21 day detox of meat

naturallykinky wrote:

I just started working out with a trainer, he suggested that I drop eating meat for 21 days.

Why did he tell you to do this?
Exactly what "toxins" does he think you need to remove from your body?
How is abstaining from meat supposed to do that?
Why aren't your liver, colon, kidneys, lungs, & skin doing their job of removing real toxins?
Are you supposed to give up all animal flesh, or only from land animals, or what are the rules?
Why?
What are his nutritional credentials?
What body is his personal trainer certification through?
Does his trainer certification include nutritional counseling, or should his certifying body be made aware that he's
operating outside the scope of his practice?
Did he explain that in order to maintain muscle mass you need to eat protein?
Did he explain plant sources of protein, and how much more of those you'll have to eat to get the same protein?

As has been said before, ditch the trainer.
If he's that stupidsauce (love the term!) about one thing, how can you trust his advice on anything?
(And anyone who uses the term "detox" who is not a medical professional talking about a patient who is in the
ICU with severe poisoning is a moron and doesn't deserve to have their opinion given any consideration.)

Here's where you can search for people in your area who are certified by the American College of Sports Medicine:
http://members.acsm.org/source/custom/Online_locator/OnlineLocator.cfm

And here's a great place to search for scientific studies about anything health-related.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/
This part of their site even focuses on clinical effectiveness!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/

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I started this on Saturday, I'm not hungry, not missing meat either BUT, I haven't lost any weight since Saturday.
I have walked five miles since Saturday, and I can't tell any difference.
Do you think giving up meat for 21 days is worth it?

1 - You have 20 lb to lose. That's going to go slowly. 0.5 lb per week would be huge.
If you're already at a healthy weight (and your picture looks fine), any weight loss is going to be even slower.
2 - Walking 5 miles in 2 days isn't going to make any difference.
3 - You're unlikely to see any weight loss in 2 days, esp. with so little to lose.


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just because you stop eating meat doesn't mean you're going to lose weight

Very true.
I know a gal who's vegetarian (not sure if vegan), and has raised her girls the same, and they're all very fat.
Morbidly obese, even the children.
Her husband eats meat, and he's fat too.

That trainer is very badly informed about nutrition. And @shell1005, stupidsauce is my new favorite word.

I'm honestly starting to think that the trainer is one of the whack-a-doodle veg'ns, and is saying this as propaganda to get you to stop eating meat all together. It may be a stretch, but I wouldn't rule it all the way out... I have never heard of a professional trainer advising this.

naturallykinky wrote: »

I'm going to try to do at least 10 days of no meat just to see if my body feels different or not. Regardless to what the trainer says, this may just become a way of eating for me in the future. There's so much media that shows meat not being good for you, I just want to see if my body changes for the good.

Just starting reading this thread, but this really stood out to me was it sounds like Do you have any sources to support that information? Or did you hear it through the grape vine?

Eta: spelling- that autocorrect just doesn't want to behave lol.

Furbuster wrote: »

I've been reading this with much interest. About a year ago i watched a series on TV (BBC I think) about different diets around the world and another about how we process food and the speed it goes through.

The cultures that ate very little meat 'dispatched' their waste 3 times a day which was a lot faster and more frequent than heavy meat eaters.

The other programme did a simple test where people swallowed a camera and and watched to see how fast it appeared out the other end. For those that ate more meat and less veggies the time taken for the camera /pill took a lot longer to come out.

It was interesting - maybe you can find them on the web? I have no ideas of titles sorry.

That sounds a lot like a lack of dietary fiber to me, which would be a sign of a poor diet, not a direct consequence of the meat itself.

I'm a vegetarian and overweight, so I think his/her theory is wrong :P

KittensMaster wrote: »

Detox = Run away

Unless you have been exposed to uranium at work at the power plant with Homer Simpson....

Chances are a detox is not required.

Hahaha

You should demand a refund and then use the money you spent on his stupid advice to go and buy a hamburger with bacon served with a side of chicken tenders. Make sure you log it though.

naturallykinky wrote: »

I'm going to try to do at least 10 days of no meat just to see if my body feels different or not. Regardless to what the trainer says, this may just become a way of eating for me in the future. There's so much media that shows meat not being good for you, I just want to see if my body changes for the good.

PLEASE MAKE SURE if you're going vegan on a caloric deficit that you are HYPER VIGILANT about your nutrients. Learn from my fail. Four surgeries, 3 plates, a bazillion screws, young onset of osteoporosis, anemia, hypoglycemia, recurrent frostbite, unable to donate blood.... I've spent 4 years trying to undo the damage I did. If you're doing this solely for health, I think you should reconsider weighing the potential benefits vs. potential harm.

ultrahoon wrote: »

Furbuster wrote: »

I've been reading this with much interest. About a year ago i watched a series on TV (BBC I think) about different diets around the world and another about how we process food and the speed it goes through.

The cultures that ate very little meat 'dispatched' their waste 3 times a day which was a lot faster and more frequent than heavy meat eaters.

The other programme did a simple test where people swallowed a camera and and watched to see how fast it appeared out the other end. For those that ate more meat and less veggies the time taken for the camera /pill took a lot longer to come out.

It was interesting - maybe you can find them on the web? I have no ideas of titles sorry.

That sounds a lot like a lack of dietary fiber to me, which would be a sign of a poor diet, not a direct consequence of the meat itself.

Yup, "meat = toxic" is sexier than "eat more fiber" so that's the message the media is inclined to put out.

(That was a general reference, not in reply to Furbuster's post.)

hekla90 wrote: »

if you put even some thought into your diet

^^this is what I'm saying. (Please note I loved being vegan, and ANY diet can contribute to nutrient problems. Being vegan didn't "cause" my osteoporosis, either, but it contributed.)

Is OP ever going to come back? I want to know if she had a talkin' to with her "trainer."