Does the fat content in food make you fat?

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  • cityruss
    cityruss Posts: 2,493 Member
    OP.

    You are eating far too little to sufficiently provide the essential nutrition your body needs.

    You are aiming for an unhealthy BMI that puts you in the underweight category (17.5). A BMI of 18.5 - 25 is considered healthy for a male of 5ft11.

    Your profile screams disordered body image.

    Seek help.
  • polenate
    polenate Posts: 19 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    polenate wrote: »
    So the fact I've eaten 1072 calories and my BMR alone is 1644 means I will be losing weight right now even though Ive had the crisps? Should I add the calories that are in the carbohydrates, fat etc. to that total of 1072 is the calories in the carbs, fat etc. included on the back of the packet?

    You mean you've eaten 1072 calories just today and will eat the rest of your calories in dinner?

    To lose weight, you eat below your TDEE, not your BMR
    Just stay within your calorie goals and you will lose weight, but don't eat too low because you wan to make sure your body is properly fueled.

    I've eaten 1072 calories including dinner. It's 9pm at night here.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    hunnnybee wrote: »
    I am proof that it is not calories. I am almost alawys under my calorie count and not losing weight. I find that I can eat high fat and lose weight as long as I do not eat carbs for it to switch to burning instead. If I eat high fat and high carb I get extra tubby fast; so n BLT's :-(
    It is calories. Start a thread and you'll receive help.


    OP, no, the fat content does not make you fat. Under eating, will however make you sick. You're a male, why are you doing this? The minimum you should be consuming is 1500 calories.

    From the OP's profile:

    Why I want to get in shape
    Although my friends always tell me that I don't need to lose weight, and that I'm slim enough already (At the moment I'm 9st 13lbs and 5'11 with a BMI of 19.3) I just can't shake the feeling of feeling slightly tubby. It's mainly a confidence boosting thing, if I'm smaller, I feel more confident and ready to take on the world. As a performing artist, in the art of drag, I need to stay slender and trim.
    Well, looking at that, losing 13 lb like the goal meter says will put him at a BMI of 17.6, which is underweight. That's not good.

    Not good?

    That is actually in the medical class of "anorexic".
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    polenate wrote: »
    polenate wrote: »
    Are the calories in the carbohydrates, fat etc. included in the total calories on the back of the packet? Or do I have to add those in separately?

    You don't have to count the calories in the carbohydrates and fat separately. They're included in the total calories.

    Really? So the 130 calories in a 25g of crisps will include the calories that are in the carbohydrates and fat?

    I'm not following where you are going. 130 calories is 130 calorie no matter where it comes from, so whatever macros are in your food make up the calorie count. No matter what you eat, you will lose weigth if you stay within your calorie goals.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    hunnnybee wrote: »
    I am proof that it is not calories. I am almost alawys under my calorie count and not losing weight. I find that I can eat high fat and lose weight as long as I do not eat carbs for it to switch to burning instead. If I eat high fat and high carb I get extra tubby fast; so n BLT's :-(

    I was curious about this, so I looked at your diary for the past 2 weeks. You are always under 1200 cals a day. This is not healthy, or you are not logging everything you eat. Alot you are missing entries, so think it must be the latter. If you say you are not losing, it's incorrect logging. Best. B)
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    polenate wrote: »
    polenate wrote: »
    Are the calories in the carbohydrates, fat etc. included in the total calories on the back of the packet? Or do I have to add those in separately?

    You don't have to count the calories in the carbohydrates and fat separately. They're included in the total calories.

    Really? So the 130 calories in a 25g of crisps will include the calories that are in the carbohydrates and fat?

    Yes -- the calories in food come from either carbohydrate, fat, or protein. The calories in these three components will make up the total calories for a food. The total calories are what you need to pay attention to for weight loss (or gain). If you have specific macronutrient goals (many of us try to hit certain ranges for carbs, fat, and protein), the label will also tell you how much of a macronutrient is in a food. But you can go over a goal for a macronutrient like fat (or carbs) and still lose weight if you are in a deficit.
  • polenate
    polenate Posts: 19 Member
    My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    polenate wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    polenate wrote: »
    So the fact I've eaten 1072 calories and my BMR alone is 1644 means I will be losing weight right now even though Ive had the crisps? Should I add the calories that are in the carbohydrates, fat etc. to that total of 1072 is the calories in the carbs, fat etc. included on the back of the packet?

    You mean you've eaten 1072 calories just today and will eat the rest of your calories in dinner?

    To lose weight, you eat below your TDEE, not your BMR
    Just stay within your calorie goals and you will lose weight, but don't eat too low because you wan to make sure your body is properly fueled.

    I've eaten 1072 calories including dinner. It's 9pm at night here.

    You seem to be obsessing over a bag of chips, and you are eating an unhealhty amount of food, signaling disordred eating. You need to seek profesisonal help for this. :)
  • KarenJanine
    KarenJanine Posts: 3,497 Member
    polenate wrote: »
    My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.

    Losing more weight is not going to fix your body image. You need professional help.

  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    polenate wrote: »
    My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.

    How about talking to a specialist about it? B)
  • polenate
    polenate Posts: 19 Member
    The 1072 calories includes the 2 packets of crisps, by the way.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    polenate wrote: »
    My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.

    You should listen to your friends. It sounds like they have your best interests in mind. Sometimes it's hard for us to see ourselves as we really are.

    When you're in the middle of something like this, it may seem like there is only one way to fix it -- but there are other solutions out there, other ways to deal with what you're struggling with. You're very thin. Losing weight won't change what YOU see in the mirror. You don't see a thin person now, why do you think that will change if you lose weight?
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    hunnnybee wrote: »
    I am proof that it is not calories. I am almost alawys under my calorie count and not losing weight. I find that I can eat high fat and lose weight as long as I do not eat carbs for it to switch to burning instead. If I eat high fat and high carb I get extra tubby fast; so n BLT's :-(
    It is calories. Start a thread and you'll receive help.


    OP, no, the fat content does not make you fat. Under eating, will however make you sick. You're a male, why are you doing this? The minimum you should be consuming is 1500 calories.

    From the OP's profile:

    Why I want to get in shape
    Although my friends always tell me that I don't need to lose weight, and that I'm slim enough already (At the moment I'm 9st 13lbs and 5'11 with a BMI of 19.3) I just can't shake the feeling of feeling slightly tubby. It's mainly a confidence boosting thing, if I'm smaller, I feel more confident and ready to take on the world. As a performing artist, in the art of drag, I need to stay slender and trim.

    I can read thanks. This does not answer WHY one would choose to be unhealthy, nor why one, YOU would be promoting it.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    polenate wrote: »
    My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.

    Help.

    Your friends are right.

    As someone who had disordered eating in her young teens, i know all too well that mentality when i see it. You think losing weight will fix it? I gaurantee it will not. You will lose weight, and STILL hate the way you look. You will never be good enough. You will continue on a downward spiral that can lead to SERIOUS health problems and even DEATH.


    FACT: Anorexia Nervosa has the highest rate of death out of ANY MENTAL ILLNESS. Between 5-20% of people diagnosed with Anorexia will die from it.

    Luckily you are still within a SOMEWHAT acceptable BMI, but your goal weight is not. You are starting down a dangerous path and you should see someone to help you ASAP. Get serious about the problem. If we see it, if your friends and loved ones see it, but you CANNOT see it. You may need help admitting where you are and with body dysmorphia.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    mwebster11 wrote: »
    yes, fat makes you fat.

    Not only is this false, but promoting the demonization of a macronutrient in a thread where the OP is clearly struggling with an active ED is really unkind.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    senecarr wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    hunnnybee wrote: »
    I am proof that it is not calories. I am almost alawys under my calorie count and not losing weight. I find that I can eat high fat and lose weight as long as I do not eat carbs for it to switch to burning instead. If I eat high fat and high carb I get extra tubby fast; so n BLT's :-(
    It is calories. Start a thread and you'll receive help.


    OP, no, the fat content does not make you fat. Under eating, will however make you sick. You're a male, why are you doing this? The minimum you should be consuming is 1500 calories.

    From the OP's profile:

    Why I want to get in shape
    Although my friends always tell me that I don't need to lose weight, and that I'm slim enough already (At the moment I'm 9st 13lbs and 5'11 with a BMI of 19.3) I just can't shake the feeling of feeling slightly tubby. It's mainly a confidence boosting thing, if I'm smaller, I feel more confident and ready to take on the world. As a performing artist, in the art of drag, I need to stay slender and trim.
    Well, looking at that, losing 13 lb like the goal meter says will put him at a BMI of 17.6, which is underweight. That's not good.

    Not good?

    That is actually in the medical class of "anorexic".
    Well under 17.5 would be. Though mental condition is the important component for the diganosing the psychological condition. I'd say it sounds like OP could definitely use speaking to someone about having possible body dysmorphia or anorexic thoughts.
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    mwebster11 wrote: »
    yes, fat makes you fat.

    Seriously??? This boy is under eating. Take your FALSE information elsewhere!
  • ohmscheeks
    ohmscheeks Posts: 840 Member
    Omg, ok, I am calling it... T-R-O-L-L
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    polenate wrote: »
    My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.

    You are saying you are not happy with how you look. Have you discussed your feelings with a psychologist? Have you discussed your weight loss goals with a physician?

    If not, then you need to start with your healthcare team, not MFP.
  • mwebster11 wrote: »
    yes, fat makes you fat.

    Not only is this false, but promoting the demonization of a macronutrient in a thread where the OP is clearly struggling with an active ED is really unkind.

    ^^^^+1
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    THIS:
    polenate wrote: »
    My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.

    AND THIS:
    polenate wrote: »
    The 1072 calories includes the 2 packets of crisps, by the way.

    Clearly show you need to speak with a professional.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    edited September 2015
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    hunnnybee wrote: »
    I am proof that it is not calories. I am almost alawys under my calorie count and not losing weight. I find that I can eat high fat and lose weight as long as I do not eat carbs for it to switch to burning instead. If I eat high fat and high carb I get extra tubby fast; so n BLT's :-(
    It is calories. Start a thread and you'll receive help.


    OP, no, the fat content does not make you fat. Under eating, will however make you sick. You're a male, why are you doing this? The minimum you should be consuming is 1500 calories.

    From the OP's profile:

    Why I want to get in shape
    Although my friends always tell me that I don't need to lose weight, and that I'm slim enough already (At the moment I'm 9st 13lbs and 5'11 with a BMI of 19.3) I just can't shake the feeling of feeling slightly tubby. It's mainly a confidence boosting thing, if I'm smaller, I feel more confident and ready to take on the world. As a performing artist, in the art of drag, I need to stay slender and trim.

    I can read thanks. This does not answer WHY one would choose to be unhealthy, nor why one, YOU would be promoting it.

    Don't get snarky when i was trying to be helpful. "I can read thanks". Really?
    You're a male, why are you doing this?

    I dont know, maybe because he is trying to have a feminine physique because he performs in drag. I was pointing this out from his profile as a potential reason why he might think it's okay to get this dangerously thin by training to attain an unreasonable physique for a 5'11 male. Seriously? Can i not point this out when your question seems to ignore this?
    This does not answer WHY one would choose to be unhealthy

    MKAY. Maybe because he has an eating disorder?
    nor why one, YOU would be promoting it.

    Where did i promote an eating disorder? I don't see where i ever said "YEAH, GO YOU, EAT YOURSELF INTO STARVATION!".


    ....can you read?
  • polenate
    polenate Posts: 19 Member
    polenate wrote: »
    My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.

    You are saying you are not happy with how you look. Have you discussed your feelings with a psychologist? Have you discussed your weight loss goals with a physician?

    If not, then you need to start with your healthcare team, not MFP.

    I haven't discussed it with anyone in a professional position other than a personal trainer at the gym who told me "Seriously, don't lose any weight.", I seem to ignore it when people tell me that. I'm beginning to think maybe I should make an appointment with my doctor though. :-/
  • CasperNaegle
    CasperNaegle Posts: 936 Member
    So yes it is all in the calories and not what you eat, however what you can make you healthy or not. Protein, Carbs, and fat make up the nutrients that are calories. A calorie deficit is what makes you lose weight and vice versa to gain. You should not worry strictly about your BMI or your weight. Those are only data points in the total of your health. Your body fat, muscle content are huge. You should focus on adding muscle to your frame and not really worry so much about dropping pounds from the sound of it.
  • polenate
    polenate Posts: 19 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    hunnnybee wrote: »
    I am proof that it is not calories. I am almost alawys under my calorie count and not losing weight. I find that I can eat high fat and lose weight as long as I do not eat carbs for it to switch to burning instead. If I eat high fat and high carb I get extra tubby fast; so n BLT's :-(
    It is calories. Start a thread and you'll receive help.


    OP, no, the fat content does not make you fat. Under eating, will however make you sick. You're a male, why are you doing this? The minimum you should be consuming is 1500 calories.

    From the OP's profile:

    Why I want to get in shape
    Although my friends always tell me that I don't need to lose weight, and that I'm slim enough already (At the moment I'm 9st 13lbs and 5'11 with a BMI of 19.3) I just can't shake the feeling of feeling slightly tubby. It's mainly a confidence boosting thing, if I'm smaller, I feel more confident and ready to take on the world. As a performing artist, in the art of drag, I need to stay slender and trim.

    I can read thanks. This does not answer WHY one would choose to be unhealthy, nor why one, YOU would be promoting it.

    Don't get snarky when i was trying to be helpful. "I can read thanks". Really?
    You're a male, why are you doing this?

    I dont know, maybe because he is trying to have a feminine physique because he performs in drag. Seriously?
    This does not answer WHY one would choose to be unhealthy

    MKAY. Maybe because he has an eating disorder?
    nor why one, YOU would be promoting it.

    Where did i promote an eating disorder? I don't see where i ever said "YEAH, GO YOU, EAT YOURSELF INTO STARVATION!".


    ....can you read?

    Exactly. You've pretty much hit the nail on the head.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    polenate wrote: »
    polenate wrote: »
    My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.

    You are saying you are not happy with how you look. Have you discussed your feelings with a psychologist? Have you discussed your weight loss goals with a physician?

    If not, then you need to start with your healthcare team, not MFP.

    I haven't discussed it with anyone in a professional position other than a personal trainer at the gym who told me "Seriously, don't lose any weight.", I seem to ignore it when people tell me that. I'm beginning to think maybe I should make an appointment with my doctor though. :-/

    Good idea OP. Do it as quickly as possible, you'll be glad you did.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    mwebster11 wrote: »
    yes, fat makes you fat.

    Nope. This is not true.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    mwebster11 wrote: »
    yes, fat makes you fat.
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  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Don't get snarky when i was trying to be helpful. "I can read thanks". Really?
    You're a male, why are you doing this?

    I dont know, maybe because he is trying to have a feminine physique because he performs in drag. I was pointing this out from his profile as a potential reason why he might think it's okay to get this dangerously thin by training to attain an unreasonable physique for a 5'11 male. Seriously? Can i not point this out when your question seems to ignore this?
    This does not answer WHY one would choose to be unhealthy

    MKAY. Maybe because he has an eating disorder?
    nor why one, YOU would be promoting it.

    Where did i promote an eating disorder? I don't see where i ever said "YEAH, GO YOU, EAT YOURSELF INTO STARVATION!".


    ....can you read?

    Defending his reasoning sounds as if you're justifying his position to me.
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