:-( Less calories, more exercise ≠loose weight!! :-(
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LLnotURmommaLL wrote: »Didn't see one useful answer to her question. You automatically assume she hasn't logged her calories right. I lost 45 lbs in 9 months, hit a plateau and have now gained back 14 lbs. Yes I weight my food, I haven't changed the the type of foods I eat, don't snack & swim 3 days a week. My calorie is 1200 per day but often eat less. I've dieted for two years but have been at my current weight for the last six months. I have no intentions to change my calorie intake but have no expectations that my weight will change. So I would appreciate it if you have no useful suggestions for this lady don't say anything.
Funny? So where is your answer to the OP question?
Why don't you worry about your own self and nobody else.
Also (bold) that is not how the real world works.
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onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »≠ means not equal to....
Just need to AHHHHAHAHH!!
Ok so I reduced calories.... upped my movement... loss very very slow.
Gained access to an exercise bike :-) found it easer to use up calories... lost a few more lbs...
then it stopped... thought ok been though this before where its a sticking point...
Carried on, used the exercise bike more than I thought I could :-)
Loose more weight - no
Friend looked into it and may need to up calories (roll eyes) the starvation mode thing
- so I am now gaining weight! and gaining more than is logical for what I am eating!
Why why why is this so complicated all I want to do is loose the excess fat, tone up and get in my old clothes.
This should be simple, eat less (cut out treats) and move more BUT its NOT that simple!!
Why do programs show that when they have a group of people and do this for them it works but when I try it, its a mess!
Any ideas.... could this be a
- not loosing for a while but keep strict
- starvation mode need to have more calories and it will drop off
- something else
REALLY fed up! Experienced help appreciated... esp if there is a 6 week plan as that is one of my key dates!
Do you weigh your foods on a food scale that measures in grams & ounces? If not then go buy one since it's the easiest way you make sure you're accurately measuring your food intake. You would be surprised at how small a portion is of certain things like cereal (used to fill it to the brim), ice cream, peanut butter, salad dressing (I actually don't mind not smothering all of my lettuce in dressing now), & accurately weighing pasta/rice.
How many calories do you eat?
Not to be mean, but I doubt you actually burn 1,000 calories by using your exercise bike. Machines are notorious at overestimating your burns since it doesn't know your height, weight, heart beats per minute, etc. If you want to be more accurate with your calorie burn then you should invest in a heart rate monitor with a chest strap (these are more accurate but not 100%). If you're eating your calories back & grossly overestimating them then that could explain why you're gaining some of your weight.
Starvation mode doesn't exist, because if it did then how do you explain people dying in Africa?0 -
CarlFenech wrote: »When going into starvation mode, your body signals that food is scarce and stores every piece of fat you eat, this is slow metabolism. When you eat healthy every three hours or so, the mind signals that food is in abundance and no need to store fat so you lose weight. This is a fast metabilism.
No. This is not true.
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LLnotURmommaLL wrote: »Didn't see one useful answer to her question. You automatically assume she hasn't logged her calories right. I lost 45 lbs in 9 months, hit a plateau and have now gained back 14 lbs. Yes I weight my food, I haven't changed the the type of foods I eat, don't snack & swim 3 days a week. My calorie is 1200 per day but often eat less. I've dieted for two years but have been at my current weight for the last six months. I have no intentions to change my calorie intake but have no expectations that my weight will change. So I would appreciate it if you have no useful suggestions for this lady don't say anything.
Yeah, no. You might have an underlying medical condition, or there's something wrong with your logging. There are only two possible answers to the scale failing to move. Something's wonky on the CI side of the equation, or something's wonky on the CO side of the equation.
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onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »Firstly
Thank you to all those that have taken the time to reply :-) I can appreciate how busy every one is.
I cut my calories to 1200ish... I don't cook with oil etc, cant stand peanut butter. Learnt on the first day not to eat baked potato and butter lol!!
Using the exercise bike I managed to use up at least 1000 calories a day (give or take 10% what the bike said and what other info sites said varied) Some days I managed over 2000 ((give or take 10% ) a few days I missed (as per other posts caused terrible piles - thank goodness for medication).
I was just so pleased I had found something I could do, make it fit into my time and felt I had accomplished something.
No weight loss for a few weeks.
Yes it could be time of the month... addressed water retention and over night gained 4 lbs!! (the day before did about 1500 on the bike)
Amazingly I did not feel that hungry after doing the morning cycle (varied minimum of 500 calories and often used up 1000 give or take 10% ) so often did not eat until later which helped me keep the calories low. Have tried (pain in bottom depending) on doing at least 500 calories 2 - 4 times a day...
Yes I have scales and learnt how much was 50g of cereal and 80g of milk. Tend to keep to a big salad in the evening and can then easily weigh the protein. Yes I know a tomato is X and 6 slices of cucumber is Y etc :-)
Yes it may be medical as my body is very messed up - which will not help, and not going into details.
SO just back to the 1200 (ignore this starvation thing) and keep cycling and hope the plateau does not continue for much longer, surely something has to give! :-)
I can appreciate you wanting to keep medical issues private. One thing to keep in mind, though, is that for some conditions, certain diets (like low-carb) are probably a good idea. Some people who eat that way, because of those conditions, have great difficulty losing weight any other way.
One thing that jumped out at me were your exercise burns. They seem... excessive. Are you eating back your exercise calories?
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LLnotURmommaLL wrote: »Didn't see one useful answer to her question. You automatically assume she hasn't logged her calories right. I lost 45 lbs in 9 months, hit a plateau and have now gained back 14 lbs. Yes I weight my food, I haven't changed the the type of foods I eat, don't snack & swim 3 days a week. My calorie is 1200 per day but often eat less. I've dieted for two years but have been at my current weight for the last six months. I have no intentions to change my calorie intake but have no expectations that my weight will change. So I would appreciate it if you have no useful suggestions for this lady don't say anything.
There are useful answers here. The majority of the time people who claim not to be losing are not tracking their calorie intake correctly. It's a safe assumption. I don't understand why you're getting all bent out of shape over it. The OP was asked if she weighs her food and logs accurately. That's the best way to tell how much you're actually eating.
Lastly, you're on a public forum on the internet, so what you appreciate or don't appreciate doesn't really matter.
Well said @JSurita20 -
90% of the time when people aren't losing weight, it's because they are eating too much.
Accurate logging is essential.
Whether you believe in Adaptive Thermogenesis or not is irrelevant. If it's true it might mean you have to eat 300-400 calories less a day.
Bottom line is, if you aren't losing, you've got to eat less, or exercise more.
Accurate logging is the key.0 -
If you are insistent that you're accurately logging your foods, then I believe you're overstating your exercise burns.
Correct me if I am wrong, but you say you're burning 1000-2000 a day on top of your BMR?0 -
If you are insistent that you're accurately logging your foods, then I believe you're overstating your exercise burns.
Correct me if I am wrong, but you say you're burning 1000-2000 a day on top of your BMR?
I row 9.5km a day most days and barely crack 500 cals.
Also, I am losing weight still because I am burning more than I am eating. I must be a magic sneuxflake or something.
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Yeah, I think your exercise burn estimation is easily double and then some of what you are actually burning...if you are eating back those cals, that may be part of your issue. I'd also suggest mixing up your workouts a bit as well, after all that cycling on a stationary bike, your body has probably become very efficient (as in, burns fewer calories) riding that bike. Add some strength training and perhaps some other kinds of cardio...jogging or brisk walking, swimming, dancing like an idiot when you think nobody's looking (maybe that's just me....)0
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HeySwoleSister wrote: »Yeah, I think your exercise burn estimation is easily double and then some of what you are actually burning...if you are eating back those cals, that may be part of your issue. I'd also suggest mixing up your workouts a bit as well, after all that cycling on a stationary bike, your body has probably become very efficient (as in, burns fewer calories) riding that bike. Add some strength training and perhaps some other kinds of cardio...jogging or brisk walking, swimming, dancing like an idiot when you think nobody's looking (maybe that's just me....)
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Again thank you for your feedback.
Keeping calm... I am NOT eating LOTS and lying to myself... I have kept the food down. I know what I am and not eating, using scales and the calorie counts on packaging (keeping in mind they can be out by 40% according to one programme).
According to the exercise bike I am burning 1100 x2 a day and cross ref with a computer programme that is +/_ 10%.
(this week I doubled the bike from about 45 mins, 1000 calories claimed to x 2 a day) has made no difference to weight loss.)
(a few weeks ago I doubled the level which was not as bad as I thought, but again have lost nothing in that time!)
If I use up about 1000 a day in everyday living and then an additional 2000 (excluding the aledged after burn) and a few eggs, veg soup n salad is not 3000.
Currently I, and now my other 1/2 is defying the laws of physics as they have not lost weight in many weeks either!
I would imagine after all these weeks that the fat that was on my legs has hopefully turned to muscle and yes that will weigh more but again after all these weeks surely I must be loosing somewhere.
It makes NO sense to weigh before sleep and then wake a few more lbs in the morning!! (same scales used on the same place on the floor)
I have not gone down to eat in middle of the night and not known about it as the house alarm would be set off.
(my weight goes up and down around 3 lbs but never below the plateau of the lowest.)
mixing it up would be nice however there I little that can be done.
jogging is out- various reasons
anything with weight/stretching to the arms and torso is out
swimming is out due to cost and time
walking briskly is out as can only walk slowly with a little one and I don't have access to childcare to be able to go out on my own during the day.
Thank you all for your guesses.... and feedback however now can I only have feedback from those that have been though this.... how long it took to get though a plateau, ideas to break the plateau and keeping sane in the mean time.
In a few weeks I will not have access to the exercise bike and I am really really worried what weight I will put on as I have not lost it with using it!! :-(
Speaking to others some people don't loose for a month!! (the last time I tried this it was one week loose one week not - regardless of what I did or did not do). That being born female its harder. ... taking advise I am now having breakfast. For one person they did not loose if they did not eat breakfast - made no difference to me :-(
I can now see why people become obsessed when there is no logic to what is going on!0 -
onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »Again thank you for your feedback.
Currently I, and now my other 1/2 is defying the laws of physics as they have not lost weight in many weeks either!
I would imagine after all these weeks that the fat that was on my legs has hopefully turned to muscle and yes that will weigh more but again after all these weeks surely I must be loosing somewhere.
It makes NO sense to weigh before sleep and then wake a few more lbs in the morning!! (same scales used on the same place on the floor)
I have not gone down to eat in middle of the night and not known about it as the house alarm would be set off.
(my weight goes up and down around 3 lbs but never below the plateau of the lowest.)
Could your scale need new batteries?
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I think a lot of us have been through the dreaded plataue at one time or another.
The only suggestions i can give you is halve the burns your exercise bike is giving you, and meticulously weigh, measure and log EVERYTHING that passes your lips. Keep it simple and honest for now.
If doing these 2 things don't start yielding weight loss for you, then a doctors appointment might be in order.
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See a Dr. It sounds like you may be suffering from Metabolic Syndrome and it isn't as simple as calories in vs calories out.
You may be insulin resistant and eating a low fat higher carb diet that would make you gain weight.
Something is amiss if long term calorie deficits do not yeold weight loss.
Best wishes.
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Thank you to those that actually believe me.
Another interesting turn.... I have been ill for about a week.
Done NO exercise and my calories would have increased.... and my weight is roughly the same!!!
(I have surprised myself with how quickly the calories increased with the bike. I started doing about 15 mins. After doubling the level I can now get though 1000 in about 40 mins to an hour, depends what I watch! I have been doing that first thing before breakfast etc and then again in the evening, and at least one jealous witness lol!)
Batteries - yes have ordered more as they are running low, however a different scales say roughly the same (they only give st n lb with no extra oz)
Bizarre and ANNOYING as holiday in a few days and I cant fit in last years clothes
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ghadanibdazgur wrote: »When going into starvation mode, your body signals that food is scarce and stores every piece of fat you eat, this is slow metabolism. When you eat healthy every three hours or so, the mind signals that food is in abundance and no need to store fat so you lose weight. This is a fast metabilism.
This is really not how it works.0 -
I burn 5 calories a minute on an exercise bike. So an hour...is 300 calories. And that's on high intensity the entire time, which is difficult for me to do.0
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complete *kitten*ghadanibdazgur wrote: »When going into starvation mode, your body signals that food is scarce and stores every piece of fat you eat, this is slow metabolism. When you eat healthy every three hours or so, the mind signals that food is in abundance and no need to store fat so you lose weight. This is a fast metabilism.
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1. Starvation mode is a myth.
2. You say you're burning 1100 cals 2x day. Are you eating back these calories? There is no way you're burning that much, and if you're eating them back, there's your weight gain.0 -
There are lots of oddities apparent in your situation. Have you opened your diary so that the super knowledgeable here can take a look and give more specific feedback? Saying you are certain of your tracking, and not providing said tracking, are going to cause many to assume you are in error somewhere. Time to start removing variables, as it's truly unlikely that you are a biological anomaly.0
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onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »
(I have surprised myself with how quickly the calories increased with the bike. I started doing about 15 mins. After doubling the level I can now get though 1000 in about 40 mins to an hour, depends what I watch! I have been doing that first thing before breakfast
Bizarre and ANNOYING as holiday in a few days and I cant fit in last years clothes
I generally run about 10 miles per day. I run at roughly a 10 and a half mile pace and I barely burn 1000 calories in a full hour and a half of running. I don't think that your calorie burn of a thousand in 40 minutes 2 times a day is accurate. I do however believe that you feel that it's accurate, and that you're telling the truth when you say you burn this. I would definitely cut that exercise burn in at least half!
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1000 calories burned in 45 minutes? Nah. I'm quite fit and can keep up a high heart rate for extended periods of time, and I burn about 300 cals for 40 minutes of cycling.
Can you open your diary? It might help us pinpoint what's going on.0 -
onedayTHISYEAR wrote: »Again thank you for your feedback.
Keeping calm... I am NOT eating LOTS and lying to myself... I have kept the food down. I know what I am and not eating, using scales and the calorie counts on packaging (keeping in mind they can be out by 40% according to one programme).
According to the exercise bike I am burning 1100 x2 a day and cross ref with a computer programme that is +/_ 10%.
(this week I doubled the bike from about 45 mins, 1000 calories claimed to x 2 a day) has made no difference to weight loss.)
(a few weeks ago I doubled the level which was not as bad as I thought, but again have lost nothing in that time!)
If I use up about 1000 a day in everyday living and then an additional 2000 (excluding the aledged after burn) and a few eggs, veg soup n salad is not 3000.
Currently I, and now my other 1/2 is defying the laws of physics as they have not lost weight in many weeks either!
I would imagine after all these weeks that the fat that was on my legs has hopefully turned to muscle and yes that will weigh more but again after all these weeks surely I must be loosing somewhere.
It makes NO sense to weigh before sleep and then wake a few more lbs in the morning!! (same scales used on the same place on the floor)
I have not gone down to eat in middle of the night and not known about it as the house alarm would be set off.
(my weight goes up and down around 3 lbs but never below the plateau of the lowest.)
mixing it up would be nice however there I little that can be done.
jogging is out- various reasons
anything with weight/stretching to the arms and torso is out
swimming is out due to cost and time
walking briskly is out as can only walk slowly with a little one and I don't have access to childcare to be able to go out on my own during the day.
Thank you all for your guesses.... and feedback however now can I only have feedback from those that have been though this.... how long it took to get though a plateau, ideas to break the plateau and keeping sane in the mean time.
In a few weeks I will not have access to the exercise bike and I am really really worried what weight I will put on as I have not lost it with using it!! :-(
Speaking to others some people don't loose for a month!! (the last time I tried this it was one week loose one week not - regardless of what I did or did not do). That being born female its harder. ... taking advise I am now having breakfast. For one person they did not loose if they did not eat breakfast - made no difference to me :-(
I can now see why people become obsessed when there is no logic to what is going on!
Have you talked with your doctor? Something is off, somewhere, and your doctor may be able to help you figure it out whether it is your exercise, diet, another medical condition, etc. Losing weight shouldn't be that hard.0 -
I will tell you what worked for me and it goes against all conventional advice:
--For 4 days you eat at a deficit you pick the number 200, 500 or a 1000. Also go extremely low carb <50 grams.
--For the 2 days you eat at/near maintenance. Carbs below <100 grams.
--Last day you eat whatever you want preferably 500-1000 calories above maintenance. Really high carb.
Workouts:
--Cut workouts to 3 days a week
--For those 3 days you workout for 35-40 minutes max with high weights with 10-15 sec rests in between sets (keep lifting continuously for 30-35 mins do not stop even if your arms fall off)
--If you do cardio keep resistance at highest level if doing long duration (elliptical I keep at level 12 for 30 mins) or you can do HIIT. I do 1 day a week cardio maybe 2. Dont need it if you are busting your *kitten* with weights trust me that is enough cardio.
I was stuck at a weight for 3 weeks and this helped me lose 5 pounds in a week (last week) and overcome my plateau. I guess it was water weight but I will take whatever I can.0 -
If you could open your food diary it would be extremely helpful.
Also, I highly HIGHLY doubt that you are burning that much on a bike. Do you have a heart rate monitor you can use while on the bike?0 -
lemonlionheart wrote: »1000 calories burned in 45 minutes? Nah. I'm quite fit and can keep up a high heart rate for extended periods of time, and I burn about 300 cals for 40 minutes of cycling.
Yeah, this sounds right to me and is consistent with my experience.
If you are eating calories back and estimating them based on those numbers, that's the explanation.0 -
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