Nutrition Myths
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That's not the problem. Fruit is fine. It's when people say it's a "different" type of sugar than candy or soda that frustrates me.0 -
My favorite one is that saturated fat and dietary cholesterol are bad, when in fact they are good--at least for men who wish to achieve and maintain high testosterone levels.0
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TheVirgoddess wrote: »TheVirgoddess wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »@astrampe Well, one could argue that since someone wouldn't recommend eating a couple teaspoons of sugar then maybe we shouldn't eat fruits which also may contain a ridiculous amount of sugar.
For example...1 apple contains 19g of sugar. That equals 4.75 tsps of sugar. No thanks!
It's like saying you wouldn't eat a piece of cake because you wouldn't eat 1/3 of a cup of flour or whatever.
Even so, that's not even 80 calories.
Actually, that's exactly what I'm saying. Cake has no nutrional value and is full of sugar.
OK my nutritional myth peeve is people who say that sugar is bad for you and don't explain why. WHY?
I am resistant to insulin so I cannot have sugar. Other people can have sugar but it's just not for me. In my original post I was commenting on the fact that people say sugar in fruit is different than the sugar in candy. Sugar is sugar, it doesn't matter where it came from.
This is false.
I had insulin resistance. You can, absolutely, have sugar.
I reversed my insulin resistance eating sugar and keeping my carbs around 150g/day. I still had coke at night, too.
You might find it easier to cut carbs, and avoid added sugar, but the statement that you cannot eat sugar is false.
Source or gtfo. Seriously.
I'd be happy to talk to you about my experience, research and success. When you stop being rude.
You only pointed out my insulin resistance, not the PCOS. I will never reverse my PCOS, only treat my symptoms. It was extremely rude of you to trivialize my experiences by saying my statement is completely false. You have no idea what I go through on a daily basis.
If your solution is to calorie count and exercise in order to get to a healthy BMI and suddenly all of my problems will dissapear...you are wrong. I am already at a healthy BMI. I'm 5'3" and 130lbs. I still have insulin resistance.
Sorry for the gtfo comment but I was really hurt by your statement.
I'm sorry if my statement hurt your feelings, that wasn't my intent.
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TheVirgoddess wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »@astrampe Well, one could argue that since someone wouldn't recommend eating a couple teaspoons of sugar then maybe we shouldn't eat fruits which also may contain a ridiculous amount of sugar.
For example...1 apple contains 19g of sugar. That equals 4.75 tsps of sugar. No thanks!
It's like saying you wouldn't eat a piece of cake because you wouldn't eat 1/3 of a cup of flour or whatever.
Even so, that's not even 80 calories.
Actually, that's exactly what I'm saying. Cake has no nutrional value and is full of sugar.
OK my nutritional myth peeve is people who say that sugar is bad for you and don't explain why. WHY?
I am resistant to insulin so I cannot have sugar. Other people can have sugar but it's just not for me. In my original post I was commenting on the fact that people say sugar in fruit is different than the sugar in candy. Sugar is sugar, it doesn't matter where it came from.
This is false.
I had insulin resistance. You can, absolutely, have sugar.
I reversed my insulin resistance eating sugar and keeping my carbs around 150g/day. I still had coke at night, too.
You might find it easier to cut carbs, and avoid added sugar, but the statement that you cannot eat sugar is false.
Source or gtfo. Seriously.
Your brain requires glucose to function, and can't get it from any other source than the breakdown of complex carbohydrates or sugars.
And ketones are just a figment of a scientist's imagination?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketone_bodies
Edit: added source
Adaptation to use ketones can reduce glucose requirements from 100g / day towards 50g / day in my recollection. They can not eliminate the need for glucose.
You really cannot eliminate glucose no matter how hard you try unless you only eat meat! The carbs I do get are from vegetables or trace carbs from spices etc. I can keep under 20 if I try very hard. I am also only counting net carbs which means I do not count fiber.
Got it...I was thinking that you were saying you could eat nothing with glucose (which seemed ridiculous). What you're saying here makes more sense and while I wasnt ruling out ketones, I definitely overstated what I said in haste. Thanks for the correction.0 -
it's the internet. that's like a thing people say.
Not really.
Forum rules prohibit profanity. Beyond that, it's pretty normal for people to interpret the use of it in that way as extremely rude. I'm really laissez faire about profanity and yet I'd find that rude if someone said it to me.i think she is incredibly concerned about you advising her to do something she considers extremely dangerous.
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it's the internet. that's like a thing people say. i think she is incredibly concerned about you advising her to do something she considers extremely dangerous.
i mean still you should link some sources if you have them, cause .. like i was saying.. misinformation... confusion... nutritional myths...
I advised no one to do anything.
The OP made the statement that she can't eat sugar because she has insulin resistance. I took that quote and corrected it. My correction was out of context in light of the rest of her medical issues. Her statement, in and of itself was incorrect.
There is zero indication that a person with insulin resistance cannot eat any sugar. The treatment for insulin resistance is to lose weight and exercise. Reducing sugar and carbs is also indicated.
If you want more information on it, read here:
http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/Diabetes/insulin-resistance-prediabetes/Pages/index.aspx
I'll point you to the important bit:What steps can help reverse insulin resistance and prediabetes?
By losing weight and being more physically active, people can reverse insulin resistance and prediabetes, thus preventing or delaying type 2 diabetes. People can decrease their risk by
eating a healthy diet and reaching and maintaining a healthy weight
increasing physical activity
not smoking
taking medication
Obviously I'm not commenting on the OP's particular situation. Let's just be clear about that.0 -
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