Sugar from fruits

thitemple
thitemple Posts: 9 Member
edited July 2015 in Health and Weight Loss
I have a 45g/day limit on sugar. I eat most of my sugar from fruits and/or non fat greek yogurt.
Almost everyday I pass the sugar limit, eating 3 fruits a day and one yogurt.

Is that really bad? Aren't sugars from fruits a good thing?
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  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    edited July 2015
    Not a bad thing. When experts talk about limiting sugar, they're talking about added sugars. Fruits have vitamins, minerals and fiber. They bring sugar along for the ride.

    If you must stay at 21, stay there.

    Eat your fruit and don't worry about it. :)
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Where'd that 21 g come from? MFP gives me 77. If it came from your doctor, discuss with him/her.
  • atypicalsmith
    atypicalsmith Posts: 2,742 Member
    Eat fruit, be healthy, cut down on junk food, and stay within your caloric range.
  • cbrook29
    cbrook29 Posts: 57 Member
    Yeah MFP has me at a lot higher sugar. Fruit has fiber (typically) and other vitamins and is processed by the body differently than say High Frutose Corn Syrup. The body metabolizes these different sugars differently. Of course anything in abundance is bad. Fiber delays the delivery of Frutose to the liver. This is why I stopped drinking juice. The juice alone doesn't have the fiber. I think processed foods with sugar like Cola are far worse for you, simply keep eating fruit - just in moderation.
  • thitemple
    thitemple Posts: 9 Member
  • thitemple
    thitemple Posts: 9 Member
    cbrook29 wrote: »
    Yeah MFP has me at a lot higher sugar. Fruit has fiber (typically) and other vitamins and is processed by the body differently than say High Frutose Corn Syrup. The body metabolizes these different sugars differently. Of course anything in abundance is bad. Fiber delays the delivery of Frutose to the liver. This is why I stopped drinking juice. The juice alone doesn't have the fiber. I think processed foods with sugar like Cola are far worse for you, simply keep eating fruit - just in moderation.

    According to this post, all sugars are processed the same
    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10197460/sugar-faq-june-2015/p1
  • thitemple
    thitemple Posts: 9 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Where'd that 21 g come from? MFP gives me 77. If it came from your doctor, discuss with him/her.

    You're right the limit is not 21, it's 45... but I pass it everyday...

  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    vintem wrote: »
    cbrook29 wrote: »
    Yeah MFP has me at a lot higher sugar. Fruit has fiber (typically) and other vitamins and is processed by the body differently than say High Frutose Corn Syrup. The body metabolizes these different sugars differently. Of course anything in abundance is bad. Fiber delays the delivery of Frutose to the liver. This is why I stopped drinking juice. The juice alone doesn't have the fiber. I think processed foods with sugar like Cola are far worse for you, simply keep eating fruit - just in moderation.

    According to this post, all sugars are processed the same
    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10197460/sugar-faq-june-2015/p1
    I didn't read it, but a lot of people think that all sugars are digested in exactly the same way. They say it all the time. They don't understand the digestive system at all. Of course different sugars are digested differently. Because they're different, lol.
    They have different components and will, of course, be broken down differently.

    Digestion really doesn't make a ton of difference. The effect on your weight isn't about how it's digested. It's about how much sugar you take in. It's about the calories.

    When you're losing weight, you want all the nutrition you can get for as few calories as you can. Keeps you healthy, let's you stay full. So, it makes some sense to take your sugar from fruit, which gives you nutrients you need.

    If you don't want to eat any sugar, that's your choice and I won't argue it. Everyone has to do what works for them.

    But you can eat your fruit if you want to. For an otherwise healthy person, fruit won't hurt.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    vintem wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Where'd that 21 g come from? MFP gives me 77. If it came from your doctor, discuss with him/her.

    You're right the limit is not 21, it's 45... but I pass it everyday...

    Not sure why your limit is so much smaller than mine, but letting it go.

    I pass the limit on fat almost everyday, but since my goal is to lose a pound per week, and I am losing a pound per week, I don't worry about it. Fat makes me feel full.

    I pay attention to how foods make me feel - I don't feel well after eating bread made from flour, so I eat it extremely rarely. I feel great after eating fruits, so eat them a lot. I feel awful after eating a pint of Ben & Jerry's, so only buy 4 ounce containers.



  • atypicalsmith
    atypicalsmith Posts: 2,742 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    vintem wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Where'd that 21 g come from? MFP gives me 77. If it came from your doctor, discuss with him/her.

    You're right the limit is not 21, it's 45... but I pass it everyday...

    Not sure why your limit is so much smaller than mine, but letting it go.

    I pass the limit on fat almost everyday, but since my goal is to lose a pound per week, and I am losing a pound per week, I don't worry about it. Fat makes me feel full.

    I pay attention to how foods make me feel - I don't feel well after eating bread made from flour, so I eat it extremely rarely. I feel great after eating fruits, so eat them a lot. I feel awful after eating a pint of Ben & Jerry's, so only buy 4 ounce containers.



    Four ounces is a lot of ice cream.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    vintem wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Where'd that 21 g come from? MFP gives me 77. If it came from your doctor, discuss with him/her.

    You're right the limit is not 21, it's 45... but I pass it everyday...

    Not sure why your limit is so much smaller than mine, but letting it go.

    I pass the limit on fat almost everyday, but since my goal is to lose a pound per week, and I am losing a pound per week, I don't worry about it. Fat makes me feel full.

    I pay attention to how foods make me feel - I don't feel well after eating bread made from flour, so I eat it extremely rarely. I feel great after eating fruits, so eat them a lot. I feel awful after eating a pint of Ben & Jerry's, so only buy 4 ounce containers.



    Four ounces is a lot of ice cream.

    No, actually, it's not. 4 ounces is about 112 grams. Most of the ice creams that I buy have a serving size set as 100 grams. Depending on the calories in the ice cream, I usually can fit at least 100 - 150 grams into my day.

    Maybe it's a lot to you, but it doesn't really make sense to judge how much ice cream someone eats when you don't know the context of their overall diet.
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  • cbelc2
    cbelc2 Posts: 762 Member
    I eat nonfat plain yogurt and stir one of my fruits into it. That way I don't get added sugar in my yogurt.
  • atypicalsmith
    atypicalsmith Posts: 2,742 Member
    Didn't realize I was judging, sorry.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    vintem wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Where'd that 21 g come from? MFP gives me 77. If it came from your doctor, discuss with him/her.

    You're right the limit is not 21, it's 45... but I pass it everyday...

    Not sure why your limit is so much smaller than mine, but letting it go.


    It's 15% of calories.

    It's 45 grams for people on 1200.

    As for why a young guy like OP seems to be is on 1200, beats me.
  • iLoveMyPitbull1225
    iLoveMyPitbull1225 Posts: 1,690 Member
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/1618549841215020/

    Some fruits have higher sugar content than others. This chart is just one example that shows the differences high to low. If you are worried about it, try choosing fruits on the lower end. If you are still within your calorie goals then I don't think you should worry about it.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    vintem wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Where'd that 21 g come from? MFP gives me 77. If it came from your doctor, discuss with him/her.

    You're right the limit is not 21, it's 45... but I pass it everyday...

    Not sure why your limit is so much smaller than mine, but letting it go.

    I pass the limit on fat almost everyday, but since my goal is to lose a pound per week, and I am losing a pound per week, I don't worry about it. Fat makes me feel full.

    I pay attention to how foods make me feel - I don't feel well after eating bread made from flour, so I eat it extremely rarely. I feel great after eating fruits, so eat them a lot. I feel awful after eating a pint of Ben & Jerry's, so only buy 4 ounce containers.



    Four ounces is a lot of ice cream.

    Eh, it's a bit more than the usual serving size.

    I'd feel crappy eating a whole pint of ice cream too, so I tend to eat only a serving or a bit more sometimes. (I have multiple pints in my refrigerator, though.)
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    vintem wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Where'd that 21 g come from? MFP gives me 77. If it came from your doctor, discuss with him/her.

    You're right the limit is not 21, it's 45... but I pass it everyday...

    Not sure why your limit is so much smaller than mine, but letting it go.


    It's 15% of calories.

    It's 45 grams for people on 1200.

    As for why a young guy like OP seems to be is on 1200, beats me.

    Thanks!

  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Didn't realize I was judging, sorry.

    I didn't feel judged.

    16 ounces was my previous serving size of ice cream, so in that context, 4 ounces is not a lot. Also, I'm a lot bigger than you so get a lot more calories than you do. On ice cream days, I've usually been swimming and gardening as well.

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    vintem wrote: »
    cbrook29 wrote: »
    Yeah MFP has me at a lot higher sugar. Fruit has fiber (typically) and other vitamins and is processed by the body differently than say High Frutose Corn Syrup. The body metabolizes these different sugars differently. Of course anything in abundance is bad. Fiber delays the delivery of Frutose to the liver. This is why I stopped drinking juice. The juice alone doesn't have the fiber. I think processed foods with sugar like Cola are far worse for you, simply keep eating fruit - just in moderation.

    According to this post, all sugars are processed the same
    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10197460/sugar-faq-june-2015/p1
    I didn't read it, but a lot of people think that all sugars are digested in exactly the same way. They say it all the time. They don't understand the digestive system at all. Of course different sugars are digested differently. Because they're different, lol.
    They have different components and will, of course, be broken down differently.

    Digestion really doesn't make a ton of difference. The effect on your weight isn't about how it's digested. It's about how much sugar you take in. It's about the calories.

    When you're losing weight, you want all the nutrition you can get for as few calories as you can. Keeps you healthy, let's you stay full. So, it makes some sense to take your sugar from fruit, which gives you nutrients you need.

    If you don't want to eat any sugar, that's your choice and I won't argue it. Everyone has to do what works for them.

    But you can eat your fruit if you want to. For an otherwise healthy person, fruit won't hurt.

    yea, no.

    sugar = sugar

    sorry..

    just because you want to believe that does not make it so.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    vintem wrote: »
    I have a 45g/day limit on sugar. I eat most of my sugar from fruits and/or non fat greek yogurt.
    Almost everyday I pass the sugar limit, eating 3 fruits a day and one yogurt.

    Is that really bad? Aren't sugars from fruits a good thing?

    OP - unless you have a medical condition there is no reason to avoid sugar.

    Just make sure that you maintain your deficit, hit macros, and micros, and you will be fine.
  • RaggedyAnnazon
    RaggedyAnnazon Posts: 183 Member
    As far as sugar in fruit go, I've never had negative effects from eating sugar through fruit. In fact, a good portion of the weight I lost the first time came from downing fruit like it was going out of style. I went from diabetic to nondiabetic while not worrying about my sugar limit when it came to obtaining it naturally.

    Most sugars you want to stay away from are the processed cane sugar and added sugar in foods and such, like flavored yogurt vs nonfat greek. I still use honey when I'm sick and agave for my tea and stevia for my coffee and that doesn't seem to change much, but I limit those greatly when I use them.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    vintem wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Where'd that 21 g come from? MFP gives me 77. If it came from your doctor, discuss with him/her.

    You're right the limit is not 21, it's 45... but I pass it everyday...

    Not sure why your limit is so much smaller than mine, but letting it go.

    It's 15% of calories.

    It's 45 grams for people on 1200.

    As for why a young guy like OP seems to be is on 1200, beats me.

    @vintem - how tall are you and how much do you weigh? 1200 calories is under the minimum recommendation for males.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    vintem wrote: »
    I have a 45g/day limit on sugar. I eat most of my sugar from fruits and/or non fat greek yogurt.
    Almost everyday I pass the sugar limit, eating 3 fruits a day and one yogurt.

    Is that really bad? Aren't sugars from fruits a good thing?

    fruits are good for you...they are packed with fiber, antioxidants, and all kinds of micro-nutrients...but sugar is sugar.

    that said, the recommendation for sugar on MFP is for added sugars and I believe it comes from the WHO...to my knowledge there is no DRA for sugar.

    Really, if you don't have a medical condition that warrants tracking your sugar and you don't have a "problem" with sugar...as in you eat *kitten* loads of it, I really wouldn't worry about it.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    vintem wrote: »
    I have a 45g/day limit on sugar. I eat most of my sugar from fruits and/or non fat greek yogurt.
    Almost everyday I pass the sugar limit, eating 3 fruits a day and one yogurt.

    Is that really bad? Aren't sugars from fruits a good thing?

    Hoping this does not get lost in the sugar debate debacle, so I'm bolding this...

    You're likely not eating enough. A 45 gram limit on sugar comes along with a 1200 calorie goal. That's for very short small and/or older women.

    The minimum amount for men to consume is 1500 calories a day.




  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    edited July 2015
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Didn't realize I was judging, sorry.

    I didn't feel judged.

    16 ounces was my previous serving size of ice cream, so in that context, 4 ounces is not a lot. Also, I'm a lot bigger than you so get a lot more calories than you do. On ice cream days, I've usually been swimming and gardening as well.

    You'd likely have better results tracking in grams than ounces. Grams are much more precise. Your 4 ounce containers of ice cream might have more or less calories than stated on the label. They should have a corresponding gram weight listed. It might be helpful to scoop them out of the container and put them into a bowl.

    I started weighing prepackaged food on a whim, and boy was it a revelation!

  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »

    that said, the recommendation for sugar on MFP is for added sugars.

    Not for 18 months it isn't - it is total sugars from all sources.

    The WHO "free sugars" number would be about half MFP's number.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    vintem wrote: »
    cbrook29 wrote: »
    Yeah MFP has me at a lot higher sugar. Fruit has fiber (typically) and other vitamins and is processed by the body differently than say High Frutose Corn Syrup. The body metabolizes these different sugars differently. Of course anything in abundance is bad. Fiber delays the delivery of Frutose to the liver. This is why I stopped drinking juice. The juice alone doesn't have the fiber. I think processed foods with sugar like Cola are far worse for you, simply keep eating fruit - just in moderation.

    According to this post, all sugars are processed the same
    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10197460/sugar-faq-june-2015/p1
    I didn't read it, but a lot of people think that all sugars are digested in exactly the same way. They say it all the time. They don't understand the digestive system at all. Of course different sugars are digested differently. Because they're different, lol.
    They have different components and will, of course, be broken down differently.

    Digestion really doesn't make a ton of difference. The effect on your weight isn't about how it's digested. It's about how much sugar you take in. It's about the calories.

    When you're losing weight, you want all the nutrition you can get for as few calories as you can. Keeps you healthy, let's you stay full. So, it makes some sense to take your sugar from fruit, which gives you nutrients you need.

    If you don't want to eat any sugar, that's your choice and I won't argue it. Everyone has to do what works for them.

    But you can eat your fruit if you want to. For an otherwise healthy person, fruit won't hurt.

    yea, no.

    sugar = sugar

    sorry..

    just because you want to believe that does not make it so.
    I suspect that we have studied different things. Why don't you educate me? Compare the digestion of milk, peaches and cake frosting in detail. Don't single out just sugars, but do make sure to explain how all the sugars are identical and broken down in the same way.

    I do love it when you educate us all.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member

    The minimum amount for men to consume is 1500 calories a day.

    Where ?
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