It's not a diet it's a ..
azucker88
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It's not a diet, it's a lifestyle change!
Crash diets do not work, for long term results. Eating clean, and healthy will help you lose weight and/ or maintain your weight, but really it's a lifestyle change not a diet.
Mini vent.
Crash diets do not work, for long term results. Eating clean, and healthy will help you lose weight and/ or maintain your weight, but really it's a lifestyle change not a diet.
Mini vent.
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Eating clean is not a prerequisite to losing weight, or keeping it off.0
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I could change my lifestyle and eat what might be considered clean and healthy but in a caloric surplus ( esp putting away nuts and nut butters, coconut oil/milk, avocados, etc).
It's about energy balance and imbalance. An imbalance is what's necessary both to gain and lose weight. And balance is what's necessary to stay the same.
Whatever you eat, this is so.0 -
I agree for me it's a lifestyle change, but each person finds what works for them. You don't have to eat clean or healthy to lose weight, you just have to eat less calories than what you burn.0
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Personally ... I'm on a diet.
I am deliberately eating fewer calories than I burn.
I have absolutely no intention to make this a "lifestyle" thing. I do not want to continue eating fewer calories than I burn. At some point in the relatively near future, I will reach my goal and return to my usual "lifestyle".
You see, I did the calculations and over the past 4 years, I consumed an extra 79 cal/day on average to reach my peak weight. In other words, my lifestyle was pretty close to right. 79 cal/day is not much. So I'm in an adjustment phase right now - a diet - and when I return to my lifestyle, I'll just watch the intake a bit ... or exercise a bit more.
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If you're in a deficit and counting your calories so you don't go over your deficit, then you're on a diet. ..0
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It's not a diet, it's a lifestyle change!
Crash diets do not work, for long term results. Eating clean, and healthy will help you lose weight and/ or maintain your weight, but really it's a lifestyle change not a diet.
Mini vent.
Try saying this on repeat over a dozen times a day everyday for four years. I work in a supplement shop and have this speech down 0 -
christinev297 wrote: »If you're in a deficit and counting your calories so you don't go over your deficit, then you're on a diet. ..
Your diet is what you eat. It's not a diet, it's just what you eat period. There are different types of diets if that's what you're getting at0 -
Personally ... I'm on a diet.
I am deliberately eating fewer calories than I burn.
I have absolutely no intention to make this a "lifestyle" thing. I do not want to continue eating fewer calories than I burn. At some point in the relatively near future, I will reach my goal and return to my usual "lifestyle".
You see, I did the calculations and over the past 4 years, I consumed an extra 79 cal/day on average to reach my peak weight. In other words, my lifestyle was pretty close to right. 79 cal/day is not much. So I'm in an adjustment phase right now - a diet - and when I return to my lifestyle, I'll just watch the intake a bit ... or exercise a bit more.
Don't be surprised if you gain your weight back. Not trying to be mean...0 -
lmaharidge wrote: »Personally ... I'm on a diet.
I am deliberately eating fewer calories than I burn.
I have absolutely no intention to make this a "lifestyle" thing. I do not want to continue eating fewer calories than I burn. At some point in the relatively near future, I will reach my goal and return to my usual "lifestyle".
You see, I did the calculations and over the past 4 years, I consumed an extra 79 cal/day on average to reach my peak weight. In other words, my lifestyle was pretty close to right. 79 cal/day is not much. So I'm in an adjustment phase right now - a diet - and when I return to my lifestyle, I'll just watch the intake a bit ... or exercise a bit more.
Don't be surprised if you gain your weight back. Not trying to be mean...
I have been slender most of my life ... just gained a little bit in the last 4 years. I don't see any reason why I wouldn't continue to be slender. But if I do gain that little bit of weight back ... oh well, I'll just lose it again. No biggie.
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lmaharidge wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »If you're in a deficit and counting your calories so you don't go over your deficit, then you're on a diet. ..
Your diet is what you eat. It's not a diet, it's just what you eat period. There are different types of diets if that's what you're getting at
I use the word diet as it is most often used. You "diet" to lose weight. When you aren't trying to lose weight, then you are no longer on a diet.
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christinev297 wrote: »lmaharidge wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »If you're in a deficit and counting your calories so you don't go over your deficit, then you're on a diet. ..
Your diet is what you eat. It's not a diet, it's just what you eat period. There are different types of diets if that's what you're getting at
I use the word diet as it is most often used. You "diet" to lose weight. When you aren't trying to lose weight, then you are no longer on a diet.
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And I have no desire (or need) to remain on a diet for the rest of my life. But right now, it is helping me make a minor adjustment.
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It's a diet.
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I am on a diet AND I am making a lifestyle change.
I am not offended by the word diet, as I am restricting myself at the moment, but I will not always be restricting myself this severely. When I get to my goal, I will be restricting myself in a mild and manageable way in order to maintain my weight and I will be continuing to log.
My lifestyle needed to change because when I was just doing my thing (eating everything appealing in quantities that pleased me) I was getting as fat as a little piggy. I was also tired all the time and my skin and health were suffering.
I want to keep making better food choices in smaller quantities as I am too vain, busy and adventurous to be fat.0 -
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And any thought that this might be a "lifestyle" is really disheartening and demotivating.
That said, I will take certain things I've discovered in the past few months with me when I get to the "lifestyle" part. For example, in my search for low-cal foods, I discovered a certain line of soups I really like. One in particular is now my new favourite lunch. I don't plan to give that up! It's a win-win thing for me ... low cal + really tasty.0 -
lmaharidge wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »If you're in a deficit and counting your calories so you don't go over your deficit, then you're on a diet. ..
Your diet is what you eat. It's not a diet, it's just what you eat period. There are different types of diets if that's what you're getting at
Yes, your diet is what you eat. That's one way the word "diet" refers. When people say they are on a diet they typically mean they are purposefully restricting their intake in some fashion to achieve an energy imbalance for weight loss. That's another way the word "diet" refers.
Usage is how words are defined. The dictionary records usage, it doesn't prescribe one solitary definition of any given word that society must be beholden to for all time.lmaharidge wrote: »Personally ... I'm on a diet.
I am deliberately eating fewer calories than I burn.
I have absolutely no intention to make this a "lifestyle" thing. I do not want to continue eating fewer calories than I burn. At some point in the relatively near future, I will reach my goal and return to my usual "lifestyle".
You see, I did the calculations and over the past 4 years, I consumed an extra 79 cal/day on average to reach my peak weight. In other words, my lifestyle was pretty close to right. 79 cal/day is not much. So I'm in an adjustment phase right now - a diet - and when I return to my lifestyle, I'll just watch the intake a bit ... or exercise a bit more.
Don't be surprised if you gain your weight back. Not trying to be mean...
Yes you are, she explained what she meant and you ignored it.
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....it's a way of life! There is no temporary thing when it comes to eating healthy and maintaining your weight!0
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Lifestyle change is a trendy phrase and some of this lifestyle change vs diet talk just seems to be arguing about semantics to me.
Yes you are restricting your calories to lose weight and not over eating calories to maintain weight.
Yes if you want this to be Long term the changes need to be long term.
But whether you call that a diet or a lifestyle change is really semantics.0 -
"Diet" accurately and concisely conveys information. "Lifestyle change" conveys nothing. It is an affectation and a waste of breath.0
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Lourdesong wrote: »lmaharidge wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »If you're in a deficit and counting your calories so you don't go over your deficit, then you're on a diet. ..
Your diet is what you eat. It's not a diet, it's just what you eat period. There are different types of diets if that's what you're getting at
Yes, your diet is what you eat. That's one way the word "diet" refers. When people say they are on a diet they typically mean they are purposefully restricting their intake in some fashion to achieve an energy imbalance for weight loss. That's another way the word "diet" refers.
Usage is how words are defined. The dictionary records usage, it doesn't prescribe one solitary definition of any given word that society must be beholden to for all time.lmaharidge wrote: »Personally ... I'm on a diet.
I am deliberately eating fewer calories than I burn.
I have absolutely no intention to make this a "lifestyle" thing. I do not want to continue eating fewer calories than I burn. At some point in the relatively near future, I will reach my goal and return to my usual "lifestyle".
You see, I did the calculations and over the past 4 years, I consumed an extra 79 cal/day on average to reach my peak weight. In other words, my lifestyle was pretty close to right. 79 cal/day is not much. So I'm in an adjustment phase right now - a diet - and when I return to my lifestyle, I'll just watch the intake a bit ... or exercise a bit more.
Don't be surprised if you gain your weight back. Not trying to be mean...
Yes you are, she explained what she meant and you ignored it.
And context is a also important. You knew when she said diet she meant the cutting calories meaning the word. Stop arguing over semantics.
You're both right and you're both wrong. Deal with it like that adults I hope you are.0 -
"Eating clean" and "lifestyle change" are frilly buzzwords. I lost my weight while eating more whole foods than some clean eaters I know. I restricted my calories and now I'm trying to find maintenance, so no lifestyle change here.
Call it what you want, as long as your CI<CO.
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I agree with those who said the term "lifestyle change" is just another fad to make eating healthily sound more appealing. Personally, it irritates me a lot - just because I'm eating healthily and enjoying exercise now, whereas before I didn't do either, doesn't mean I've had a lifestyle change. My life isn't that sad that it's entirely focussed on food etc. Changing job? Yes, a new lifestyle. Moving to a new country? Yes, also. Eating more vegetables? No.0
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Alatariel75 wrote: »Eating clean is not a prerequisite to losing weight, or keeping it off.
While eating clean is not a prerequisite, it would be interesting to see how many MFPers "clean up" their diets as part of their success. Not just eating less food, but if there is a shift in the frequency they enjoy certain highly processed or high calorie foods (in any quantity), or if they begin including more whole foods.
Many people here may not "eat clean," but I suspect that some clean eating principles (eating more whole foods, for example) probably contribute to a lot of the success we see here. I think it would be neat see some comparisons of how people ate before and after.0 -
And while we're at it, let's stop talking about "journeys."0
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It's not a diet, it's a lifestyle change!
Why can't it be both? A diet just means that you are intentionally eating less than your maintenance calories in some way, which I am doing.
Personally, how much eating less is a "lifestyle change" probably depends on what specific changes you make. I cooked a lot and ate nutritious meals before, so that part isn't really a "lifestyle change." I'm back to being more mindful and include a lot more intentional activity in my life, so that is a "lifestyle change," I guess, although my "lifestyle" involves much beyond eating and working out. I think I am prioritizing health and activity higher in my list of priorities, so that's a change.Crash diets do not work, for long term results.
I generally agree. You can't think something is just temporary and doing something non-sustainable doesn't work.Eating clean, and healthy will help you lose weight and/ or maintain your weight, but really it's a lifestyle change not a diet.
"Eating clean" means nothing--or at least it means different things to different people. The most common definition is cutting out "processed" foods, and personally I don't see why avoiding the smoked salmon I ate this morning or yogurt or other processed items that I find helpful in meeting my nutrition goals would be helpful to losing weight.
I agree that eating healthy can help and am very much in favor of that myself, although it's not necessary if someone isn't interested/motivated.Mini vent.
Prompted by what? Just curious.
My own pet peeve isn't the term "diet"--which again I just think means eating at a deficit--but the bizarre "journey" thing. Journey to what? Why is it a journey?
Ah, well. ;-)0 -
sheldonklein wrote: »And while we're at it, let's stop talking about "journeys."
Heh, you beat me to it!0 -
Many people here may not "eat clean," but I suspect that some clean eating principles (eating more whole foods, for example) probably contribute to a lot of the success we see here. I think it would be neat see some comparisons of how people ate before and after.
I don't see why something so normal and common as eating lots of whole foods (or lots of vegetables, for that matter) should be considered a "clean eating principle." Nor is caring about nutrition a "clean eating principle." I do these things (and did when I was getting fat--I do eat better and more mindfully, but it has nothing to do with "processed foods," which is an enormously broad category).
I also dislike the term "clean up ones diet" when what is really meant is "eating in a healthier fashion." Sure, I do the latter (although again I ate vegetables and no fast food prior to losing weight--the assumption that fat people must eat poor quality foods and not just too many calories is annoying), but that has zero to do with "eating clean" or "cleaning up" anything. I don't have any need to justify the merits of my own diet by calling foods others eat--or foods I eat, like cottage cheese or ice cream (both processed)--"unclean."0 -
"Great minds . . ." etc.lemurcat12 wrote: »sheldonklein wrote: »And while we're at it, let's stop talking about "journeys."
Heh, you beat me to it!
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This didn't mean to come across self righteous or rude or insensitive, but I've read a lot of people trying to lose a lot of weight( 50 or more lbs) and they do these crash or fad diets, I don't think it's realistic to keep the weight off after using these methods. If you just incorporate healthy eating into your lifestyle while working out I feel that's more sustainable for long term success, again it's just my opinion and every one is entitled to their own. And I think lifestyle change is a fitting word, not a fad word for a lot of people. I think this because a lot of people spent a lot of their days obsessing about food, and how much and what they were going to eat next, and over indulging, myself included until I decided to completely change the way I saw food and made this change, food is a struggle for alot of people. Before I was depressed, and binge ate and wasn't active, so yea, this was a lifestyle change for me. 0
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I think people use the words "lifestyle change" too loosely. Simply cutting back on the amount of food one eats is not a lifestyle change.
Calling a "diet" a "lifestyle change" is done too often. If you want to change your whole lifestyle, that means doing more than eating less food.
I've made lifestyle changes and I'm dieting. Dieting is just one part of the many changes.0
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