Do you add alcohol to your food diary

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  • TuffChixRule
    TuffChixRule Posts: 190 Member
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    I have an Angry Orchard hard cider a few times a week and I log it. 220 calories for 12 ounces means I only drink one though.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
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    alcohol is like drinking liquid fat. last to be metabolised. of course you add it like you would add everything else

    If you're in a deficit, why does it matter if you're metabolizing it last?
  • tincanonastring
    tincanonastring Posts: 3,944 Member
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    alcohol is like drinking liquid fat. last to be metabolised. of course you add it like you would add everything else

    If you're in a deficit, why does it matter if you're metabolizing it last?

    Because magical fatcohol isn't burdened by the laws of thermodynamics.
  • xjessicaxrx
    xjessicaxrx Posts: 144 Member
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    alcohol is like drinking liquid fat. last to be metabolised. of course you add it like you would add everything else

    No that is incorrect. It gets metabolised by your liver, prioritised over food to get it out of your body quicker. Therefor when you drink alcohol you go to the toilet more.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
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    alcohol is like drinking liquid fat. last to be metabolised. of course you add it like you would add everything else

    If you're in a deficit, why does it matter if you're metabolizing it last?

    Because magical fatcohol isn't burdened by the laws of thermodynamics.

    I knew the world seemed more magical after a couple of drinks. Finally, science validates MY reality!
  • 6502programmer
    6502programmer Posts: 515 Member
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    alcohol is like drinking liquid fat. last to be metabolised. of course you add it like you would add everything else

    No that is incorrect. It gets metabolised by your liver, prioritised over food to get it out of your body quicker. Therefor when you drink alcohol you go to the toilet more.

    Umm, no. Alcohol is a diuretic, which makes you go to the bathroom. That's a function of elimination of water. Paired with that is that alcohol is consumed as a solution with water. That also serves to make you go to the bathroom. It has nothing to do with the thoroughly and completely documented metabolic pathways.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
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    alcohol is like drinking liquid fat. last to be metabolised. of course you add it like you would add everything else

    If you're in a deficit, why does it matter if you're metabolizing it last?

    ya..but it's just stupid to put something in your body that's going to be housed permanently...esp. in a deficit when you need high energy foods to fuel your workouts

    You didn't say it would be "housed permanently." You said it would be metabolized last -- but if you're in a deficit, it will still be metabolized.

    We don't hold on to the energy from alcohol forever. I agree that we need high energy foods to fuel our fitness goals. I disagree that means we should never drink while maintaining a deficit.
  • mmnv79
    mmnv79 Posts: 538 Member
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    glitzy196 wrote: »
    I don't drink except on specialish occasions. The amount of calories it has is enough to keep me from doing it.

    Same here. I occasionally have a cider or a beer, but that's it. For example a pint of Bulmers Original has nearly 300 calories and 5 tablespoons of sugar. :o
  • xjessicaxrx
    xjessicaxrx Posts: 144 Member
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    alcohol is like drinking liquid fat. last to be metabolised. of course you add it like you would add everything else

    No that is incorrect. It gets metabolised by your liver, prioritised over food to get it out of your body quicker. Therefor when you drink alcohol you go to the toilet more.

    Umm, no. Alcohol is a diuretic, which makes you go to the bathroom. That's a function of elimination of water. Paired with that is that alcohol is consumed as a solution with water. That also serves to make you go to the bathroom. It has nothing to do with the thoroughly and completely documented metabolic pathways.

    I did a lot of research as one of my projects when I studied Human Biology, and if your simply google it, the evidence is there in black and white. If alcohol was "liquid fat" i would not have lost 23lb since the beginning of June while still drinking lots most weekends.
  • tincanonastring
    tincanonastring Posts: 3,944 Member
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    alcohol is like drinking liquid fat. last to be metabolised. of course you add it like you would add everything else

    If you're in a deficit, why does it matter if you're metabolizing it last?

    ya..but it's just stupid to put something in your body that's going to be housed permanently...esp. in a deficit when you need high energy foods to fuel your workouts

    It's impossible to gain fat ("house permanently") while in a deficit. d1Z-thats-not-how-it-works-thats-not-how-any-of-this-works.jpg
  • Kimegatron
    Kimegatron Posts: 772 Member
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    I always thought that it gets metabolized FIRST, not last... Taking priority to burn over consumed foods, like @xjessicaxrx said.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
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    I choose not to drink so "NO" is my answer. I have seen to many people destroy their lives with that stuff and not to mention the calories in it is to much for me. I will have my dessert instead. :smiley:
    I've seen folks destroy their lives with dessert. :smiley:
  • Kimegatron
    Kimegatron Posts: 772 Member
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    I choose not to drink so "NO" is my answer. I have seen to many people destroy their lives with that stuff and not to mention the calories in it is to much for me. I will have my dessert instead. :smiley:
    I've seen folks destroy their lives with dessert. :smiley:

    I have also seen that, as well as seen people destroy their lives just because they are a complete p.o.s. I used to have a straight edge friend who is a prime example. USED to have that friend.
  • Kimegatron
    Kimegatron Posts: 772 Member
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    alcohol is like drinking liquid fat. last to be metabolised. of course you add it like you would add everything else

    If you're in a deficit, why does it matter if you're metabolizing it last?

    ya..but it's just stupid to put something in your body that's going to be housed permanently...esp. in a deficit when you need high energy foods to fuel your workouts

    You didn't say it would be "housed permanently." You said it would be metabolized last -- but if you're in a deficit, it will still be metabolized.

    We don't hold on to the energy from alcohol forever. I agree that we need high energy foods to fuel our fitness goals. I disagree that means we should never drink while maintaining a deficit.

    i meant in a state of excess..The beer belly phenomenon; but of course you are free to justify your cravings

    I was told by many reputable people here, that beer belly is a myth. I made a thread about it a long time ago, because I wanted to make sure I could still have my cake and drink it too.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
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    alcohol is like drinking liquid fat. last to be metabolised. of course you add it like you would add everything else

    If you're in a deficit, why does it matter if you're metabolizing it last?

    ya..but it's just stupid to put something in your body that's going to be housed permanently...esp. in a deficit when you need high energy foods to fuel your workouts

    You didn't say it would be "housed permanently." You said it would be metabolized last -- but if you're in a deficit, it will still be metabolized.

    We don't hold on to the energy from alcohol forever. I agree that we need high energy foods to fuel our fitness goals. I disagree that means we should never drink while maintaining a deficit.

    i meant in a state of excess..The beer belly phenomenon; but of course you are free to justify your cravings

    Isn't anything consumed in excess of energy needs going to be housed by the body? Why is alcohol unique in this regard?

    This has nothing to do with my cravings (I'm maintaining my weight loss just fine). I'm trying to understand what you're trying to communicate here.