Diet Soda
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Is there a specific effect that happens to you from aspartame?They took the aspartame out of the Diet Pepsi.
I don't want the caffeine addiction again. I don't need the extra sodium (although I have lowered it enough that I could probably squeeze some in.) I can drink water pretty cheaply, why pay, but...
It makes it very tempting, lol. The second I heard it was really gone, I was like, "I could drink it again!"
Must stay strong, but maybe if I go out to eat.
They're just replacing the aspartame with sucralose / Splenda.0 -
A correlation study is hardly significant, especially when animals are involved.Elle_Bronwyn15 wrote: »
Everything can be bad in excess, I suggest seriously cutting back on the diet soda.
As mentioned, dosage can be an issue, so drink in moderation.
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A designed experiment that involved randomly assigned mice is NOT correlational.0 -
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CatMoves2718 wrote: »
A correlation study is hardly significant, especially when animals are involved.Elle_Bronwyn15 wrote: »
Everything can be bad in excess, I suggest seriously cutting back on the diet soda.
As mentioned, dosage can be an issue, so drink in moderation.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A designed experiment that involved randomly assigned mice is NOT correlational.
Maybe not, but it's still full of holes. Plus, we are talking about mice....which don't have the reasoning skills of humans.0 -
Always the optimist.CatMoves2718 wrote: »
A correlation study is hardly significant, especially when animals are involved.Elle_Bronwyn15 wrote: »
Everything can be bad in excess, I suggest seriously cutting back on the diet soda.
As mentioned, dosage can be an issue, so drink in moderation.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A designed experiment that involved randomly assigned mice is NOT correlational.
Maybe not, but it's still full of holes. Plus, we are talking about mice....which don't have the reasoning skills of humans.
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
Always the optimist.CatMoves2718 wrote: »
A correlation study is hardly significant, especially when animals are involved.Elle_Bronwyn15 wrote: »
Everything can be bad in excess, I suggest seriously cutting back on the diet soda.
As mentioned, dosage can be an issue, so drink in moderation.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A designed experiment that involved randomly assigned mice is NOT correlational.
Maybe not, but it's still full of holes. Plus, we are talking about mice....which don't have the reasoning skills of humans.
ha, apparently not everyone has the reasoning skills as shown over and over in sugar threads, but yes, I remain optimistic
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
Always the optimist.CatMoves2718 wrote: »
A correlation study is hardly significant, especially when animals are involved.Elle_Bronwyn15 wrote: »
Everything can be bad in excess, I suggest seriously cutting back on the diet soda.
As mentioned, dosage can be an issue, so drink in moderation.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A designed experiment that involved randomly assigned mice is NOT correlational.
Maybe not, but it's still full of holes. Plus, we are talking about mice....which don't have the reasoning skills of humans.
Made me giggle0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »They took the aspartame out of the Diet Pepsi.
I don't want the caffeine addiction again. I don't need the extra sodium (although I have lowered it enough that I could probably squeeze some in.) I can drink water pretty cheaply, why pay, but...
It makes it very tempting, lol. The second I heard it was really gone, I was like, "I could drink it again!"
Must stay strong, but maybe if I go out to eat.
I don't think that has happened yet because I just got a Diet Pepsi this morning and it had aspartame. The bottle had the Pepsi Pass summer promotion, so I know it isn't old. But I think there is a plan to switch to sucralose, it just hasn't happened yet.
I don't know about where you are, but it's in the stores here!
I'm in Iowa.
ETA: This store opened 1 week ago, and they were stocking and had inventory for the week prior to that. This diet Pepsi would have physically hit the shelf no earlier than 6/29.0 -
I sure hope not! I just switched to diet soda in the hopes that I could save some calories. I am only allowing myself (3) 12oz. cans per week.0
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Some people (people who know, not Internet people) said aspartame is fine. Others said it wasn't. There were, "Well, in large doses, it's bad, but in small ones, it's good" things. The whole thing reminded me too much of the back and forth over smoking. Until they all agreed it was perfectly safe, I quit the pop.
Is there a specific effect that happens to you from aspartame?They took the aspartame out of the Diet Pepsi.
I don't want the caffeine addiction again. I don't need the extra sodium (although I have lowered it enough that I could probably squeeze some in.) I can drink water pretty cheaply, why pay, but...
It makes it very tempting, lol. The second I heard it was really gone, I was like, "I could drink it again!"
Must stay strong, but maybe if I go out to eat.
They're just replacing the aspartame with sucralose / Splenda.
If I hear that sucralose is bad and people are outlawing it, I'll worry about that. Until then, I won't. I'm not drinking it now, anyway.
I kind of want to taste this new diet pop. I don't want to get sucked back in. Caffeine addiction sucks and the pop they sell in bottles hurts to open. I don't need the salt, for sure. But I want to taste it. 0 -
I sure hope not! I just switched to diet soda in the hopes that I could save some calories. I am only allowing myself (3) 12oz. cans per week.
Switching to a non-caloric beverage (diet soda) from a caloric beverage (regular soda) will reduce total calorie intake if all other things are equal.
The discussion here is focused more on the difference between different non-caloric beverages (diet soda and water).0 -
Some people (people who know, not Internet people) said aspartame is fine. Others said it wasn't. There were, "Well, in large doses, it's bad, but in small ones, it's good" things. The whole thing reminded me too much of the back and forth over smoking. Until they all agreed it was perfectly safe, I quit the pop.
Is there a specific effect that happens to you from aspartame?They took the aspartame out of the Diet Pepsi.
I don't want the caffeine addiction again. I don't need the extra sodium (although I have lowered it enough that I could probably squeeze some in.) I can drink water pretty cheaply, why pay, but...
It makes it very tempting, lol. The second I heard it was really gone, I was like, "I could drink it again!"
Must stay strong, but maybe if I go out to eat.
They're just replacing the aspartame with sucralose / Splenda.
If I hear that sucralose is bad and people are outlawing it, I'll worry about that. Until then, I won't. I'm not drinking it now, anyway.
I kind of want to taste this new diet pop. I don't want to get sucked back in. Caffeine addiction sucks and the pop they sell in bottles hurts to open. I don't need the salt, for sure. But I want to taste it.
Of the 107 studies done on aspartame (it is one of the most studied substances regulated by the FDA), only 2 of them showed negative results. They were both conducted by the same dr. who did not use proper controls in her studies and the empiracal results did not support her conclusions. It was very obvious that she tweaked the studies to support a personal bias. Nonetheless, these studies were juicy enough for the media to blast everywhere. So now everybody believes aspartame is some terrible product.0 -
Some people (people who know, not Internet people) said aspartame is fine. Others said it wasn't. There were, "Well, in large doses, it's bad, but in small ones, it's good" things. The whole thing reminded me too much of the back and forth over smoking. Until they all agreed it was perfectly safe, I quit the pop.
Is there a specific effect that happens to you from aspartame?They took the aspartame out of the Diet Pepsi.
I don't want the caffeine addiction again. I don't need the extra sodium (although I have lowered it enough that I could probably squeeze some in.) I can drink water pretty cheaply, why pay, but...
It makes it very tempting, lol. The second I heard it was really gone, I was like, "I could drink it again!"
Must stay strong, but maybe if I go out to eat.
They're just replacing the aspartame with sucralose / Splenda.
If I hear that sucralose is bad and people are outlawing it, I'll worry about that. Until then, I won't. I'm not drinking it now, anyway.
I kind of want to taste this new diet pop. I don't want to get sucked back in. Caffeine addiction sucks and the pop they sell in bottles hurts to open. I don't need the salt, for sure. But I want to taste it.
Are there any scientific studies that show aspartame to be bad? I am curious.
I don't exactly know who "they" is, but I don't believe I have ever seen anything other than scare tactic articles that says it's bad.0 -
I'm not getting into an aspartame fight. PepsiCo took it out of the diet Pepsi and I'd like to try the new stuff. 0
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Now asking questions is a fight?
I asked you a serious question.0 -
In other words, "No."0
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In another thread she posted that she believes someday that the protein recommendations will go down and that we are all recommended to eat to much now.DeguelloTex wrote: »In other words, "No."
It's hard to fathom...
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midwesterner85 wrote: »They took the aspartame out of the Diet Pepsi.
I don't want the caffeine addiction again. I don't need the extra sodium (although I have lowered it enough that I could probably squeeze some in.) I can drink water pretty cheaply, why pay, but...
It makes it very tempting, lol. The second I heard it was really gone, I was like, "I could drink it again!"
Must stay strong, but maybe if I go out to eat.
I don't think that has happened yet because I just got a Diet Pepsi this morning and it had aspartame. The bottle had the Pepsi Pass summer promotion, so I know it isn't old. But I think there is a plan to switch to sucralose, it just hasn't happened yet.
Ya...it's all due to the "aspartame is bad mmmmkay" fear mongering. Their sales are down something like 5% so it makes more sense to the bottom line to change.
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I absolutely did not ever say that.
In another thread she posted that she believes someday that the protein recommendations will go down and that we are all recommended to eat to much now.DeguelloTex wrote: »In other words, "No."
It's hard to fathom...
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"I suspect that they will one day figure out that not everyone needs that much protein, lol."
I absolutely did not ever say that.
In another thread she posted that she believes someday that the protein recommendations will go down and that we are all recommended to eat to much now.DeguelloTex wrote: »In other words, "No."
It's hard to fathom...
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
"I suspect that they will one day figure out that not everyone needs that much protein, lol."
I absolutely did not ever say that.
In another thread she posted that she believes someday that the protein recommendations will go down and that we are all recommended to eat to much now.DeguelloTex wrote: »In other words, "No."
It's hard to fathom...
That's very different than saying what he made up.
I also said that I realize it may be wishful thinking. It may be that since I don't like foods with protein - not enough to meet those numbers every day, anyway - that I'm just hoping that I don't need the things I don't want. But I do think that it's possible that not everyone needs the same amounts of protein.0 -
soda, or anything carbonated,, bloats your stomach, making it bigger for a little while. diet sugar sodas and the carbonated water will most definitely make you feel more hungry. although it doesn't add any calories, the soda is actually not doing you any good. especially coke. mt dew is the worst soda ever.. the rot they both cause. I love coke and diet coke don't get me wrong, but when we are trying to lose weight, we should minimize or just eliminate the soda all together. diet sugar has been known to make people feel more hungry too. I know I drink the crystal light, or generic crystal light powder stuff to get my water in. whenever im done with a glass of that shortly there after I feel hungry.. idk do what makes you happy just do in moderation. if you drink a six pack bottle of diet coke a day, try to reduce a bottle a day. or week. each week reduce a bottle and replace it with something else. good luck. keep trying.
Are you saying that it is 100% guaranteed that it causes bloat? Because I never get bloated from carbonated drinks.
Really? How do you know it is not doing any good? why eliminate? Are you trying to say you can't lose weight drinking soda?
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Recent research is finding that artificial sweeteners, specifically aspartame, messes with your gut bacteria and your metabolic system.
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688.full
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v514/n7521/full/nature13793.html0 -
"Although these observational data cannot establish causality..."loconnor466 wrote: »Recent research is finding that artificial sweeteners, specifically aspartame, messes with your gut bacteria and your metabolic system.
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688.full
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v514/n7521/full/nature13793.html
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Some people (people who know, not Internet people) said aspartame is fine. Others said it wasn't. There were, "Well, in large doses, it's bad, but in small ones, it's good" things. The whole thing reminded me too much of the back and forth over smoking. Until they all agreed it was perfectly safe, I quit the pop.
Is there a specific effect that happens to you from aspartame?They took the aspartame out of the Diet Pepsi.
I don't want the caffeine addiction again. I don't need the extra sodium (although I have lowered it enough that I could probably squeeze some in.) I can drink water pretty cheaply, why pay, but...
It makes it very tempting, lol. The second I heard it was really gone, I was like, "I could drink it again!"
Must stay strong, but maybe if I go out to eat.
They're just replacing the aspartame with sucralose / Splenda.
If I hear that sucralose is bad and people are outlawing it, I'll worry about that. Until then, I won't. I'm not drinking it now, anyway.
I kind of want to taste this new diet pop. I don't want to get sucked back in. Caffeine addiction sucks and the pop they sell in bottles hurts to open. I don't need the salt, for sure. But I want to taste it.
Except there never was a back and forth in the scientific community about smoking. NEVER. That's the greatest trick the tobacco lobby did - they convinced people that there was debate and a lack of consensus about the effects of smoking. There were a few researchers out there, usually ones that were talking and even sometimes experimenting outside of their field with studies that contradicted the consensus. The tobacco industry pumped all kinds of advertising (something tobacco companies know a lot about) dollars into making it look like there was disagreement.
Aspartame is the flip side of it. The vast majority of experiments show it to be perfectly safe - well unless you're using the equivalent of 10 liters of diet soft drinks a day, then it moves into uncertainly safe. A few bad studies out there push enough noise to shout over the consensus.0 -
Some people (people who know, not Internet people) said aspartame is fine. Others said it wasn't. There were, "Well, in large doses, it's bad, but in small ones, it's good" things. The whole thing reminded me too much of the back and forth over smoking. Until they all agreed it was perfectly safe, I quit the pop.
Is there a specific effect that happens to you from aspartame?They took the aspartame out of the Diet Pepsi.
I don't want the caffeine addiction again. I don't need the extra sodium (although I have lowered it enough that I could probably squeeze some in.) I can drink water pretty cheaply, why pay, but...
It makes it very tempting, lol. The second I heard it was really gone, I was like, "I could drink it again!"
Must stay strong, but maybe if I go out to eat.
They're just replacing the aspartame with sucralose / Splenda.
If I hear that sucralose is bad and people are outlawing it, I'll worry about that. Until then, I won't. I'm not drinking it now, anyway.
I kind of want to taste this new diet pop. I don't want to get sucked back in. Caffeine addiction sucks and the pop they sell in bottles hurts to open. I don't need the salt, for sure. But I want to taste it.
Except there never was a back and forth in the scientific community about smoking. NEVER. That's the greatest trick the tobacco lobby did - they convinced people that there was debate and a lack of consensus about the effects of smoking. There were a few researchers out there, usually ones that were talking and even sometimes experimenting outside of their field with studies that contradicted the consensus. The tobacco industry pumped all kinds of advertising (something tobacco companies know a lot about) dollars into making it look like there was disagreement.
Aspartame is the flip side of it. The vast majority of experiments show it to be perfectly safe - well unless you're using the equivalent of 10 liters of diet soft drinks a day, then it moves into uncertainly safe. A few bad studies out there push enough noise to shout over the consensus.
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Well, that could be stopped clock. There studies that show leucine, the amino acid that most signals protein synthesis, also has a high activation of mTOR, with reduced mTOR activity associated with longevity populations. Very preliminary stuff though.
In another thread she posted that she believes someday that the protein recommendations will go down and that we are all recommended to eat to much now.DeguelloTex wrote: »In other words, "No."
It's hard to fathom...
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ilikecats01 wrote: »I am a big diet coke fan, and drink quite a bit during the day. Sometimes I wonder if, in some weird way, it is negatively affecting my weight. Like doing something to my metabolism? Anyone have an insight or experiences in this?
OP, this was posted by MFP's consultant dietitian on Facebook the other day.
https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/your-body-on-soda/?utm_source=mfp&utm_medium=Facebook0 -
And so was this recipe. Nothing to do with diet soda but yummy.
Banana-Sweetened Bran Muffins
Ingredients
•1/2 teaspoon cooking oil
•1 2/3 cups bran (wheat or oat, about 97 grams)
•2 teaspoons baking powder
•1 1/2 teaspoons cinnamon
•3 medium very ripe bananas, mashed (about 376 grams total with skin on)
•1/2 cup unsweetened applesauce (about 122 grams)
•1/2 cup low-fat plain Greek yogurt (about 245 grams)
•2 large eggs (about 100 grams total)
•1 teaspoon vanilla extract
Directions
Preheat oven to 375 degrees F. Lightly grease a 12-cup muffin tin with 1/2 teaspoon cooking oil.
In a medium bowl, whisk together dry ingredients, including oat bran, baking powder and cinnamon; set aside.
In a large bowl, mix the wet ingredients, including mashed banana, applesauce, Greek yogurt, eggs and vanilla together until well combined and smooth.
Add wet ingredients to dry ingredients, and mix until just combined.
Divide batter evenly into 12 muffin cups (about ¼ cup mix per muffin cup), and bake 20 minutes or until toothpick inserted into centre comes out clean. Transfer to a wire rack to cool for 10 minutes, then remove muffins from tin and place on wire rack to cool completely.
Muffins are best served warm with your favourite spread. Feel free to add in chocolate chips, berries or nuts to the batter!
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