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  • SharpTeeth
    SharpTeeth Posts: 22 Member
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.

    you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.

    I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.

    I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.

    ....... in 3, 2, 1
    Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen.

    To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.)
    Sugar is sugar. Nutrients that ACCOMPANY it would be the difference. Sugar cane and beets don't have much nutrient value, but are still "naturally" occurring in sugar.
    If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.
    Which is fine, but still correct information should be conveyed.
    I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.

    edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."
    Sp in other words you went into calorie deficit, which is the equation needed for weight loss. Less sugar meant less calories.

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    You seem really invested in my choices. Hm.

    Nutrients make the difference for me in terms of letting the sugar into my life, sure. I'd rather get my fiber, protein, and vitamins from natural foods than from processed ones. I will still make good choices in terms of what and how much of these nutrient-dense foods I eat.

    Less sugar in general means less calories. I try not to get the majority of my calories from carbs. Not spiking my blood sugar also means more energy on a consistent basis, and less cravings, which helps me be more in control.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
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    LauraAC12 wrote: »
    Josieqc wrote: »
    Hi! This is day 2 on my new sugar strike lifestyle. Would anyone be interested in joining me get rid of sugar in their diet once and for all?

    Just wanted to say good luck! Surprised by all the negative comments you have been getting, I would have thought people would be more supportive since they took the time to actually join the thread. Guess some people just have way too much time on their hands. Also odd they would assume you mean you are eliminating 'natural sugars' as well. All sugars ARE NOT created equal. I can eat sources of natural sugars all day....fruits and veggies etc, with no issues, but I am allergic to processed sugar, it basically makes me sick so I am going to slowly start working it out of my diet. I know I will never eliminate it, but at least I can take in less. So, best of luck!

    You are allergic to one sugar, but not the other, even though they are they are the same on a molecular level?

    That does not compute....


  • SharpTeeth
    SharpTeeth Posts: 22 Member
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    auddii wrote: »
    SharpTeeth wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.

    you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.

    I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.

    I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
    Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.

    I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.

    Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.
    I suppose I'm learning about the community, haha. I did say "added sugars" in my original post?

    I also find myself needing less of a sweet when I do have one. What sort of "quality sweet" are we talking? I can't say no to a good piece of coconut cake, myself.

    I love a serving of good gelato or well made ice cream, or a square or two of good chocolate. When I first saw what an actual serving of ice cream/gelato looked like it seemed so small. Now I splurge on good quality and savor the complex flavors. Mmm...
    I keep saying dairy as an example of a nutrient-dense food, but actually I'm allergic to it x) I developed my allergy in my early 20s, like many people of Asian descent do. I miss the hell out of good gelato!
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.

    you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.

    I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.

    I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.

    ....... in 3, 2, 1
    Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen.

    To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.) If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.

    I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.

    edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."

    You mentioned breakfast cereal being a biggie. While the cereal that I eat has 14g of sugar I think that is offset by the other vitamins and minerals that I get...iron being a biggie for me. I just wasn't getting enough through foods where it occurs naturally.

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    I think we have to weigh the trade offs...for me it is worth the added sugar.
  • SharpTeeth
    SharpTeeth Posts: 22 Member
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    Annie_01 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.

    you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.

    I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.

    I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.

    ....... in 3, 2, 1
    Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen.

    To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.) If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.

    I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.

    edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."

    You mentioned breakfast cereal being a biggie. While the cereal that I eat has 14g of sugar I think that is offset by the other vitamins and minerals that I get...iron being a biggie for me. I just wasn't getting enough through foods where it occurs naturally.

    ggbyz7qma4j9.gif

    I think we have to weigh the trade offs...for me it is worth the added sugar.

    We all make our own choices, depending on what is right for us. For me, I personally wouldn't eat that, because it has four different kinds of added sugar. I replaced such cereals with oatmeal or shredded wheat on occasion. I'm not saying what I do is a mandate or judgment of others, though. My mother starts her day with Honey Bunches of Oats, which is similar, and she considers it both a healthy breakfast and a treat. I think that's nice. Just personally, I will take my treat elsewhere. I'm definitely with you regarding trade-offs.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
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    SharpTeeth wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    SharpTeeth wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.

    you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.

    I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.

    I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
    Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.

    I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.

    Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.
    I suppose I'm learning about the community, haha. I did say "added sugars" in my original post?

    I also find myself needing less of a sweet when I do have one. What sort of "quality sweet" are we talking? I can't say no to a good piece of coconut cake, myself.

    I love a serving of good gelato or well made ice cream, or a square or two of good chocolate. When I first saw what an actual serving of ice cream/gelato looked like it seemed so small. Now I splurge on good quality and savor the complex flavors. Mmm...
    I keep saying dairy as an example of a nutrient-dense food, but actually I'm allergic to it x) I developed my allergy in my early 20s, like many people of Asian descent do. I miss the hell out of good gelato!

    There is also sorbetto and I've heard that so delicious have good non-dairy desserts (although I have not tried those).

    Talenti has a few sorbettos and I'm sure there are other brands: http://www.talentigelato.com/our-products/
  • TheVirgoddess
    TheVirgoddess Posts: 4,535 Member
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    More for me!

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    In all seriousness, cutting out sugar is not a miracle fix for weight loss or health though. That said, if you feel like it's what you want/need to do - I wish you the best. Good luck!
  • SharpTeeth
    SharpTeeth Posts: 22 Member
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    auddii wrote: »
    SharpTeeth wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    SharpTeeth wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.

    you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.

    I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.

    I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
    Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.

    I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.

    Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.
    I suppose I'm learning about the community, haha. I did say "added sugars" in my original post?

    I also find myself needing less of a sweet when I do have one. What sort of "quality sweet" are we talking? I can't say no to a good piece of coconut cake, myself.

    I love a serving of good gelato or well made ice cream, or a square or two of good chocolate. When I first saw what an actual serving of ice cream/gelato looked like it seemed so small. Now I splurge on good quality and savor the complex flavors. Mmm...
    I keep saying dairy as an example of a nutrient-dense food, but actually I'm allergic to it x) I developed my allergy in my early 20s, like many people of Asian descent do. I miss the hell out of good gelato!

    There is also sorbetto and I've heard that so delicious have good non-dairy desserts (although I have not tried those).

    Talenti has a few sorbettos and I'm sure there are other brands: http://www.talentigelato.com/our-products/

    I was not aware that Talenti has sorbettos. Gorgeous!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,565 Member
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    SharpTeeth wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.

    you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.

    I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.

    I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.

    ....... in 3, 2, 1
    Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen.

    To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.)
    Sugar is sugar. Nutrients that ACCOMPANY it would be the difference. Sugar cane and beets don't have much nutrient value, but are still "naturally" occurring in sugar.
    If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.
    Which is fine, but still correct information should be conveyed.
    I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.

    edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."
    Sp in other words you went into calorie deficit, which is the equation needed for weight loss. Less sugar meant less calories.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    You seem really invested in my choices. Hm.

    Nutrients make the difference for me in terms of letting the sugar into my life, sure. I'd rather get my fiber, protein, and vitamins from natural foods than from processed ones. I will still make good choices in terms of what and how much of these nutrient-dense foods I eat.

    Less sugar in general means less calories. I try not to get the majority of my calories from carbs. Not spiking my blood sugar also means more energy on a consistent basis, and less cravings, which helps me be more in control.
    Lol, no not your choices, but your answers. The reality is that sugar is sugar and the main concern for most would be the total consumption. Getting it from natural or processed foods is a preference, but over consumption can happen from either.
    One can eat well 80% of the time and eat processed non nutrient dense foods 20% and still be healthy. Look at Asians overseas. Processed carbs aren't keeping them thin (white rice). Eating small portions are.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
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    LauraAC12 wrote: »
    Josieqc wrote: »
    Hi! This is day 2 on my new sugar strike lifestyle. Would anyone be interested in joining me get rid of sugar in their diet once and for all?

    Just wanted to say good luck! Surprised by all the negative comments you have been getting, I would have thought people would be more supportive since they took the time to actually join the thread. Guess some people just have way too much time on their hands. Also odd they would assume you mean you are eliminating 'natural sugars' as well. All sugars ARE NOT created equal. I can eat sources of natural sugars all day....fruits and veggies etc, with no issues, but I am allergic to processed sugar, it basically makes me sick so I am going to slowly start working it out of my diet. I know I will never eliminate it, but at least I can take in less. So, best of luck!
    You might be allergic to something in the assembly that processes food into sugar, but there is no way you are allergic to prcoessed sugar while not allergic to 'natural sugar'. They're the exact same molecule. It is physically impossible to differentiate them.
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
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    [quote="auddii;33246517"]
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.

    you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.

    I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.

    I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
    Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.

    I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.

    Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.[/quote]

    I think the confusion is coming from that this poster was not the original poster. The OP used the term "sugar strike".



  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    No thanks. Sugar fuels awesome things.
  • SharpTeeth
    SharpTeeth Posts: 22 Member
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    SharpTeeth wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.

    you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.

    I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.

    I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.

    ....... in 3, 2, 1
    Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen.

    To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.)
    Sugar is sugar. Nutrients that ACCOMPANY it would be the difference. Sugar cane and beets don't have much nutrient value, but are still "naturally" occurring in sugar.
    If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.
    Which is fine, but still correct information should be conveyed.
    I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.

    edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."
    Sp in other words you went into calorie deficit, which is the equation needed for weight loss. Less sugar meant less calories.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png
    You seem really invested in my choices. Hm.

    Nutrients make the difference for me in terms of letting the sugar into my life, sure. I'd rather get my fiber, protein, and vitamins from natural foods than from processed ones. I will still make good choices in terms of what and how much of these nutrient-dense foods I eat.

    Less sugar in general means less calories. I try not to get the majority of my calories from carbs. Not spiking my blood sugar also means more energy on a consistent basis, and less cravings, which helps me be more in control.
    Lol, no not your choices, but your answers. The reality is that sugar is sugar and the main concern for most would be the total consumption. Getting it from natural or processed foods is a preference, but over consumption can happen from either.
    One can eat well 80% of the time and eat processed non nutrient dense foods 20% and still be healthy. Look at Asians overseas. Processed carbs aren't keeping them thin (white rice). Eating small portions are.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png
    For five years (no longer expat as of a couple weeks ago) I was one of those "Asians overseas". Are you unaware that there are different kinds of sugars? Fructose in particular aggravates insulin resistance. Asians in particular are lactose intolerant. I have lived in Japan, China, and mostly in South Korea. Those who eat at home eat a balanced diet of rice mixed with beans (a complete protein in combination), soup, fish, and fermented foods. Because this diet is balanced (and low in added sugar is part of that) the occasional indulgence is kept in check (which is exactly what I'm talking about). Recent rises in obesity in Asian countries is heavily associated with an increase in consumption of processed foods (which are often high in added sugar and salt) and an associated sedentary lifestyle (more school, more work, less time to eat at home.) Also it's a myth that Asians are naturally thin or something like that. The average South Korean woman is obsessed with dieting.

    I don't really understand what you're challenging, here. I'm with you about a balance, but I choose not to get sugar from that which is added to food.
  • sweetbamaTLC
    sweetbamaTLC Posts: 170 Member
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    Decrease it. Especially the "ose" types of sugars that are added to processed foods. Real food is best. Get your sugar from whole foods like fruits in their natural state. That's what I'm trying to do. I've done it once and it was unbelievable the difference in how I felt. I'm in the process of doing it again. It's tough. But for me...worth it.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
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    Decrease it. Especially the "ose" types of sugars that are added to processed foods. Real food is best. Get your sugar from whole foods like fruits in their natural state. That's what I'm trying to do. I've done it once and it was unbelievable the difference in how I felt. I'm in the process of doing it again. It's tough. But for me...worth it.
    What about the naturally occuring 'ose' types of sugar? Are those okay?
  • bennettinfinity
    bennettinfinity Posts: 865 Member
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    Decrease it. Especially the "ose" types of sugars that are added to processed foods. Real food is best. Get your sugar from whole foods like fruits in their natural state. That's what I'm trying to do. I've done it once and it was unbelievable the difference in how I felt. I'm in the process of doing it again. It's tough. But for me...worth it.

    Sincere question because I see posts like this all the time: If you felt so great, why did you stop doing it the first time?
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    TheVirgoddess Posts: 4,535 Member
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    Decrease it. Especially the "ose" types of sugars that are added to processed foods. Real food is best. Get your sugar from whole foods like fruits in their natural state. That's what I'm trying to do. I've done it once and it was unbelievable the difference in how I felt. I'm in the process of doing it again. It's tough. But for me...worth it.

    Super sincere question - if you did it once, and felt great, what happened that you have to do it again?
  • auddii
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    Annie_01 wrote: »
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    I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.

    you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.

    I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.

    I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
    Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.

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    I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.

    I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.

    Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.

    I think the confusion is coming from that this poster was not the original poster. The OP used the term "sugar strike".

    Ah. Dang it; I got lost...
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    SharpTeeth wrote: »
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    I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.

    you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.

    I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.

    I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.

    ....... in 3, 2, 1
    Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen.

    To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.)
    Sugar is sugar. Nutrients that ACCOMPANY it would be the difference. Sugar cane and beets don't have much nutrient value, but are still "naturally" occurring in sugar.
    If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.
    Which is fine, but still correct information should be conveyed.
    I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.

    edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."
    Sp in other words you went into calorie deficit, which is the equation needed for weight loss. Less sugar meant less calories.

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    You seem really invested in my choices. Hm.

    Nutrients make the difference for me in terms of letting the sugar into my life, sure. I'd rather get my fiber, protein, and vitamins from natural foods than from processed ones. I will still make good choices in terms of what and how much of these nutrient-dense foods I eat.

    Less sugar in general means less calories. I try not to get the majority of my calories from carbs. Not spiking my blood sugar also means more energy on a consistent basis, and less cravings, which helps me be more in control.
    Lol, no not your choices, but your answers. The reality is that sugar is sugar and the main concern for most would be the total consumption. Getting it from natural or processed foods is a preference, but over consumption can happen from either.
    One can eat well 80% of the time and eat processed non nutrient dense foods 20% and still be healthy. Look at Asians overseas. Processed carbs aren't keeping them thin (white rice). Eating small portions are.

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    For five years (no longer expat as of a couple weeks ago) I was one of those "Asians overseas". Are you unaware that there are different kinds of sugars? Fructose in particular aggravates insulin resistance. Asians in particular are lactose intolerant. I have lived in Japan, China, and mostly in South Korea. Those who eat at home eat a balanced diet of rice mixed with beans (a complete protein in combination), soup, fish, and fermented foods. Because this diet is balanced (and low in added sugar is part of that) the occasional indulgence is kept in check (which is exactly what I'm talking about). Recent rises in obesity in Asian countries is heavily associated with an increase in consumption of processed foods (which are often high in added sugar and salt) and an associated sedentary lifestyle (more school, more work, less time to eat at home.) Also it's a myth that Asians are naturally thin or something like that. The average South Korean woman is obsessed with dieting.

    I don't really understand what you're challenging, here. I'm with you about a balance, but I choose not to get sugar from that which is added to food.
    Odd, plenty of Japanese people are thin and eating plenty of added sugar.
    http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
    IMHO, a huge difference between Japan and other developed countries is the amount of physical activity. A lot of Japan's population lives in cities where subway or rail transport and the associated walking is common. Some companies start the day with group calisthenics.
  • ndj1979
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    Decrease it. Especially the "ose" types of sugars that are added to processed foods. Real food is best. Get your sugar from whole foods like fruits in their natural state. That's what I'm trying to do. I've done it once and it was unbelievable the difference in how I felt. I'm in the process of doing it again. It's tough. But for me...worth it.

    you do realize that sugar = sugar right? So you are getting zero benefit from eating one form of sugar over another.