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Hi! This is day 2 on my new sugar strike lifestyle. Would anyone be interested in joining me get rid of sugar in their diet once and for all?
Just wanted to say good luck! Surprised by all the negative comments you have been getting, I would have thought people would be more supportive since they took the time to actually join the thread. Guess some people just have way too much time on their hands. Also odd they would assume you mean you are eliminating 'natural sugars' as well. All sugars ARE NOT created equal. I can eat sources of natural sugars all day....fruits and veggies etc, with no issues, but I am allergic to processed sugar, it basically makes me sick so I am going to slowly start working it out of my diet. I know I will never eliminate it, but at least I can take in less. So, best of luck!
is this a diagnosed allergy or a 'dem feelz' allergy?
sorry but the sugar in an apple = the sugar in a snickers. They are the same.
no one is being negative, we are telling the OP that a "sugar strike" has nothing to do with weight loss or being healthy. It is called accurate dissemination of information.0 -
virginialeew wrote: »
Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen._incogNEATo_ wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
....... in 3, 2, 1
To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.) If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.
I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.
you can hit micros and eat sugar, the two are not mutually exclusive.0 -
Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
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Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
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I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.0 -
You view it as negative commentary, but the truth is that many people who try to do extreme "cuts" of any food tend to regain the weight and more. It's not uncommon in the dieting world.Hi! This is day 2 on my new sugar strike lifestyle. Would anyone be interested in joining me get rid of sugar in their diet once and for all?
Just wanted to say good luck! Surprised by all the negative comments you have been getting, I would have thought people would be more supportive since they took the time to actually join the thread. Guess some people just have way too much time on their hands. Also odd they would assume you mean you are eliminating 'natural sugars' as well. All sugars ARE NOT created equal. I can eat sources of natural sugars all day....fruits and veggies etc, with no issues, but I am allergic to processed sugar, it basically makes me sick so I am going to slowly start working it out of my diet. I know I will never eliminate it, but at least I can take in less. So, best of luck!
Also, you CAN'T be allergic to processed sugar because believe it or not, the body doesn't recognized the difference. All it does is break sugar down to it's simplest form, regardless of source, to be absorbed. Nothing negative about giving out correct information.
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virginialeew wrote: »
Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
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I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.
I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.
Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.0 -
Sugar is sugar. Nutrients that ACCOMPANY it would be the difference. Sugar cane and beets don't have much nutrient value, but are still "naturally" occurring in sugar.virginialeew wrote: »
Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen._incogNEATo_ wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
....... in 3, 2, 1
To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.)
Which is fine, but still correct information should be conveyed.If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.
Sp in other words you went into calorie deficit, which is the equation needed for weight loss. Less sugar meant less calories.I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.
edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."
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I suppose I'm learning about the community, haha. I did say "added sugars" in my original post?virginialeew wrote: »
Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
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I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.
I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.
Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.
I also find myself needing less of a sweet when I do have one. What sort of "quality sweet" are we talking? I can't say no to a good piece of coconut cake, myself.
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Hi! This is day 2 on my new sugar strike lifestyle. Would anyone be interested in joining me get rid of sugar in their diet once and for all?
Just wanted to say good luck! Surprised by all the negative comments you have been getting, I would have thought people would be more supportive since they took the time to actually join the thread. Guess some people just have way too much time on their hands. Also odd they would assume you mean you are eliminating 'natural sugars' as well. All sugars ARE NOT created equal. I can eat sources of natural sugars all day....fruits and veggies etc, with no issues, but I am allergic to processed sugar, it basically makes me sick so I am going to slowly start working it out of my diet. I know I will never eliminate it, but at least I can take in less. So, best of luck!
Negative comments =/= stating facts. Support comes in the form of giving information that OP can use rather than telling them "you're making the right choice" all of the time.
Good luck convincing your body that the sugars you're getting from fruits and veggies is different from sugar you're getting in ice cream and Reese's cups. I'm glad my body treats them both the same.0 -
SharpTeeth wrote: »
I suppose I'm learning about the community, haha. I did say "added sugars" in my original post?virginialeew wrote: »
Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
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I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.
I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.
Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.
I also find myself needing less of a sweet when I do have one. What sort of "quality sweet" are we talking? I can't say no to a good piece of coconut cake, myself.
I love a serving of good gelato or well made ice cream, or a square or two of good chocolate. When I first saw what an actual serving of ice cream/gelato looked like it seemed so small. Now I splurge on good quality and savor the complex flavors. Mmm...0 -
You seem really invested in my choices. Hm.
Sugar is sugar. Nutrients that ACCOMPANY it would be the difference. Sugar cane and beets don't have much nutrient value, but are still "naturally" occurring in sugar.virginialeew wrote: »
Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen._incogNEATo_ wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
....... in 3, 2, 1
To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.)
Which is fine, but still correct information should be conveyed.If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.
Sp in other words you went into calorie deficit, which is the equation needed for weight loss. Less sugar meant less calories.I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.
edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."
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Nutrients make the difference for me in terms of letting the sugar into my life, sure. I'd rather get my fiber, protein, and vitamins from natural foods than from processed ones. I will still make good choices in terms of what and how much of these nutrient-dense foods I eat.
Less sugar in general means less calories. I try not to get the majority of my calories from carbs. Not spiking my blood sugar also means more energy on a consistent basis, and less cravings, which helps me be more in control.
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Hi! This is day 2 on my new sugar strike lifestyle. Would anyone be interested in joining me get rid of sugar in their diet once and for all?
Just wanted to say good luck! Surprised by all the negative comments you have been getting, I would have thought people would be more supportive since they took the time to actually join the thread. Guess some people just have way too much time on their hands. Also odd they would assume you mean you are eliminating 'natural sugars' as well. All sugars ARE NOT created equal. I can eat sources of natural sugars all day....fruits and veggies etc, with no issues, but I am allergic to processed sugar, it basically makes me sick so I am going to slowly start working it out of my diet. I know I will never eliminate it, but at least I can take in less. So, best of luck!
You are allergic to one sugar, but not the other, even though they are they are the same on a molecular level?
That does not compute....
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I keep saying dairy as an example of a nutrient-dense food, but actually I'm allergic to it x) I developed my allergy in my early 20s, like many people of Asian descent do. I miss the hell out of good gelato!SharpTeeth wrote: »
I suppose I'm learning about the community, haha. I did say "added sugars" in my original post?virginialeew wrote: »
Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
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I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.
I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.
Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.
I also find myself needing less of a sweet when I do have one. What sort of "quality sweet" are we talking? I can't say no to a good piece of coconut cake, myself.
I love a serving of good gelato or well made ice cream, or a square or two of good chocolate. When I first saw what an actual serving of ice cream/gelato looked like it seemed so small. Now I splurge on good quality and savor the complex flavors. Mmm...
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virginialeew wrote: »
Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen._incogNEATo_ wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
....... in 3, 2, 1
To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.) If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.
I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.
edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."
You mentioned breakfast cereal being a biggie. While the cereal that I eat has 14g of sugar I think that is offset by the other vitamins and minerals that I get...iron being a biggie for me. I just wasn't getting enough through foods where it occurs naturally.
I think we have to weigh the trade offs...for me it is worth the added sugar.
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virginialeew wrote: »
Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen._incogNEATo_ wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
....... in 3, 2, 1
To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.) If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.
I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.
edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."
You mentioned breakfast cereal being a biggie. While the cereal that I eat has 14g of sugar I think that is offset by the other vitamins and minerals that I get...iron being a biggie for me. I just wasn't getting enough through foods where it occurs naturally.
I think we have to weigh the trade offs...for me it is worth the added sugar.
We all make our own choices, depending on what is right for us. For me, I personally wouldn't eat that, because it has four different kinds of added sugar. I replaced such cereals with oatmeal or shredded wheat on occasion. I'm not saying what I do is a mandate or judgment of others, though. My mother starts her day with Honey Bunches of Oats, which is similar, and she considers it both a healthy breakfast and a treat. I think that's nice. Just personally, I will take my treat elsewhere. I'm definitely with you regarding trade-offs.0 -
SharpTeeth wrote: »
I keep saying dairy as an example of a nutrient-dense food, but actually I'm allergic to it x) I developed my allergy in my early 20s, like many people of Asian descent do. I miss the hell out of good gelato!SharpTeeth wrote: »
I suppose I'm learning about the community, haha. I did say "added sugars" in my original post?virginialeew wrote: »
Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
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I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.
I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.
Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.
I also find myself needing less of a sweet when I do have one. What sort of "quality sweet" are we talking? I can't say no to a good piece of coconut cake, myself.
I love a serving of good gelato or well made ice cream, or a square or two of good chocolate. When I first saw what an actual serving of ice cream/gelato looked like it seemed so small. Now I splurge on good quality and savor the complex flavors. Mmm...
There is also sorbetto and I've heard that so delicious have good non-dairy desserts (although I have not tried those).
Talenti has a few sorbettos and I'm sure there are other brands: http://www.talentigelato.com/our-products/0 -
More for me!
In all seriousness, cutting out sugar is not a miracle fix for weight loss or health though. That said, if you feel like it's what you want/need to do - I wish you the best. Good luck!0 -
SharpTeeth wrote: »
I keep saying dairy as an example of a nutrient-dense food, but actually I'm allergic to it x) I developed my allergy in my early 20s, like many people of Asian descent do. I miss the hell out of good gelato!SharpTeeth wrote: »
I suppose I'm learning about the community, haha. I did say "added sugars" in my original post?virginialeew wrote: »
Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
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I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.
I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.
Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.
I also find myself needing less of a sweet when I do have one. What sort of "quality sweet" are we talking? I can't say no to a good piece of coconut cake, myself.
I love a serving of good gelato or well made ice cream, or a square or two of good chocolate. When I first saw what an actual serving of ice cream/gelato looked like it seemed so small. Now I splurge on good quality and savor the complex flavors. Mmm...
There is also sorbetto and I've heard that so delicious have good non-dairy desserts (although I have not tried those).
Talenti has a few sorbettos and I'm sure there are other brands: http://www.talentigelato.com/our-products/
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Lol, no not your choices, but your answers. The reality is that sugar is sugar and the main concern for most would be the total consumption. Getting it from natural or processed foods is a preference, but over consumption can happen from either.SharpTeeth wrote: »
You seem really invested in my choices. Hm.
Sugar is sugar. Nutrients that ACCOMPANY it would be the difference. Sugar cane and beets don't have much nutrient value, but are still "naturally" occurring in sugar.virginialeew wrote: »
Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen._incogNEATo_ wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
....... in 3, 2, 1
To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.)
Which is fine, but still correct information should be conveyed.If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.
Sp in other words you went into calorie deficit, which is the equation needed for weight loss. Less sugar meant less calories.I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.
edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."
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Nutrients make the difference for me in terms of letting the sugar into my life, sure. I'd rather get my fiber, protein, and vitamins from natural foods than from processed ones. I will still make good choices in terms of what and how much of these nutrient-dense foods I eat.
Less sugar in general means less calories. I try not to get the majority of my calories from carbs. Not spiking my blood sugar also means more energy on a consistent basis, and less cravings, which helps me be more in control.
One can eat well 80% of the time and eat processed non nutrient dense foods 20% and still be healthy. Look at Asians overseas. Processed carbs aren't keeping them thin (white rice). Eating small portions are.
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You might be allergic to something in the assembly that processes food into sugar, but there is no way you are allergic to prcoessed sugar while not allergic to 'natural sugar'. They're the exact same molecule. It is physically impossible to differentiate them.Hi! This is day 2 on my new sugar strike lifestyle. Would anyone be interested in joining me get rid of sugar in their diet once and for all?
Just wanted to say good luck! Surprised by all the negative comments you have been getting, I would have thought people would be more supportive since they took the time to actually join the thread. Guess some people just have way too much time on their hands. Also odd they would assume you mean you are eliminating 'natural sugars' as well. All sugars ARE NOT created equal. I can eat sources of natural sugars all day....fruits and veggies etc, with no issues, but I am allergic to processed sugar, it basically makes me sick so I am going to slowly start working it out of my diet. I know I will never eliminate it, but at least I can take in less. So, best of luck!
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[quote="auddii;33246517"]virginialeew wrote: »
Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
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I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.
I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.
Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.[/quote]
I think the confusion is coming from that this poster was not the original poster. The OP used the term "sugar strike".
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No thanks. Sugar fuels awesome things.0
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For five years (no longer expat as of a couple weeks ago) I was one of those "Asians overseas". Are you unaware that there are different kinds of sugars? Fructose in particular aggravates insulin resistance. Asians in particular are lactose intolerant. I have lived in Japan, China, and mostly in South Korea. Those who eat at home eat a balanced diet of rice mixed with beans (a complete protein in combination), soup, fish, and fermented foods. Because this diet is balanced (and low in added sugar is part of that) the occasional indulgence is kept in check (which is exactly what I'm talking about). Recent rises in obesity in Asian countries is heavily associated with an increase in consumption of processed foods (which are often high in added sugar and salt) and an associated sedentary lifestyle (more school, more work, less time to eat at home.) Also it's a myth that Asians are naturally thin or something like that. The average South Korean woman is obsessed with dieting.
Lol, no not your choices, but your answers. The reality is that sugar is sugar and the main concern for most would be the total consumption. Getting it from natural or processed foods is a preference, but over consumption can happen from either.SharpTeeth wrote: »
You seem really invested in my choices. Hm.
Sugar is sugar. Nutrients that ACCOMPANY it would be the difference. Sugar cane and beets don't have much nutrient value, but are still "naturally" occurring in sugar.virginialeew wrote: »
Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen._incogNEATo_ wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
....... in 3, 2, 1
To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.)
Which is fine, but still correct information should be conveyed.If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.
Sp in other words you went into calorie deficit, which is the equation needed for weight loss. Less sugar meant less calories.I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.
edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."
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Nutrients make the difference for me in terms of letting the sugar into my life, sure. I'd rather get my fiber, protein, and vitamins from natural foods than from processed ones. I will still make good choices in terms of what and how much of these nutrient-dense foods I eat.
Less sugar in general means less calories. I try not to get the majority of my calories from carbs. Not spiking my blood sugar also means more energy on a consistent basis, and less cravings, which helps me be more in control.
One can eat well 80% of the time and eat processed non nutrient dense foods 20% and still be healthy. Look at Asians overseas. Processed carbs aren't keeping them thin (white rice). Eating small portions are.
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I don't really understand what you're challenging, here. I'm with you about a balance, but I choose not to get sugar from that which is added to food.0 -
Decrease it. Especially the "ose" types of sugars that are added to processed foods. Real food is best. Get your sugar from whole foods like fruits in their natural state. That's what I'm trying to do. I've done it once and it was unbelievable the difference in how I felt. I'm in the process of doing it again. It's tough. But for me...worth it.0
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What about the naturally occuring 'ose' types of sugar? Are those okay?sweetbamaTLC wrote: »Decrease it. Especially the "ose" types of sugars that are added to processed foods. Real food is best. Get your sugar from whole foods like fruits in their natural state. That's what I'm trying to do. I've done it once and it was unbelievable the difference in how I felt. I'm in the process of doing it again. It's tough. But for me...worth it.
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sweetbamaTLC wrote: »Decrease it. Especially the "ose" types of sugars that are added to processed foods. Real food is best. Get your sugar from whole foods like fruits in their natural state. That's what I'm trying to do. I've done it once and it was unbelievable the difference in how I felt. I'm in the process of doing it again. It's tough. But for me...worth it.
Sincere question because I see posts like this all the time: If you felt so great, why did you stop doing it the first time?0 -
sweetbamaTLC wrote: »Decrease it. Especially the "ose" types of sugars that are added to processed foods. Real food is best. Get your sugar from whole foods like fruits in their natural state. That's what I'm trying to do. I've done it once and it was unbelievable the difference in how I felt. I'm in the process of doing it again. It's tough. But for me...worth it.
Super sincere question - if you did it once, and felt great, what happened that you have to do it again?0 -
virginialeew wrote: »
Which is fine if you can sustain it. But for most, having a small slice of cake at a party, ice cream cone at a hot outing, or even yogurt won't cause an issue with sugar as long as it's not an excessive amount. The take away here is that one doesn't have to go to the extreme to REDUCE the amount of sugar intake. Just be conscious about total intake per day should be considered.virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
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I think we're on the same page with that. In a post on the previous page I added that, for me, eating well consistently (which we all our own definition of, of course) helps me feel good about having a sweet something when I do indulge. Naturally occurring sugars in nutrient dense foods (within reason) are still on the menu for me on a daily basis.
I really enjoy going for quality sweets now, and I usually have less just "meh" sweets. And I agree, I can usually enjoy those in smaller portions.
Find what works for you, but keep in mind what you're describing is what a lot of people consider moderation and not a "sugar strike", so while most people are disagreeing with what they thought your post was, they probably would agree with what you're doing.
I think the confusion is coming from that this poster was not the original poster. The OP used the term "sugar strike".
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Odd, plenty of Japanese people are thin and eating plenty of added sugar.SharpTeeth wrote: »
For five years (no longer expat as of a couple weeks ago) I was one of those "Asians overseas". Are you unaware that there are different kinds of sugars? Fructose in particular aggravates insulin resistance. Asians in particular are lactose intolerant. I have lived in Japan, China, and mostly in South Korea. Those who eat at home eat a balanced diet of rice mixed with beans (a complete protein in combination), soup, fish, and fermented foods. Because this diet is balanced (and low in added sugar is part of that) the occasional indulgence is kept in check (which is exactly what I'm talking about). Recent rises in obesity in Asian countries is heavily associated with an increase in consumption of processed foods (which are often high in added sugar and salt) and an associated sedentary lifestyle (more school, more work, less time to eat at home.) Also it's a myth that Asians are naturally thin or something like that. The average South Korean woman is obsessed with dieting.
Lol, no not your choices, but your answers. The reality is that sugar is sugar and the main concern for most would be the total consumption. Getting it from natural or processed foods is a preference, but over consumption can happen from either.SharpTeeth wrote: »
You seem really invested in my choices. Hm.
Sugar is sugar. Nutrients that ACCOMPANY it would be the difference. Sugar cane and beets don't have much nutrient value, but are still "naturally" occurring in sugar.virginialeew wrote: »
Haha! I'm new here. I had no idea that was about to happen._incogNEATo_ wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »virginialeew wrote: »I'm doing my best in the past week to cut out added sugars. I just finished reading "A Year of No Sugar" and it really seems to me that if I can avoid added sugars, why not? Health is all about those little changes, after all.
you don't need to avoid sugar to be healthy.
I eat about 70-100 grams of sugar a day and my blood work comes back nearly perfect every year.
I can only do what works for me. I used to be pre-diabetic, so if I can choose a peanut butter without hfcs in it, that's my plan. I'm not talking about foods in which sugars naturally occur (fruits, starches, dairy, etc). I'm talking about choosing foods without sugar in the ingredients.
....... in 3, 2, 1
To respond to a little of it, the difference is that sugar which naturally occurs is generally found in food that is also nutrient dense (fruit, dairy, etc.)
Which is fine, but still correct information should be conveyed.If I'm not altering my diet in any other way, those little sugars I'm cutting out in non-nutrient dense foods really add up (breakfast cereal is a biggie, for example), which is something myfitnesspal is helping me keep track of. I'm not saying this is right for everyone, and obviously, it's not. I'm no harpy, telling people they can't have their apple pie.
Sp in other words you went into calorie deficit, which is the equation needed for weight loss. Less sugar meant less calories.I lost weight paying attention to my starches and portion sizes, in combination with daily exercise. I definitely cut out nearly all sugary snacks and altered the way I cook to suit my new lifestyle. I absolutely cut out as much sugar as I knew how to at the time.
edit: To add, eating consistently no added sugar and paying attention to salt helps to me to feel less guilty when I do indulge on special occasions. As a friend likes to say, "I'll take my sugar in my beer, thanks."
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Nutrients make the difference for me in terms of letting the sugar into my life, sure. I'd rather get my fiber, protein, and vitamins from natural foods than from processed ones. I will still make good choices in terms of what and how much of these nutrient-dense foods I eat.
Less sugar in general means less calories. I try not to get the majority of my calories from carbs. Not spiking my blood sugar also means more energy on a consistent basis, and less cravings, which helps me be more in control.
One can eat well 80% of the time and eat processed non nutrient dense foods 20% and still be healthy. Look at Asians overseas. Processed carbs aren't keeping them thin (white rice). Eating small portions are.
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I don't really understand what you're challenging, here. I'm with you about a balance, but I choose not to get sugar from that which is added to food.
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
IMHO, a huge difference between Japan and other developed countries is the amount of physical activity. A lot of Japan's population lives in cities where subway or rail transport and the associated walking is common. Some companies start the day with group calisthenics.0 -
sweetbamaTLC wrote: »Decrease it. Especially the "ose" types of sugars that are added to processed foods. Real food is best. Get your sugar from whole foods like fruits in their natural state. That's what I'm trying to do. I've done it once and it was unbelievable the difference in how I felt. I'm in the process of doing it again. It's tough. But for me...worth it.
you do realize that sugar = sugar right? So you are getting zero benefit from eating one form of sugar over another.0
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