Feel frustrated!
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I work 11 hours shifts as a nursery nurse so am on my feet all day and I don't add salt to anything and eat fresh vegetables.. And so your telling me the packet of ham is wrong? That's illegal in England so would a big company like tesco really get it that wrong?
Even foods like vegetables have sodium in them naturally. People are pointing this out because it signals that the particular entry for your vegetables may be incorrect if it is showing 0g of sodium.
And no one is saying the info on the package is wrong (it actually can be off by a % but there's no way for you to do anything about that). They are saying that:
- A serving will often be written in two ways: In weight, and in some other measurement (like cups or a count). Use weight, and verify that what you portioned out really does weigh that by weighing it yourself.
- Do not trust the scanner. It may not pull up the best entry. There may be 10 possible entries for that food item, and not all will be correct. You still need to verify that entry. Check it against the package in your hands, the USDA website, the manufacturer website, whatever you need to do.
- Don't ever skip logging days or meals or bites or cooking oil or anything. Always do your best to fill out your log, as accurately as you can.
And as an aside: You don't NEED to eat a serving. Like if "a serving" of ham is 50 g and you pull out 5 slices and they weigh 55 g, there is no harm in eating the 55 g, just log it. No need to try to cut off 5 g (though you can if you'd like to).
Also, you started on June 7? Give it a bit more time, and get past 1 menstrual cycle, before you get too frustrated. It's not a bad idea to go through your logging, but also, it's not even quite been 2 weeks, so it's a bit early to conclude that you aren't in a deficit at all.0 -
The point here is that the 'one slice' could vary in its weight every time: one time youcould get a slice at 30g, the next ttime it could be a bit chunkier and weigh several grams more. The labels on packets telling you 'this slice is x amount' are approximations, guidelines if you will. You need to be measuring in grams to be truly accurate.0 -
Is that the same ham as this? http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=268333662
Because then it'd be 70 calories per 50 g, not 60. Not that that is a huge discrepancy, but it's just to show you that you need to *carefully verify* the information you find, even (especially?) in the MFP database. There's nothing about any entry in MFP that guarantees full accuracy. (Though you can see if others have confirmed the details, which can be helpful in a pinch.)
This is especially important if you're repeatedly logging the same foods, as you're getting that error every time you log that food if you use the same entry every time.0 -
Just can't do this.. Have just eaten what I logged and even if it was 200 cals more I would still be in deficit
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And I had my thyroid checked 6 months ago and all was okay0
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futuremanda wrote: »
Is that the same ham as this? http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=268333662
Because then it'd be 70 calories per 50 g, not 60. Not that that is a huge discrepancy, but it's just to show you that you need to *carefully verify* the information you find, even (especially?) in the MFP database. There's nothing about any entry in MFP that guarantees full accuracy. (Though you can see if others have confirmed the details, which can be helpful in a pinch.)
This is especially important if you're repeatedly logging the same foods, as you're getting that error every time you log that food if you use the same entry every time.
It's
12 calories per 10g.. 50g would therefore be 60 calories which is what I weigh out every day
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thats the point it can be way over 200 wrong
those tesco mixed veggies you logged for 175 = 65 calories
i looked those up too 100 gram is 60 calories so 175 gram = not 65 but 105 calories
Now this is just one item!!!!! 40 calories wrong a day is for ten days 400 calories...ONE item!!!
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Why the .
And I had 150g not 175
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futuremanda wrote: »
Is that the same ham as this? http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=268333662
Because then it'd be 70 calories per 50 g, not 60. Not that that is a huge discrepancy, but it's just to show you that you need to *carefully verify* the information you find, even (especially?) in the MFP database. There's nothing about any entry in MFP that guarantees full accuracy. (Though you can see if others have confirmed the details, which can be helpful in a pinch.)
This is especially important if you're repeatedly logging the same foods, as you're getting that error every time you log that food if you use the same entry every time.
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12 calories per 10g.. 50g would therefore be 60 calories which is what I weigh out every day
12 calories per 10g according to the package, or according to the entry that comes up when you scan the package?0 -
The acctual packet , what is on the back0
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Why the .
And I had 150g not 175
This is not 150 gram to me...you logged it!
And i saw some rice that is really low in calories to me.
But really i dont do this to patronize you
Just showing you that you can be wrong without knowing it.
But like i said before i am outta here
Going to cook
Wish you luck
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...It's been 12 days. If you're doing everything right and nothing is medically wrong, you beed to just chill out and give it more time. Water retention from exercise, TOM, or sodium could be masking weight loss. Also, it's been 12 days. Weight loss isn't always linear.0
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You "earn" calories by exercising. MFP makes adjustments which add to the total calories you can eat (goal calories minus what you've eaten plus "MFP adjustment" for exercise) the result at the right is a positive number if you ate less, a negative number if you over-ate.
What I'm saying is that the adjustment MFP makes for exercise is probably overstated. If you cut that adjustment by 25-50%, you'll be sure not to overeat. So for example:
if MFP says 1,600 - 2,100 + 500 = 0 calories, then
Recalculate at 75%:
1,600 - 2,100 + 375 = -125 calories over
Recalculate at 50%:
1,600 - 2,100 + 250 = -250 calories over
Cheers and don't give up!0 -
Right.. Okay.. I just wonder if I'm just meant to be fat and just give up feeling very lost and low 0
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Right.. Okay.. I just wonder if I'm just meant to be fat and just give up feeling very lost and low
Giving up is how you get bigger (been there, done that).
I would start over. Get on the computer and check every single entry you use. Try to prepare your own food from scratch - do a bulk cook on a weekend perhaps - instead of relying on lots of packaged food that comes with excess salt/unnecessary additives etc.
Be consistent and accurate with your logging and measuring/eating. Give it time! Stress less - worrying isn't going to help you.0 -
Right.. Okay.. I just wonder if I'm just meant to be fat and just give up feeling very lost and low
I wouldnt worry about the Ham. Its likely one of those 100-120gm packs of wafer thing ham. Its irrlevant of one clice varies because all 10 will average out. its very low calorie anyway so some of you getting your knickers in a twist really arent seeing the bigger picture.
OP you need to change your attitude, worry less and not give in. Its all a bit woe is me and negative thinking. Its only 12 days. The reasons you arent losing are either.
1. You are eating more than you think. Its the most common reason and where not losing is an issue then everyone that comes to this site is told to check and weigh.
Look at Vismals explanation.http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1296011/calorie-counting-101/p1
The inaccurate calories can add up.
2. You are burning less than you think. If you are eating back exercise calories, especially ones given by MFP then you may be overestimating how much you are burning and eating back calories you havent earned.
3.If you are correct on what you are and what you burn then the math is wrong and you havent calculated a traget thats at deficit. Considering your weight at nearly 200, stated calorie allowance and height, then I think we can rule that one out.
4. Weight loss isnt linear, so you just need to be patient . 12 days is no time at all.
5. You have some sort of medical condition that makes it more difficyl to lose. Go and see a Dr, bt this is prety rare becayse its normally 1 or 2.
Give up if you like, but that doesnt get you where you wnat to go. If you really wnat to get rid of the excess weight then you wont give in but you will get smart and work out how to get past the current delay. It may require you to eat less by being more accurate, burn more by moving more or simply be patient. If you ive in its becayse you dont wnat to lose badly enough and you let your fears get the better of you. There are many examples on the success pages of people who worked for many months or years to get to their target. You choose whether you wnat to be one of them.0 -
The other part of the equation is learning to control stress. Sleep is an important part of this.0
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Sorry for the nefativity but I have tried every diet for the past 2 years and got nowhere.. Just feel lost is all0
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What macros should I use?
Should I eat calories event from my Fitbit readings?
I use MFP's default protein & fiber goals as minimums, and ignore fat & carbs. It'll take trial & error to find what works for you.
Your Fitbit burn is TDEE, the calories necessary to maintain your current weight. If (and only if) you enable negative calorie adjustments in your diary settings, eating back your Fitbit adjustments means you're eating TDEE minus deficit.
You can learn more in the Fitbit Users group: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1290-fitbit-users0 -
Looks about right, actually. This is a common food in the UK - wafer thin, honey roast ham. All the supermarkets carry their own brand version, but it's probably from the same place. Works out at about 11-12 calories a slice usually. I use it a lot, and usually weigh it - the slices end up being really regularly sized.
As to what the problem is, I have no clue. Bodies are weird. If you are sure your logging is right (and really, just find - or add to the database yourself - the entries that let you put in a number of grams rather than shaving bits off your servings to make them fit!) then carry on with what you are doing and sit it out.
I had almost a month recently where I was doing what I always did, but my losses slowed to about a third of what they had been. There were all sorts of possible reasons - water, back up poop, sluggish digestive system, whoosh fairy, body sick of the deficit after 6 months. I dunno. It picked up again eventually. I knocked another 100 calories off my allowance and added an evening walk. Oh, and had a day going completely mental on carbs - the next day everything started moving at pace again. But correlation is not causation. It was just a sort of a stall. And this might be for you.
Give it another week or three. And then really start examining what might be going on. Because it may be hormonal.0 -
Looks about right, actually. This is a common food in the UK - wafer thin, honey roast ham. All the supermarkets carry their own brand version, but it's probably from the same place. Works out at about 11-12 calories a slice usually. I use it a lot, and usually weigh it - the slices end up being really regularly sized.
As to what the problem is, I have no clue. Bodies are weird. If you are sure your logging is right (and really, just find - or add to the database yourself - the entries that let you put in a number of grams rather than shaving bits off your servings to make them fit!) then carry on with what you are doing and sit it out.
I had almost a month recently where I was doing what I always did, but my losses slowed to about a third of what they had been. There were all sorts of possible reasons - water, back up poop, sluggish digestive system, whoosh fairy, body sick of the deficit after 6 months. I dunno. It picked up again eventually. I knocked another 100 calories off my allowance and added an evening walk. Oh, and had a day going completely mental on carbs - the next day everything started moving at pace again. But correlation is not causation. It was just a sort of a stall. And this might be for you.
Give it another week or three. And then really start examining what might be going on. Because it may be hormonal.
This. It's only been 12 days.0 -
Woah people need to calm down here. Getting upset over some ham, which personally looks accurate to me. I think OP is getting discouraged because people here are just assuming it must be a food measurement issue (which it often is but not always).
OP personally I think you are doing fine. I don't think it's a measurement's problem. I think it simply hasnt been long enough to really tell if it's working.
However, I looked through your dairy and there are a couple entries that strike me as potential problems. One Sunday you only tracked breakfast? Did you go off your diet this day?
If so, I would suggest even if you go off your diet on a day, still try and track as best as you can. I find this way you are less likely to go overboard with it. It will help open your eyes to how many calories can be eaten on a "cheat" day when you aren't paying attention. Its really easy to blow your whole weeks deficit on one day!
Also, on one night it said you had "Chinese beef and mushroom". Was this from an actual chinese takeaway/restaurant, if so I think the calories are a wee bit underestimated? I would try and overestimate if you get takeaway as they are often very calorific! I often just put a bare minimum of 1000 for a standard takeaway to be on the safe side. Another thing I would suggest, if you do feel like a meal out etc, I would try and walk some more before and after if you have time.
I believe you said you have a fitbit? I have one too! I would say focus on gradually building up steps, trying to beat your weekly and daily records! Even if its only an extra 10 minute walk a day at first. It will all help and you will feel good from all the walking. And you can also get more calories to eat that day.
I'd say give it another 3 or 4 weeks and see how it goes. The reason you aren't losing could be a number of things, its a bit too early to say I think.
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Right.. Okay.. I just wonder if I'm just meant to be fat and just give up feeling very lost and low
Don't give up! I know you can do it, you just need to cut yourself a little slack and give it time. Diets never work, only a lifestyle change will last. By using MFP and trying to measure your intake as accurately and completely as you can, you will see results, I promise!
Do you have someone you know in RL who can be your eating buddy? Someone who will not jump down your throat every time you cheat on eating, but will cheer you on for every success no matter how small? Daily reinforcement and encouragement is important. If you don't have someone, then just keep posting here. I'll try to give you encouragement as often as I can.
We are all in this together!0 -
really frustrated with not losing.. My calorie goal is 1390 per day.. Can anyone suggest a good menu? As clearly what I'm doing is wrong.. Macros were set by MFP at 50% carbs 30% fat and 20% protein but I don't think this is right for me help!!!!!
Ya, I needed to up my protein and lower my carbs in order to feel satisfied and not have sugar cravings. I think I'm set at 40% carbs 35% fat and 35% protein.
I'm losing weight faster than when I did MFP in 2012 and wasn't thinking about protein, but it is entirely possible that I am also exercising more this time as well.
You can do this!
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Its not the bit of ham...i Just took the ham out as example.
When you go to the Tesco site you will see that there is something off with it
She also logs cups of rice. And other odd things
So the ham i took as example people to show her logging is off And she dont know or does this at purpose...it is the Tesco labeling probably.
That was what i was trying to make clear. I went to sites for her checked her entrees and there is a lot off ( generic ones etc)
But forget it. And i should have kept to my own principles...i'm outta here.
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I have a cup measure .. So I do sometimes have a cup of rice 0
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I have a cup measure .. So I do sometimes have a cup of rice
Yep. But a cup of rice is not as precise a measurement as weighing the rice. (And ideally weighing it dry and using an entry for dry, if you want to get best accuracy.)
Like if a serving size says "2 tbsp (30g)"? That sounds like 2 tbsp = 30 grams right? But it *actually might not* and the calories and other information is based on the 30 grams.
You're best off weighing the rice, and everything else except liquids.0 -
I believe in everything in moderation, but I would be dying if I were trying to survive on your diet. I'm sure it's because you're busy at work, but your nutrition...
On Tuesday, your dinner was chips and oreos, and your snack was chocolates... the bigger problem is that your body needs nutrients and volume, not just calories. Most days you have no fruits and vegetables.
I think of losing weight as a balancing act... Balancing low calorie items with high calorie items so that you can eat what you like while not feeling hungry (makes it easier long term).
I was also curious what you set your activity level at, and what you set as your goal per week (you might have mentioned this).
I would suggest sticking with weighing your foods and logging for the next 2 weeks to a month, and if the scale still hasn't moved at all and you are positive that your logging is accurate, then go see your doctor. Make sure that he checks your free T3 and free T4 levels along with TSH, and that all are within 'optimal' levels, not just 'in normal range'.
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My problem the past week has been money.. I was just trying to use up what was in the house as I had no money atall... I am writing a shopping list and have £40 to shop for the next week.. I'm going tomorrow and there is veg and fruit in there I know it's not been great but I do weigh and measure everything.. I will take on board about the cup.. It was dry weight rice but will weigh I future 0
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