Where does the low carb group hang out?
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angelexperiment wrote: »Why are people being so rude
not even adressing ops questions. Well I don't think low carbers are well recieved on here. Cant we just spread love and drink the keto coffee? Ill make u some its fantabulous:)
Love peace and yes chicken g r ease
I don't have an issue with low carb or those that choose it for reasonable reasons such as a life choice and preference or recommended by specialists/doctors but not because it's "cool" or they heard it's a fast way to lose weight......I have friends who are low carb due to preference we have no issues...at all.
I have the issue when it is said...you don't have to count calories just carbs to lose weight or they accuse people of "attacking like a pack of lions" etc...that is their view...
it is a back and forth due to the facts that low carb is not a requirement for weight loss being said frequently and them disagreeing without backing it up.
Fine eat low carb but don't spread misinformation...and don't play the victim.
You're ignoring the question - does CICO stop working if you don't count calories but still eat at a deficit?
I con't understand your question. You're in a deficit, which is the definition of how CICO works. Just because you're not counting calories doesn't mean the deficit doesn't exist, you just know you're in a deficit because of the effect you can see, the weight loss.
What are you even asking?0 -
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who is attacking?
for the record - debate does not equal attack...0 -
Also, OP:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/7705-low-carb-high-fat-lifestyle (public group)
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/104192-low-carb (private group)
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/273-la-vida-low-carb (public group)
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/3843-low-carb-living (public group)
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/discussions/15248-low-carb-support (public group)0 -
angelexperiment wrote: »Why are people being so rude not even adressing ops questions. Well I don't think low carbers are well recieved on here. Cant we just spread love and drink the keto coffee? Ill make u some its fantabulous:)
Love peace and yes chicken g r ease
I don't have an issue with low carb or those that choose it for reasonable reasons such as a life choice and preference or recommended by specialists/doctors but not because it's "cool" or they heard it's a fast way to lose weight......I have friends who are low carb due to preference we have no issues...at all.
I have the issue when it is said...you don't have to count calories just carbs to lose weight or they accuse people of "attacking like a pack of lions" etc...that is their view...
it is a back and forth due to the facts that low carb is not a requirement for weight loss being said frequently and them disagreeing without backing it up.
Fine eat low carb but don't spread misinformation...and don't play the victim.
You're ignoring the question - does CICO stop working if you don't count calories but still eat at a deficit?
is this really a serious question????
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Ah, I completely missed that comment, and your question seemed so out of context.tincanonastring wrote: »angelexperiment wrote: »Why are people being so rude not even adressing ops questions. Well I don't think low carbers are well recieved on here. Cant we just spread love and drink the keto coffee? Ill make u some its fantabulous:)
Love peace and yes chicken g r ease
I don't have an issue with low carb or those that choose it for reasonable reasons such as a life choice and preference or recommended by specialists/doctors but not because it's "cool" or they heard it's a fast way to lose weight......I have friends who are low carb due to preference we have no issues...at all.
I have the issue when it is said...you don't have to count calories just carbs to lose weight or they accuse people of "attacking like a pack of lions" etc...that is their view...
it is a back and forth due to the facts that low carb is not a requirement for weight loss being said frequently and them disagreeing without backing it up.
Fine eat low carb but don't spread misinformation...and don't play the victim.
You're ignoring the question - does CICO stop working if you don't count calories but still eat at a deficit?
Has anyone ever said that it doesn't? If a tree falls in the woods with no one around to hear it, does it make a sound? What's the point of your question?
It was brought up as a warning. Why warn about something if it's not harmful? What's so dangerous that people need to be cautious before exchanging information with people who don't count calories? This is the remark that lead to my question:
"be forewarned there are lots there who do not believe you need to count calories to lose weight...just carbs."
What are the dire consequences that will befall OP if he ventures into the LC group without advance knowledge of the existence of people who are at a deficit or maintenance without counting calories?
The actual warning should be to ignore the people who say you can eat 5000 calories of something and not gain weight because it's healthy whatever. I doubt you'd find that info in the low carb group since I usually associate that with the Freelee followers, but I guess there's some paleo crazy person somewhere who thinks they can eat 50lbs of bacon and not gain. I'm thinking every group has the outlier that doesn't understand how weight loss works.0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »angelexperiment wrote: »Why are people being so rude not even adressing ops questions. Well I don't think low carbers are well recieved on here. Cant we just spread love and drink the keto coffee? Ill make u some its fantabulous:)
Love peace and yes chicken g r ease
I don't have an issue with low carb or those that choose it for reasonable reasons such as a life choice and preference or recommended by specialists/doctors but not because it's "cool" or they heard it's a fast way to lose weight......I have friends who are low carb due to preference we have no issues...at all.
I have the issue when it is said...you don't have to count calories just carbs to lose weight or they accuse people of "attacking like a pack of lions" etc...that is their view...
it is a back and forth due to the facts that low carb is not a requirement for weight loss being said frequently and them disagreeing without backing it up.
Fine eat low carb but don't spread misinformation...and don't play the victim.
You're ignoring the question - does CICO stop working if you don't count calories but still eat at a deficit?
Has anyone ever said that it doesn't? If a tree falls in the woods with no one around to hear it, does it make a sound? What's the point of your question?
It was brought up as a warning. Why warn about something if it's not harmful? What's so dangerous that people need to be cautious before exchanging information with people who don't count calories? This is the remark that lead to my question:
"be forewarned there are lots there who do not believe you need to count calories to lose weight...just carbs."
What are the dire consequences that will befall OP if he ventures into the LC group without advance knowledge of the existence of people who are at a deficit or maintenance without counting calories?
I would have thought the answer obvious.
"be forewarned there are lots there who do not believe you need to count calories to lose weight...just carbs."
Doesn't assume a deficit or maintenance, as you did.
FWIW - I don't know or particularly care if the allegation is true or not...but pointing out that even low-carb requires a calorie deficit for weight loss I would think would be helpful info for anyone going down that path.0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »angelexperiment wrote: »Why are people being so rude not even adressing ops questions. Well I don't think low carbers are well recieved on here. Cant we just spread love and drink the keto coffee? Ill make u some its fantabulous:)
Love peace and yes chicken g r ease
I don't have an issue with low carb or those that choose it for reasonable reasons such as a life choice and preference or recommended by specialists/doctors but not because it's "cool" or they heard it's a fast way to lose weight......I have friends who are low carb due to preference we have no issues...at all.
I have the issue when it is said...you don't have to count calories just carbs to lose weight or they accuse people of "attacking like a pack of lions" etc...that is their view...
it is a back and forth due to the facts that low carb is not a requirement for weight loss being said frequently and them disagreeing without backing it up.
Fine eat low carb but don't spread misinformation...and don't play the victim.
You're ignoring the question - does CICO stop working if you don't count calories but still eat at a deficit?
Has anyone ever said that it doesn't? If a tree falls in the woods with no one around to hear it, does it make a sound? What's the point of your question?
It was brought up as a warning. Why warn about something if it's not harmful? What's so dangerous that people need to be cautious before exchanging information with people who don't count calories? This is the remark that lead to my question:
"be forewarned there are lots there who do not believe you need to count calories to lose weight...just carbs."
What are the dire consequences that will befall OP if he ventures into the LC group without advance knowledge of the existence of people who are at a deficit or maintenance without counting calories?
besides the fact that they refer to non low carbers as "CICO people" with the implication being that LC is not CICO, other than that I guess OP will be fine...0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »angelexperiment wrote: »Why are people being so rude not even adressing ops questions. Well I don't think low carbers are well recieved on here. Cant we just spread love and drink the keto coffee? Ill make u some its fantabulous:)
Love peace and yes chicken g r ease
I don't have an issue with low carb or those that choose it for reasonable reasons such as a life choice and preference or recommended by specialists/doctors but not because it's "cool" or they heard it's a fast way to lose weight......I have friends who are low carb due to preference we have no issues...at all.
I have the issue when it is said...you don't have to count calories just carbs to lose weight or they accuse people of "attacking like a pack of lions" etc...that is their view...
it is a back and forth due to the facts that low carb is not a requirement for weight loss being said frequently and them disagreeing without backing it up.
Fine eat low carb but don't spread misinformation...and don't play the victim.
You're ignoring the question - does CICO stop working if you don't count calories but still eat at a deficit?
Has anyone ever said that it doesn't? If a tree falls in the woods with no one around to hear it, does it make a sound? What's the point of your question?
It was brought up as a warning. Why warn about something if it's not harmful? What's so dangerous that people need to be cautious before exchanging information with people who don't count calories? This is the remark that lead to my question:
"be forewarned there are lots there who do not believe you need to count calories to lose weight...just carbs."
What are the dire consequences that will befall OP if he ventures into the LC group without advance knowledge of the existence of people who are at a deficit or maintenance without counting calories?
I would have thought the answer obvious.
"be forewarned there are lots there who do not believe you need to count calories to lose weight...just carbs."
Doesn't assume a deficit or maintenance, as you did.
FWIW - I don't know or particularly care if the allegation is true or not...but pointing out that even low-carb requires a calorie deficit for weight loss I would think would be helpful info for anyone going down that path.
But she's warning about the beliefs in there, which means she's basing it on what she's read in that group. There are two very long and involved threads, referenced in the FAQ, listing pros and cons of counting or not, but both cover that you can't lose without a deficit. The debate is whether or not people have more success micromanaging everything or only keeping carbs low and intuitively eating less on their own. It also acknowledges that even if not counting works when you have a lot to lose, it may be less effective as you get closer to goal.
Which brings me back to - exactly what is so dire that it necessitates a warning?0 -
tlflag1620 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Am I the only one who noticed that we have an abundance of flags in this thread and a user in this thread who has the word 'flag' in their username?
Coincidence or no?
Just FYI, per community guidelines:
" If you have concerns about another poster, or wish to report a guideline violation, the only appropriate venue is to use the Report Post link or to message a moderator or Olivia, MFP's Community Manager. You may not air such concerns on the message boards themselves."
You gave me the helpful advice not to personally attack, so I'll return the favor - don't air personal grievances on the forums. You're welcome.
Trust me, the person posting the offensive comments is the one punished; not the person who tells the offender that they are reporting them
Also, I'm so glad you finally took the time to read the community guidelines. It only took how long…0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »angelexperiment wrote: »Why are people being so rude not even adressing ops questions. Well I don't think low carbers are well recieved on here. Cant we just spread love and drink the keto coffee? Ill make u some its fantabulous:)
Love peace and yes chicken g r ease
I don't have an issue with low carb or those that choose it for reasonable reasons such as a life choice and preference or recommended by specialists/doctors but not because it's "cool" or they heard it's a fast way to lose weight......I have friends who are low carb due to preference we have no issues...at all.
I have the issue when it is said...you don't have to count calories just carbs to lose weight or they accuse people of "attacking like a pack of lions" etc...that is their view...
it is a back and forth due to the facts that low carb is not a requirement for weight loss being said frequently and them disagreeing without backing it up.
Fine eat low carb but don't spread misinformation...and don't play the victim.
You're ignoring the question - does CICO stop working if you don't count calories but still eat at a deficit?
Has anyone ever said that it doesn't? If a tree falls in the woods with no one around to hear it, does it make a sound? What's the point of your question?
It was brought up as a warning. Why warn about something if it's not harmful? What's so dangerous that people need to be cautious before exchanging information with people who don't count calories? This is the remark that lead to my question:
"be forewarned there are lots there who do not believe you need to count calories to lose weight...just carbs."
What are the dire consequences that will befall OP if he ventures into the LC group without advance knowledge of the existence of people who are at a deficit or maintenance without counting calories?
you make me laugh...honestly...I mean yes nit pick at my words...fine but to be honest this just really makes you look well....*trying to figure it out without being mean*...foolish...really...why because at this level you have to pick that particular phrase out knowing full well what it means...*smh*
My words were of a cautionary sort as I did read in there the thread where it was touted that only keeping carbs at a certain level was required for weight loss and that calories were irrelevant..
ETA: as a cautionary note for you...not everyone here has english as the first language and picking apart a post based on words used could be construed as making fun of them for not knowing how to speak english...be careful with that...esp since I am from Canada...my native tongue could be french...
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tincanonastring wrote: »angelexperiment wrote: »Why are people being so rude not even adressing ops questions. Well I don't think low carbers are well recieved on here. Cant we just spread love and drink the keto coffee? Ill make u some its fantabulous:)
Love peace and yes chicken g r ease
I don't have an issue with low carb or those that choose it for reasonable reasons such as a life choice and preference or recommended by specialists/doctors but not because it's "cool" or they heard it's a fast way to lose weight......I have friends who are low carb due to preference we have no issues...at all.
I have the issue when it is said...you don't have to count calories just carbs to lose weight or they accuse people of "attacking like a pack of lions" etc...that is their view...
it is a back and forth due to the facts that low carb is not a requirement for weight loss being said frequently and them disagreeing without backing it up.
Fine eat low carb but don't spread misinformation...and don't play the victim.
You're ignoring the question - does CICO stop working if you don't count calories but still eat at a deficit?
Has anyone ever said that it doesn't? If a tree falls in the woods with no one around to hear it, does it make a sound? What's the point of your question?
It was brought up as a warning. Why warn about something if it's not harmful? What's so dangerous that people need to be cautious before exchanging information with people who don't count calories? This is the remark that lead to my question:
"be forewarned there are lots there who do not believe you need to count calories to lose weight...just carbs."
What are the dire consequences that will befall OP if he ventures into the LC group without advance knowledge of the existence of people who are at a deficit or maintenance without counting calories?
you make me laugh...honestly...I mean yes nit pick at my words...fine but to be honest this just really makes you look well....*trying to figure it out without being mean*...foolish...really...why because at this level you have to pick that particular phrase out knowing full well what it means...*smh*
My words were of a cautionary sort as I did read in there the thread where it was touted that only keeping carbs at a certain level was required for weight loss and that calories were irrelevant..
did we not have a thread the other day where someone said they did not lose weight with a deficit until they cut out carbs????
You may want to stress the FAQ's to some of the members more often.0 -
Whoever keeps flagging people needs to read this: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10007789/flagged-content-reported-posts-warning-points?0
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Dude should change the name to TheMadFlagger742...
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JakeBrownVB wrote: »I'm curious. What "health reasons" would require someone to have to go low carb. I've never heard of an illness that required that before
It helped cure my PCOS and I was able to have a baby. It works. Everyone's body metabolizes things differently, and most carbohydrates break down into glucose. (In a very basic explanation). It can also be important for someone with diabetes / insulin reasons. Or celiac disease. Fiber is metabolized differently, for example.0 -
Hi. I'm doing keto for PCOS, as well. And weight loss and fertility reasons (goes along with PCOS and the insulin resistance.) I'm not in a group, but you can add me. I see that there are a lot of people blowing up this thread, and I didn't read it all, I only read about half of what was here. But I'm here. Hi. Just be sure to tell me who you are when you friend me, because I don't accept blank requests. Lol, too many random people wanting weird stuff for that.0
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OP - I do feel a little bad that you are new here, asked what you thought was an innocent question, and got sucked into what has been a very long week of even more arguments, ridiculous posts, and rampant flagging than normal.
However, when people have tried to ask you some clarifying questions and/or given you links to some things to do further research, you responded fairly snippily, and as such, the gif fest has commenced, interspersed between the flagging...
I expect this thread will get locked imminently...0 -
Jake
DM, insulin resisitance, PCOS are a few of illnesses that are treated with low carb.
There is that group yes but be forewarned there are lots there who do not believe you need to count calories to lose weight...just carbs.
If you are on a low carb diet for health reasons good luck and perhaps check into getting an appointment with a dietician (registered) to get more education on the topic.
Does CICO no longer work if I don't actually count the calories going into my body?
That was my question as well. I DIDN'T count calories to lose weight (and I wasn't low carb).
The act of calorie counting is not 100% necessary for 100% of the people.
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Jake
DM, insulin resisitance, PCOS are a few of illnesses that are treated with low carb.
There is that group yes but be forewarned there are lots there who do not believe you need to count calories to lose weight...just carbs.
If you are on a low carb diet for health reasons good luck and perhaps check into getting an appointment with a dietician (registered) to get more education on the topic.
Does CICO no longer work if I don't actually count the calories going into my body?
That was my question as well. I DIDN'T count calories to lose weight (and I wasn't low carb).
The act of calorie counting is not 100% necessary for 100% of the people.
who is arguing it is?0
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