:-( Less calories, more exercise ≠loose weight!! :-(
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onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »Thank you to those that actually believe me.
Another interesting turn.... I have been ill for about a week.
Done NO exercise and my calories would have increased.... and my weight is roughly the same!!!
(I have surprised myself with how quickly the calories increased with the bike. I started doing about 15 mins. After doubling the level I can now get though 1000 in about 40 mins to an hour, depends what I watch! I have been doing that first thing before breakfast etc and then again in the evening, and at least one jealous witness lol!)
Batteries - yes have ordered more as they are running low, however a different scales say roughly the same (they only give st n lb with no extra oz)
Bizarre and ANNOYING as holiday in a few days and I cant fit in last years clothes
There is NO way you burn 1000 calories in 40 minutes.0 -
LLnotURmommaLL wrote: »Didn't see one useful answer to her question. You automatically assume she hasn't logged her calories right. I lost 45 lbs in 9 months, hit a plateau and have now gained back 14 lbs. Yes I weight my food, I haven't changed the the type of foods I eat, don't snack & swim 3 days a week. My calorie is 1200 per day but often eat less. I've dieted for two years but have been at my current weight for the last six months. I have no intentions to change my calorie intake but have no expectations that my weight will change. So I would appreciate it if you have no useful suggestions for this lady don't say anything.
Aren't you that poster who had that picture of a cat shaped pizza? New account I assume? I recognize you due to the writing style being the same and you repeating what you always did in that account.
On the contrary, I think she got a lot of useful advice. The first thing that should always be assessed is whether or not the person is weighing/measuring food correctly, doing honest logging, and using correct database entries. That is where the problem usually is.
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If you weigh yourself at night and find that you weigh more the following morning, get your kidneys checked immediately.onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »Again thank you for your feedback.
Keeping calm... I am NOT eating LOTS and lying to myself... I have kept the food down. I know what I am and not eating, using scales and the calorie counts on packaging (keeping in mind they can be out by 40% according to one programme).
According to the exercise bike I am burning 1100 x2 a day and cross ref with a computer programme that is +/_ 10%.
(this week I doubled the bike from about 45 mins, 1000 calories claimed to x 2 a day) has made no difference to weight loss.)
(a few weeks ago I doubled the level which was not as bad as I thought, but again have lost nothing in that time!)
If I use up about 1000 a day in everyday living and then an additional 2000 (excluding the aledged after burn) and a few eggs, veg soup n salad is not 3000.
Currently I, and now my other 1/2 is defying the laws of physics as they have not lost weight in many weeks either!
I would imagine after all these weeks that the fat that was on my legs has hopefully turned to muscle and yes that will weigh more but again after all these weeks surely I must be loosing somewhere.
It makes NO sense to weigh before sleep and then wake a few more lbs in the morning!! (same scales used on the same place on the floor)
I have not gone down to eat in middle of the night and not known about it as the house alarm would be set off.
(my weight goes up and down around 3 lbs but never below the plateau of the lowest.)
mixing it up would be nice however there I little that can be done.
jogging is out- various reasons
anything with weight/stretching to the arms and torso is out
swimming is out due to cost and time
walking briskly is out as can only walk slowly with a little one and I don't have access to childcare to be able to go out on my own during the day.
Thank you all for your guesses.... and feedback however now can I only have feedback from those that have been though this.... how long it took to get though a plateau, ideas to break the plateau and keeping sane in the mean time.
In a few weeks I will not have access to the exercise bike and I am really really worried what weight I will put on as I have not lost it with using it!! :-(
Speaking to others some people don't loose for a month!! (the last time I tried this it was one week loose one week not - regardless of what I did or did not do). That being born female its harder. ... taking advise I am now having breakfast. For one person they did not loose if they did not eat breakfast - made no difference to me :-(
I can now see why people become obsessed when there is no logic to what is going on!
If you weigh yourself at night and find that you weigh more the following morning, see a doctor immediately.0 -
You're not really burning 1000+ calories on the stationary bicycle unless you're going at it with high resistance and keeping revolutions per minute around 80 for 3 hours. You'll get about 360 calories burned per hour that way.0
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Oh, and P.S., in the past when I was succeeding on the Weight Watchers program, there were weeks when I lost nothing at all or even gained a little; this would go on for up to 6 weeks. As long as I stuck with it, all of a sudden I'd lose 3 or 4 pounds in a week. Remember that there is a lot of adjustment going on at the cellular level when you go from fat storing to fat burning. It takes time. Be patient.0
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TimothyFish wrote: »LLnotURmommaLL wrote: »Didn't see one useful answer to her question. You automatically assume she hasn't logged her calories right. I lost 45 lbs in 9 months, hit a plateau and have now gained back 14 lbs. Yes I weight my food, I haven't changed the the type of foods I eat, don't snack & swim 3 days a week. My calorie is 1200 per day but often eat less. I've dieted for two years but have been at my current weight for the last six months. I have no intentions to change my calorie intake but have no expectations that my weight will change. So I would appreciate it if you have no useful suggestions for this lady don't say anything.
If you haven't lost weight for six months, that means that you are eating at or above your maintenance level. Unless you are very light weight, 1200 per day is below your maintenance level. So, either you are eating more than 1200, or you are losing weight and don't realize it. Since we know you are eating more than 1200, but you think you are eating at 1200, that means there is food that you aren't logging. That may be because you are miscalculating portion sizes. That may be because there is food you are ignoring. That may be because you are misreading the calorie information on the labels or the calorie information in the database is wrong. Whatever the case, all you need to do is look at what you've been eating and eat less. Since your log entries are incorrect anyway, it might be better to not log at all, just reduce what you're eating.
Or are holding on to ENORMOUS and increasing amounts of water, which is possible in certain extremely serious medical conditions.
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onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »Firstly
Amazingly I did not feel that hungry after doing the morning cycle (varied minimum of 500 calories and often used up 1000 give or take 10% ) so often did not eat until later which helped me keep the calories low. Have tried (pain in bottom depending) on doing at least 500 calories 2 - 4 times a day...
Most people with hard but not extreme work burn about ~500 calories an hour during exercise.
Moderate exercise (still sweating) is about ~300 an hour.
Light exercise is about ~150 an hour.
(It depends on exactly WHAT you're doing as to what your calorie burn is, but this is a pretty good estimate.)
So I'm REALLY REALLY REALLY suspicious of the idea that you're doing 2-4 hours of exercise a day.
An insanely extreme workout would be 1000 cal in an hour. I don't think I've ever done more than 800 in an hour in my life.
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Oh, and you can TOTALLY walk briskly with a little one. You can get a jogging stroller on Craig's List, and you can stuff a kid up to 80lbs into one of those.
Look, I can't run. I have exercise-induced anaphylaxis, crappy knees, and other issues. I have a hinky shoulder with a catch in it that I have to work carefully, too. I'm working out, counting my calories correctly, and losing weight.0 -
Is it possible you bike is calculating in KJ not calories?0
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karenhume100 wrote: »Is it possible you bike is calculating in KJ not calories?
NICE CATCH!!!!0 -
Thanks for some of it... no I have never had a different account on here.
NO not buying new clothes, that is what made me accept my added weight, and not hide from it.
No one mentioned why NO exercise from being poorly but next to no weight gain.
Have been weighing morning and night, usually down the next morning...
I have a gizmo that helps remove water retention so I use those, so water should not be a problem.
The bike only gives calories not KJ... The bike has the level of 1 - 32 I started at 10 and upped it to 20, its like riding though treacle, and yes I sweat buckets. I have also hurt my bottom, and struggled to walk with all the riding I have done. I could not do it running, but watching an interesting programme makes it bearable..
Originally when I did it I was shattered ++ but the recovery rate is so much better now so far fitter (and as I said better legs lol)
I am not eating back the blinking calories! I could not mange it now makes me sick when I have the occasional big meal or treats as it is :-(
I cant do anything that involves weights or stretching especially of the torso.
As per a previous one, yes it seems the only thing is just keep going as something has to give.
May try the 5:2 again as not done that for many weeks and that may kick / switch something.
Just take the attitude of better life style and weight loss is the added bonus
And thank you to those who do understand. I can appreciate that that many people have too much time on their hands that they do make things up for attention, but as someone who does not even do facebook as I dont have time, I am not one of them. I just want to solve the problem and loose the weight!
So anyway, again, anyone that has been though this, (or double checking an easy mistake like calories and kj's) please feel free to offer suggestion. :-)0 -
What is this gizmo of which you speak?onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »I have a gizmo that helps remove water retention so I use those, so water should not be a problem.
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Please open your diary. Also, it's been a while since you started this thread, could you refresh my memory? What are your stats. I'd like to help you, but you'll have to focus on answering specific questions so we can narrow things down.
To get to the heart of the matter, we need to eliminate possibilities first. A look through your diary will do that. I'm not looking to food shame you or anything like that.
If you'd give more information on the reasons why the various forms of activity are out for you it would be helpful. I have limitations too, so I do understand.0 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »
What is this gizmo of which you speak?onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »I have a gizmo that helps remove water retention so I use those, so water should not be a problem.
Was wondering the same thing...
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You only want advice from people who have been through what you are going through?
Ok, your choice. If it were me, I'd want advice from those who have consistently and successful seen the scale go down.
I'm with you on that.
When I've been struggling, not seeing the scale go down, I know in my heart of hearts that it's because I'm not being 100% faithful/accurate in my logging.
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Dialysis machine? Water pills (not what I'd call a gizmo)? Mogwai?snickerscharlie wrote: »
What is this gizmo of which you speak?onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »I have a gizmo that helps remove water retention so I use those, so water should not be a problem.
Was wondering the same thing...
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Dialysis machine? Water pills (not what I'd call a gizmo)? Mogwai?snickerscharlie wrote: »
What is this gizmo of which you speak?onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »I have a gizmo that helps remove water retention so I use those, so water should not be a problem.
Was wondering the same thing...
Turkey baster? Nasal aspirator?
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Dialysis machine? Water pills (not what I'd call a gizmo)? Mogwai?snickerscharlie wrote: »
What is this gizmo of which you speak?onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »I have a gizmo that helps remove water retention so I use those, so water should not be a problem.
Was wondering the same thing...
Mogwai, Ba ha ha ha!
Maybe an ItWorks wrap!
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I'm still just not believing those exercise numbers. Very, very, very few people could do 2000 calories of exercise day in and day out.
Professional athletes don't do that consistently, every day.0 -
MamaBirdBoss wrote: »I'm still just not believing those exercise numbers. Very, very, very few people could do 2000 calories of exercise day in and day out.
Professional athletes don't do that consistently, every day.
I agree with you, but the OP is not budging on that. I think she's looking for a reason that doesn't indicate that she's eating too much and/or over-estimating her burns.
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If you want advice from people who haven't counted their calories properly and then did count them properly and suddenly lost weight, the board is full of them.
If you want advice from people who continued to insist on not counting things properly, well, the board has a number of them, too. They have "been through it" as in they insisted that they were doing the right things. But they haven't "been through it" as in they ever corrected their unrealistic numbers or ever started to lose weight again.
What do you want people to say? That you can continue to do something that isn't working and get a different result? Or do you want people's permission to give up?
I really don't know what you hope to get out of this.
The bike may say 1,000 calories in an hour. It's just phenomenally unlikely that this is correct. 2,000 calories of exercise? That's like hiking the Bright Angel Trail (South Rm to Indian Gardens) EVERY SINGLE DAY and then doing another couple of flat miles on top of that!
That's like a 200-lb person walking at a BRISK pace on a level surface for SIX AND A HALF HOURS A DAY and covering nearly twenty miles!
That's a 4-hour, 50+ mile bike ride for that same person.0 -
booksandchocolate12 wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »I'm still just not believing those exercise numbers. Very, very, very few people could do 2000 calories of exercise day in and day out.
Professional athletes don't do that consistently, every day.
I agree with you, but the OP is not budging on that. I think she's looking for a reason that doesn't indicate that she's eating too much and/or over-estimating her burns.
Well, the other alternative is that she's dying from kidney failure.
She can pick which one to believe.
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MamaBirdBoss wrote: »booksandchocolate12 wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »I'm still just not believing those exercise numbers. Very, very, very few people could do 2000 calories of exercise day in and day out.
Professional athletes don't do that consistently, every day.
I agree with you, but the OP is not budging on that. I think she's looking for a reason that doesn't indicate that she's eating too much and/or over-estimating her burns.
Well, the other alternative is that she's dying from kidney failure.
She can pick which one to believe.
Ha! You know, there probably are people out there who would pick "kidney failure", because it would absolve them of any personal responsibility.
Hopefully the OP isn't like that.
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General tips to simplifying weight loss:
- Figure out your calorie needs at rest (Harris Benedict, Katch McArdle - whatever it is, pick one and stick with it); subtract 500 cals to aim for for 1lb weight loss per week
- Update the above equation every 10lbs lost because calorie needs keep going down as you lose weight
- Track all food intake - absolutely everything; if you can't track it, don't eat it
- Eat simple, whole foods such as vegetables and lean meats - 1 ingredient only (the food itself) or don't eat it
- Drink only water, unsweetened black tea, unsweetened black coffee - no Splenda, no nothing
- Exercise if you want, it's not required
- If you DO exercise, you need to be damn sure what the calorie expenditure is
- If you DO exercise, eat back your exercise calories following the rules here
- If you DO exercise, only do it when you feel rested, never when you feel "over exercised"
- Get enough sleep every day - 7 to 9 hours for nearly every adult on the planet
- Get a good, simple scale and weigh yourself every single morning, naked, after elimination - track this on MFP every day
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You're way overestimating calories burned on the exercising bike IMO. I burn 200 in one hour going at 16mph (after which my legs are dead weight). I'm 37 and 133 pounds.0
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snickerscharlie wrote: »
What is this gizmo of which you speak?onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »I have a gizmo that helps remove water retention so I use those, so water should not be a problem.
What gizmo? Also, there is no way you're burning a 1000 calories in 40 minutes. If you're not losing, it's because you're not in a deficit and inaccurately giving yourself 500 calories in exercise is what's doing it.0 -
ghadanibdazgur wrote: »When going into starvation mode, your body signals that food is scarce and stores every piece of fat you eat, this is slow metabolism. When you eat healthy every three hours or so, the mind signals that food is in abundance and no need to store fat so you lose weight. This is a fast metabilism.
This is BS and annoying whenever somebody suggests it. No such thing as starvation mode.0 -
OP how much do you weigh, whats your height and age? I find it hard to believe you burn 1000 calories in 40 minutes thats virtually impossible and even top athletes wouldnt be able to burn at that rate. You however are telling us you can, so Id treat that with caution. Give us the info and ill have a look.
How fast are you going, what distance do you travel in those 40 minutes and how much wattage are you generating?
You do realise the machine is likely to be inaccurate?
Its possible to burn 1000 calories in an hour but youd have to be a top athlete.
When people say they are not losing its down to them being at maintenance, patience notwithstanding.0 -
seansquared wrote: »General tips to simplifying weight loss:
- Figure out your calorie needs at rest (Harris Benedict, Katch McArdle - whatever it is, pick one and stick with it); subtract 500 cals to aim for for 1lb weight loss per week
- Update the above equation every 10lbs lost because calorie needs keep going down as you lose weight
- Track all food intake - absolutely everything; if you can't track it, don't eat it
- Eat simple, whole foods such as vegetables and lean meats - 1 ingredient only (the food itself) or don't eat it
- Drink only water, unsweetened black tea, unsweetened black coffee - no Splenda, no nothing
- Exercise if you want, it's not required
- If you DO exercise, you need to be damn sure what the calorie expenditure is
- If you DO exercise, eat back your exercise calories following the rules here
- If you DO exercise, only do it when you feel rested, never when you feel "over exercised"
- Get enough sleep every day - 7 to 9 hours for nearly every adult on the planet
- Get a good, simple scale and weigh yourself every single morning, naked, after elimination - track this on MFP every day
I'm ok with this list other than #4 and #5. Completely unnecessary.
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