avoiding carbs makes you lose weight

So much wrong there it makes me sad. You can't be an omnivore. They haven't found a term to classify a modern humans digestive system yet. You can't build the best muscle possible heading towards the vegan side of things. Unless of course you want to supplement from the non vegan side of things. You CANNOT get a complete protein profile from that strategy and you CANNOT get B12, which humans need, from that kind of diet with out supplements.

Huh? Omnivore at this point simply means eats both animal and plant based food. Real simple, herbavores eat plant stuff only. Carnivores eat meat only, omnivores eat both animal and plant based food. I am an omnivore. I am not talking about my digestive system I am talking about what I eat. I never said I was vegan, I said I was an unrepentant omnivore meaning again, I eat animal products along with the plant products. And yeah, I wasn't talking about B12, and no animals are not the only source of B12 you can actually get it from Miso which is a fermented soy product. But again, not a vegan. I may someday veer toward vegetarian but I would never completely become a vegetarian hence the "unrepentant" comment.

And yeah you actually can get complete proteins through plant sources. For example peanuts are a dicot protein while grains such as wheat, oats, corn ect are monocot proteins. To get a complete protein you can do a simple PB&J and tada you have a complete protein. Just because plant sources aren't complete in and of themselves, does not mean you can't complete them by pairing. You can actually do that just fine.

You're proving the stereotype of drummers.

A very low tolerance for dietary and nutritional myths? ;-)

Like your Insulin and fat comment?

Humans really aren't a true anything in terms of digestive system. More like a garbage disposal. Some need to understand how insulin results in fat. Saying it doesn't is flat out ridiculous. That's it's job when glycogen stores are full.

What you eat does not classify you as an herbivore, omnivore, carnivore, etc.. your digestive system and biochemical needs do. Humans do not fit any of them.

"Our bodies were not designed to eat carbs and can do very well without them."

That right there made me completely disregard the legitimacy of your guru. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude. But there's a reason carbs are the biggest part of the food triangle. Our body needs them.

Your body stores carbs in muscles. Carbs are necessary for your Retinas to work, your central nervous system, your immune system and your muscles, it goes on. You need carbs.

The reason people lose weight by keeping out carbs is that your body will cannibalize your muscle to get the carbs needed for other systems. It cannot make them with other things, unlike proteins. Muscle weighs more then fat, so you'll lose weight, and fast, but when you're done your metabolism will be lower then when you started.

Moderation is the key. Limit your carbs, but don't completely cut them out.

What you eat does not classify you as an herbivore, omnivore, carnivore, etc.. your digestive system and biochemical needs do. Humans do not fit any of them.

The term "real simple" must simply escape you or you're trying to be difficult on purpose. Until they find the proper term for our digestive system I'm going with what fits us the closest and that would be omnivore. Thank you very much.

Really? I've read that the human digestive tract most closely resembles animals that are herbivorous.

I've been reading all of these posts and I am beginning to cut back on carbs to help shake things up a bit. I was wondering if anyone knows of a website that has a good list of low or no carb foods? I did a google search but it was a little overwhelming. I just had scrambled eggs for breakfast - dairy - is this OK? I think they are low on carbs but what about dairy? What about cottage cheese? I know - I need to read some labels but a list would be so helpful!
Thank you.

Really? I've read that the human digestive tract most closely resembles animals that are herbivorous.

No way. It does not resemble a herbivourous g.i. tract at all. It is actually very comparable to a carnivore's system

No, I know that's not true. Carnivores have a very short digestive tract because they don't have to break down all the fiber in vegetation. My question was about the difference between herbivore and omnivore. Obviously we can and do eat meat so that makes sense. But I'll just Google it.

You are misinformed. Herbivores are either fore-gut fermentors, like sheep and cows, and have huge four-compartment stomachs (nothing like humans), or hind-gut fermentors like horses or rabbits, where they have huge colons, where the bulk of the digestion occurs. Human digestive tracts are much more comparable to something like a cat (obligate carnivore) or dogs ( Carnivore / omnivore).

Actually based on their guts both cats and dogs are carnivore, which I found a little startling since so many are fed a diet of primary corn. But we don't closely match them. We're pigs. No surprise there.

Really? I've read that the human digestive tract most closely resembles animals that are herbivorous.

No way. It does not resemble a herbivourous g.i. tract at all. It is actually very comparable to a carnivore's system

No, I know that's not true. Carnivores have a very short digestive tract because they don't have to break down all the fiber in vegetation. My question was about the difference between herbivore and omnivore. Obviously we can and do eat meat so that makes sense. But I'll just Google it.

You are misinformed. Herbivores are either fore-gut fermentors, like sheep and cows, and have huge four-compartment stomachs (nothing like humans), or hind-gut fermentors like horses or rabbits, where they have huge colons, where the bulk of the digestion occurs. Human digestive tracts are much more comparable to something like a cat (obligate carnivore) or dogs ( Carnivore / omnivore).

Actually based on their guts both cats and dogs are carnivore, which I found a little startling since so many are fed a diet of primary corn. But we don't closely match them. We're pigs. No surprise there.

Whatever.


Thank you HPSnickers for weighing in. We (humans) are actually in the middle in the spectrum of things. My point was if you look at overall 'design', our g.i. tract is much more carnivore than herbivore in nature.

"Our bodies were not designed to eat carbs and can do very well without them."

That right there made me completely disregard the legitimacy of your guru. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude. But there's a reason carbs are the biggest part of the food triangle. Our body needs them.

Your body stores carbs in muscles. Carbs are necessary for your Retinas to work, your central nervous system, your immune system and your muscles, it goes on. You need carbs.

The reason people lose weight by keeping out carbs is that your body will cannibalize your muscle to get the carbs needed for other systems. It cannot make them with other things, unlike proteins. Muscle weighs more then fat, so you'll lose weight, and fast, but when you're done your metabolism will be lower then when you started.

Moderation is the key. Limit your carbs, but don't completely cut them out.

Go and rent the video FATHEAD and then we can talk. The food pyramid reflects the governments need to promote grain consumption to lift the economy. It is politics, pure and simple. It has nothing, what so ever to do with nutrition.