Yes, this is GROSS but can POO SWAPPING become an answer to our ''fat battle prayers''???
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arachnofobia7 wrote: »I've come across this idea some time ago and here is a link that sheds some light on the concept:
http://www.emaxhealth.com/8782/thin-people-poop-may-become-obesity-cure
Before the debate starts and I get accused of spreading some ''woo science'' around, I want to assure you that I follow the classic principle of CICO along with moderate but regular and consistent exercise regime. I am more than happy with results and I am not going to change much (though I think I should start lifting:))
HOWEVER - I always wondered, how comes that two siblings, following the same diet with similar activity level can be remotely different in terms of weight. For some time I was attached to the theory of ''body types'' which made sense to me, but as soon as I had mentioned it here I got told off:)
I'm sure that all of you know people who seem to be eating a lot but stay skinny and vice versa - the others ( like myself) keep absorbing fat from air ))
This is how I came across that theory that it might be due to more or less ''efficient'' bacterias living in our guts and swapping them over could solve our ''fat issues'' forever???
Have you heard of it? What do you think? Any professionals out there with some scientific/medical background to support/discredit the idea???
I have NEVER heard of swapping bacteria with a person that would have ANY positive affects on anything. with that said if you are concerned that your digestive bacteria are not working up to par you can always take an over the counter probiotic and if you don't see improvement you can go to the doctor and request a Rx. Now as far as siblings using nutrients differently that is due to the specific person. Each person has their own dna. their own body types, hormone levels etc. My twin daughters are 5 months old and almost 2 lbs apart in size with completely different fat ratios. Jossy is leaner and overall smaller. Eva is chunkier and overall heavier. they are fed the exact SAME give or take an ounce. It just happens. There are a ton of factors involved with fat burn,storage,loss. its best just not worry about how big or small your siblings may be and just worry on the improvement of you. Don't compare yourself. No offense to anyone but I will continue my struggle. they can keep their poop. I would rather not do something so grotesque, reckless and DANGEROUS. There are safer and better ways to achieve what that article is describing. one keeping your feces to yourself and receiving petre grown bacteria that does not have the dangerous potentially fatal bacteria along with it.0 -
Can I get a side of fries with that poop please and extra ketchup?0
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this related article was an intriguing read:
http://michaelpollan.com/articles-archive/some-of-my-best-friends-are-germs/
the topic has also been featured on a several popular podcasts over the last few years.0 -
arachnofobia7 wrote: »I've come across this idea some time ago and here is a link that sheds some light on the concept:
http://www.emaxhealth.com/8782/thin-people-poop-may-become-obesity-cure
Before the debate starts and I get accused of spreading some ''woo science'' around, I want to assure you that I follow the classic principle of CICO along with moderate but regular and consistent exercise regime. I am more than happy with results and I am not going to change much (though I think I should start lifting:))
HOWEVER - I always wondered, how comes that two siblings, following the same diet with similar activity level can be remotely different in terms of weight. For some time I was attached to the theory of ''body types'' which made sense to me, but as soon as I had mentioned it here I got told off:)
I'm sure that all of you know people who seem to be eating a lot but stay skinny and vice versa - the others ( like myself) keep absorbing fat from air ))
This is how I came across that theory that it might be due to more or less ''efficient'' bacterias living in our guts and swapping them over could solve our ''fat issues'' forever???
Have you heard of it? What do you think? Any professionals out there with some scientific/medical background to support/discredit the idea???
you first mention "body types" and the fact that you were "told off"
probably because the entire concept is a complete falsehood
and bacteria or not, CICO is still CICO, sorry to burst your bubble0 -
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asflatasapancake wrote: »How did I not know about this? Goodbye healthy diet and exercise. Hello poop swapping.
We should start a group where people can find their poop swap partner.0 -
I had a round of antibiotics hat upset my flora. I was fat before, and fat after. I have introduced multiple supposed good bacteria into my diet, to remedy my lack of good bacteria. It's been about 4 months and my Gut is still a mess.
Diet, MFP, and exercise is the only thing helping me to lose weight.0 -
I watched it... I don't think I'd be able to stomach the sequel though .0 -
missiontofitness wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »
I don't want anyone's poop anywhere near me, nor will I be offering up my poop to anyone else.
Oh, I will. If anyone wants my poop, it's yours for the low, low price of 9.99, plus shipping. Free local delivery!
I think there are already businesses where you can have poop delivered to people's doors...except it's cow poop, and you usually do it to someone you don't like.
Haha, I'd also wonder how legal that is...and those poor mailmen/FedEx drivers!
I asked at the Post Office today.
Mailing poo is not allowed. Kinda figured, but now I got it from the horse's mouth.0 -
Talk about grasping for magic cures. I'll continue to push myself to overcome my bad ingrained eating habits and focus on a deficit. You can go ahead and try to eat poo.
If the only way to lose weight was by eating feces (or trying to go through some medical procedure to put someone else's feces into my body), I'd be okay just staying fat at that point.0 -
I've heard of fecal transplants being used to treat C. Dif, and I wouldn't even want it for that. I'd have to be unconscious for them to even try it. As far as weight loss, I find diet and exercise to be far easier.0
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check this out: http://www.drperlmutter.com/explaining-fecal-transplant/0
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missiontofitness wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »
I don't want anyone's poop anywhere near me, nor will I be offering up my poop to anyone else.
Oh, I will. If anyone wants my poop, it's yours for the low, low price of 9.99, plus shipping. Free local delivery!
I think there are already businesses where you can have poop delivered to people's doors...except it's cow poop, and you usually do it to someone you don't like.
Haha, I'd also wonder how legal that is...and those poor mailmen/FedEx drivers!
I asked at the Post Office today.
Mailing poo is not allowed. Kinda figured, but now I got it from the horse's mouth.
haha well obviously they won't let you mail it if you ASK them0 -
We can change our own gut flora the things we eat. Taking prebiotics and probiotics and eating lots of organic vegetables are helpful. And certainly not forcing our bodies to digest loads and loads of food would help too, no? Why would you swap poo with someone? Why not just adopt a healthy lifestyle?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130528180900.htm0 -
arachnofobia7 wrote: »I've come across this idea some time ago and here is a link that sheds some light on the concept:
http://www.emaxhealth.com/8782/thin-people-poop-may-become-obesity-cure
Before the debate starts and I get accused of spreading some ''woo science'' around, I want to assure you that I follow the classic principle of CICO along with moderate but regular and consistent exercise regime. I am more than happy with results and I am not going to change much (though I think I should start lifting:))
HOWEVER - I always wondered, how comes that two siblings, following the same diet with similar activity level can be remotely different in terms of weight. For some time I was attached to the theory of ''body types'' which made sense to me, but as soon as I had mentioned it here I got told off:)
I'm sure that all of you know people who seem to be eating a lot but stay skinny and vice versa - the others ( like myself) keep absorbing fat from air ))
This is how I came across that theory that it might be due to more or less ''efficient'' bacterias living in our guts and swapping them over could solve our ''fat issues'' forever???
Have you heard of it? What do you think? Any professionals out there with some scientific/medical background to support/discredit the idea???
you first mention "body types" and the fact that you were "told off"
probably because the entire concept is a complete falsehood
and bacteria or not, CICO is still CICO, sorry to burst your bubble
Hey ho:) by no means there is nothing to burst! Right at the beginning I've pointed out that I follow the CICO concept and I'm more than happy with the results.
I can sign with both hands to that idea, but at the same time, since I'm rather curious person and even though I know that Earth is round I will go and try to find out why. It's nice to share ideas with likeminded people. Sharing ideas isn't equal to following them. It's a way to get nurtured and broaden horizons as long as one has open mind and tons of questions
Also there was no need to cite something that I had already admitted as false
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arachnofobia7 wrote: »arachnofobia7 wrote: »I've come across this idea some time ago and here is a link that sheds some light on the concept:
http://www.emaxhealth.com/8782/thin-people-poop-may-become-obesity-cure
Before the debate starts and I get accused of spreading some ''woo science'' around, I want to assure you that I follow the classic principle of CICO along with moderate but regular and consistent exercise regime. I am more than happy with results and I am not going to change much (though I think I should start lifting:))
HOWEVER - I always wondered, how comes that two siblings, following the same diet with similar activity level can be remotely different in terms of weight. For some time I was attached to the theory of ''body types'' which made sense to me, but as soon as I had mentioned it here I got told off:)
I'm sure that all of you know people who seem to be eating a lot but stay skinny and vice versa - the others ( like myself) keep absorbing fat from air ))
This is how I came across that theory that it might be due to more or less ''efficient'' bacterias living in our guts and swapping them over could solve our ''fat issues'' forever???
Have you heard of it? What do you think? Any professionals out there with some scientific/medical background to support/discredit the idea???
you first mention "body types" and the fact that you were "told off"
probably because the entire concept is a complete falsehood
and bacteria or not, CICO is still CICO, sorry to burst your bubble
Hey ho:) by no means there is nothing to burst! Right at the beginning I've pointed out that I follow the CICO concept and I'm more than happy with the results.
I can sign with both hands to that idea, but at the same time, since I'm rather curious person and even though I know that Earth is round I will go and try to find out why. It's nice to share ideas with likeminded people. Sharing ideas isn't equal to following them. It's a way to get nurtured and broaden horizons as long as one has open mind and tons of questions
Also there was no need to cite something that I had already admitted as false
I share ideas about delicious recipes and nice places to go for vacation. I'm curious to know why the sky is blue, why they put tags on mattresses, and what happened to the Mayans.
But this? This is just one of those things I could've went to the grave not knowing.
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I've seen it. It really wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Kind of stupid and corny. Like a really twisted Sharknado type of movie.
Yes, it's gross, but it was just dumb. And I'm not too big on scary movies - Paranormal Activity kept me awake for days.0 -
The only way I will ever consider a poop transplant is if I'm knocked on my @ss by a crippling C. diff infection that won't respond to conventional treatments.
For weight loss, I'll rely on CICO.0 -
I think its an interesting concept. The science following gut flora is finding interesting behavioral changes as well. Something about the excretions of bad bacteria poisoning our neurons. Some are theorizing that our foods contribute to our gut health and in turn can manipulate our thoughts and action. The mentally ill, autism and those going on mass murder sprees all just eating the wrong foods and overrun by bad bacteria, huh.
I am an open-minded person and will watch on the sidelines as new studies come out. As for having one of these transpooings, only if medically necessary.0 -
I know someone who had to do that. I don't know what their condition is, but they had to get some of their husbands poop transplanted into their body, their colon I guess, to try and promote the growth of good bacteria. I don't think it worked very well though. I guess it might technically be beneficial for weight loss, but um, not much chance realistically, no.0
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We can change our own gut flora the things we eat. Taking prebiotics and probiotics and eating lots of organic vegetables are helpful. And certainly not forcing our bodies to digest loads and loads of food would help too, no? Why would you swap poo with someone? Why not just adopt a healthy lifestyle?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130528180900.htm
when I was a kid my mother had me take probiotics every single day
now I just take sugar pills instead
much cheaper0 -
Aside from the obvious EW HELL NO THANK YOU, I had one other random thought occur to me as I read the posts in this thread... if you have actual gut fauna? You've got more problems than a poop transplant could solve.
(not meaning to pick on the other user, I just have a weird sense of humor and the visual struck me funny)0 -
Bacteria in the gut will change based on your diet. Change your diet, change your gut bacteria. It's really that simple. Skinny people don't have magic bacteria, they just eat different.0
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Not even a 25oz Lemon-Ade-Rita could make me reconsider this as a good idea.0
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I'm not even sure how to respond to this.0
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PeachyCarol wrote: »Aside from the obvious EW HELL NO THANK YOU, I had one other random thought occur to me as I read the posts in this thread... if you have actual gut fauna? You've got more problems than a poop transplant could solve.
(not meaning to pick on the other user, I just have a weird sense of humor and the visual struck me funny)
WHY AM I POOPING RACCONS AND DEER?
IS THAT A SQUIRREL?0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »Aside from the obvious EW HELL NO THANK YOU, I had one other random thought occur to me as I read the posts in this thread... if you have actual gut fauna? You've got more problems than a poop transplant could solve.
(not meaning to pick on the other user, I just have a weird sense of humor and the visual struck me funny)
WHY AM I POOPING RACCONS AND DEER?
IS THAT A SQUIRREL?
Make them cartoon characters for extra lols.
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PeachyCarol wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »Aside from the obvious EW HELL NO THANK YOU, I had one other random thought occur to me as I read the posts in this thread... if you have actual gut fauna? You've got more problems than a poop transplant could solve.
(not meaning to pick on the other user, I just have a weird sense of humor and the visual struck me funny)
WHY AM I POOPING RACCONS AND DEER?
IS THAT A SQUIRREL?
Make them cartoon characters for extra lols.
I tried to find a relevant picture/gif to insert here, but all I found was this:
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