling better, with greater confidence, and seeing results is due to calorie restriction... Not a restriction of grains/bread per se (unless specifically diagnosed by a doctor as being sensitive to these foods).
  • jrosto
    jrosto Posts: 95 Member
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    I don't understand why everyone in these forums can't be happy for someone when they have found something that works for them. The moment someone mentions they've cut out grains, starches and sugars, it's debunked with "you don't have to cut those out to lose weight". What works for you doesn't necessarily work for me or the OP.

    Exactly
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    Acg67 wrote: »
    dreena222 wrote: »
    @earlnabby good job! My point is that with the lack of processed grains, I dropped 10 pounds, what's so hard to about that?

    Don't listen to all the naysayers. Just because they can eat grains and starches to lose weight, it doesn't mean all of us can. Good job! I personally went from to 240 to my current 169 by cutting out all grains, starches and refined sugar. If I eat grains and starches while being in a deficit, I don't lose weight. It's all a matter of how your body responds to those foods. Insulin resistance is real.

    And here comes the nonsense. So insulin resistance isn't at all factored into the energy balance equation?

    Of course it is. If you eat more calories than you burn, obviously you're not going to lose weight. That wasn't the point behind my statement. My point was that "diets" aren't a one size fits all. Insulin resistance isn't nonsense. It makes sense. It would explain why person A can eat grains and starches and lose weight, why person B eats those exact same foods and doesn't lose weight or gains weight. It's all about whether your body locks those calories away in your fat cells or if it allows them to be used for energy. Of course in the end regardless of what WOE you're following, calories do matter. Maybe in the beginning of your weight loss journey you can be a little more lax with them.

    I don't understand why everyone in these forums can't be happy for someone when they have found something that works for them. The moment someone mentions they've cut out grains, starches and sugars, it's debunked with "you don't have to cut those out to lose weight". What works for you doesn't necessarily work for me or the OP.

    "If I eat grains and starches while being in a deficit, I don't lose weight"

    Yup no nonsense in your post I replied to. Solid strawman through, where did someone say insulin resistance was nonsense?
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    jrosto wrote: »
    It is interesting that someone posts a success story about how her body reacted to cutting grains and instantly the haters come out to play.

    My N-1 experiment

    Cut all grains and processed sugars. During the weight loss phase of my journey kept carbs below 50 gr/day. Also eliminated most vegetable and seed oils. Fats used were coconut oil, animal fats, and olive oil.

    Successes:

    Lost 90 pounds (go ahead, call that water weight) and have maintained that loss for over 3 months now.
    Acne disappeared.

    A couple other skin issues that were not resolved using doctor recommended cortisone creams disappeared.
    Energy levels are thru the roof.

    I had a bilateral lung transplant in January. Out of the more than 500 lung transplants performed by my team, I had the fastest recovery. I was out of the hospital in 9 days.

    During post transplant pulmonary rehab, I had the 2nd best Six Minute Walk Test (6MWT) results ever. #1 was a early 30's Army Ranger. I am 53.

    The lung disease I had was Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis, and I was end stage. One symptom that many IPF'rs have is a debilitating cough that often required morphine to control. After removing grains and sugars the cough went away. That is huge. I have helped a few others also eliminate these foods and they have also seen great results.

    I continue to recover ahead of the curve, and my recovery success is in a large part due to my healthy nutrition.
    And no, I do not have Celiac Disease.

    It is interesting how people feel that they have to jump in and try to debase a grain free diet every time there is a post in this forum. You know, if you want to eat wonder bread and pasta every day, go for it. I don't care what you do with your life. You want to be a vegetarian and post about how wonderful that lifestyle is, good on you. I'll not troll your post and try to convince you otherwise. Why is it you all feel so driven to try and dissuade those of us who have found success with a grain free lifestyle?

    So pointing out lies and fallacies is being a hater? Good to know.

    Oh and sucrose, is that a processed or natural sugar?
  • StarvingAuthor
    StarvingAuthor Posts: 67 Member
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    sixxpoint wrote: »
    Annie_01 wrote: »
    sixxpoint wrote: »
    It's wise to eliminate or strictly limit processed foods... but specifically focusing on grains/bread and basically convincing others that they are the only problem on the path toward weight loss is not the best advice.

    There are many types of processed foods... Avoid as much as them as you can and don't single out grains/bread as the culprit.

    There was nothing in her post trying to convince others that they must give up grains in order to lose weight. Nor did she give advice to others to eliminate them.

    Well then unfortunately, you lack reading comprehension.

    I guess I do too. Where did she try to convince us? She gave us her experience and wanted to know if anyone else experienced that.
    i have been gluten free for a year now and I have never felt better in my life but my weight hasn't moved.

    Bland statement of personal life fact. No correlations, not claims, nothing. She has been gluten free for 1 year and has not lost weight.
    I recently started not eating any grains mostly as an "experiment"........

    Bland statement of personal life fact. Experiment. She is not making any claims or giving advice.
    it's been 3 weeks and I'm down 10 pounds! I realize it's mostly water weight

    Another bland statement of a personal life fact. It has been 21 days and she lost 10 pounds. She also acknowledges water weight. She is not giving any advice at all, but instead saying what she personally experienced in her personal life. I lost 4 pounds over the last month and some is water weight. That is not telling you to do anything at all - that is me telling you what happened in my life over the past month.
    but I couldn't lose it before being grain free.

    She states that grains are what she attributes to her weight loss. I'm assuming here, but she is (imo) implying that despite all of her efforts, it seems that only cutting grains has worked. There are a lot of other factors that likely played into her weight loss, yes, but she is just relaying her experience to us. She is not giving advice at all. If she were, she'd have ended this with "Try it, it works!" or, "And here is my book/blog/youtube about it!"
    My skin, my stomach, my attitude and my sleep are all improved!

    Again, factual information about her personal being. It's not exactly unheard of, either. In fact, I wouldn't even dispute this, personally. She isn't telling you to do anything.
    I am excited!

    She is excited!
    Is there any one else with a similar story? I'm very interested to hear!!

    She is soliciting similar stories, not giving advice. In fact, she is really interested to hear about your experience! In fact, this may be because she isn't even sure if it is related to grains and wants some people's input! IN FACT, this disputes that she is giving advice at all because not once in her entire paragraph did she give advice rather than tell us about her experience!

    OP, it was probably calories because grains are pretty tricky to track, but I am so happy for you and it is great that you are feeling better! :-)