I am quitting using supplements
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Maybe I was unconsciously hoping for a heart attack.
Please get help as soon as possible. This isn't healthy.
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WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »Still struggling with the concept that OP doesn't think they need to take ACTUAL PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION for an ACTUAL SERIOUS MEDICAL ISSUE but will happily waste hundreds of dollars and take potentially dangerous gimmicky diet pills, fat burners and "antioxidant" pills based on the "but TOXINZ!" baloney.
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It's because I thought they would help me lose weight, and I am obsessed with my weight. Other pills, prescription pills made me put on 30 kg in one year and destroyed my body, now I am full of stretch marks and lost my bf because of being fat. So I don't trust prescription pills and I hate them. About antioxidants, I only exchanged a bottle, if it is useless, I won't use it. But I read reviews about people being so happy with their skin by the help of antioxidants.
If you are "obsessed" with your weight then you need therapy. The pills did NOT make you put on 30kg in one year, you put on 30kg in one year because you ate too much. The pills did NOT "destroy your body" and they did NOT give you stretch marks. Your boyfriend left because he is an abusive as$hole, not because you were fat, and you're better off without him.
And again, you don't trust PRESCRIPTION pills, which are heavily regulated and have to conform to standards and go through rigorous testing before being put on the market, but you'll happily take all kinds of scam gimmick pills that have NO REGULATION AT ALL and can potentially kill you. Yeah, that makes TOTAL sense. WTF?!?!?!?!?
I take weekly therapy already.0 -
WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »Still struggling with the concept that OP doesn't think they need to take ACTUAL PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION for an ACTUAL SERIOUS MEDICAL ISSUE but will happily waste hundreds of dollars and take potentially dangerous gimmicky diet pills, fat burners and "antioxidant" pills based on the "but TOXINZ!" baloney.
!?!?!!?!?!?!
It's because I thought they would help me lose weight, and I am obsessed with my weight. Other pills, prescription pills made me put on 30 kg in one year and destroyed my body, now I am full of stretch marks and lost my bf because of being fat. So I don't trust prescription pills and I hate them. About antioxidants, I only exchanged a bottle, if it is useless, I won't use it. But I read reviews about people being so happy with their skin by the help of antioxidants.
If you are "obsessed" with your weight then you need therapy. The pills did NOT make you put on 30kg in one year, you put on 30kg in one year because you ate too much. The pills did NOT "destroy your body" and they did NOT give you stretch marks. Your boyfriend left because he is an abusive as$hole, not because you were fat, and you're better off without him.
And again, you don't trust PRESCRIPTION pills, which are heavily regulated and have to conform to standards and go through rigorous testing before being put on the market, but you'll happily take all kinds of scam gimmick pills that have NO REGULATION AT ALL and can potentially kill you. Yeah, that makes TOTAL sense. WTF?!?!?!?!?
This. Sounds harsh, but I think you should see a therapist if you aren't already. You mentioned you are "obsessed" with your weight and you also are apparently scared of foods like peanut butter because of the "toxins." That's not a healthy mindset.
I hope you find help and feel better soon!
The doctor thinks I have so many unhealthy schemas and loops of behavior0 -
WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »ariana_eatsandlifts wrote: »So you stopped taking your synthroid... when a known side effect of hypothyroidism is weight gain... and instead decided to buy "supplements" to aid your weight loss?
I am not very informed about thyroid.
Sorry your doctor did not adequately educate you about your medical condition, but that does not mean it is advisable to stop medications cold turkey. Yes, antipsychotics can cause increased hunger, but at the end of the day, you put on weight because you were eating too many calories. It sounds like you have a lot going on in your life, I think you should find someone to talk to other than just your primary care physician. He may have some counseling services he can refer you to.0 -
ariana_eatsandlifts wrote: »WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »ariana_eatsandlifts wrote: »So you stopped taking your synthroid... when a known side effect of hypothyroidism is weight gain... and instead decided to buy "supplements" to aid your weight loss?
I am not very informed about thyroid.
Sorry your doctor did not adequately educate you about your medical condition, but that does not mean it is advisable to stop medications cold turkey. Yes, antipsychotics can cause increased hunger, but at the end of the day, you put on weight because you were eating too many calories. It sounds like you have a lot going on in your life, I think you should find someone to talk to other than just your primary care physician. He may have some counseling services he can refer you to.
He didn't want me to stop the meds. He said 'by doing this you are accepting to be hospitalized' for a month I cried, vomitted, shaked, didn't sleep for days, didn't leave my room while quitting the meds. It was a torture. But I managed it.
I see a psychiatrist every two weeks and a psyhologist every week.0 -
WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »ariana_eatsandlifts wrote: »WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »Your kidneys and liver keep your system clean.
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/food-matters/antioxidant-supplements-too-much-of-a-kinda-good-thing/
I think I toxicate myself a lot by binge eating quite often lately...
Binge eating isn't going to cause you to build up toxins. If that was the case you would be in the hospital hooked up to machines. As a prior binge eater I should have died many times over if binge eating caused toxin build up.
But what about unhealthy stuff? Chips and peanut butter and all? They have so many harmful ingredients
What ingredients are you referring to? If these foods were harmful... I would've been dead a long time ago.
They have so many additives to make them şast a long time. Even ants don't eat chips
...What? No. Not true.
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So... A lot of discussion has been on taking your prescribed medication, stop taking over the counter "gimmick" drugs, seek more medical advice about your medical conditions but I have not see if you exercise any. Yes, breathing and meditation is a good way to help center and focus one's self but exercise is great both mentally and physically.
I wish you the best on your journey.0 -
Please remember when responding that the OP has a mental health disorder and talking down to her is not going to help in anyway in fact possibly do harm. As for you poster I would speak to your doctor about trying other medication for your bipolar disorder if the ones you were using were not effective.
Obsessive thinking (such as your weight) are still symptoms of BP and while I applaud you at taking the steps to find other methods that help you it would be best to utilize those with your medication (possibly lower dose if your methods are helping as well). However, that would be best monitored by a doctor. As for your thyroid you need to let your doctor know about any and all symptoms. It could be possible your dosage is off but only a doctor can determine that. Please forget all the other "supplements" unless your doctor agrees. It all comes back to speaking with a medical professional and not a forum such as this as we can't give you the help you need in regards to your mental/physical disorders. Good luck and I wish you the best!0 -
WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »HippySkoppy wrote: »WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »Good. NOW GET BACK ON YOUR THYROID MEDS.
You don't need the "antioxidant pills" either. Your system will stay clean all by itself.
I just cannot fathom that you refuse to take your thyroid meds because you don't believe in them but you'll happily buy all these stupid, potentially dangerous, gimmicky supplements.
I believe that I needed thyroid meds because of side affect of another pills that I am taking for my bipolar mood disorder. But I stopped taking them also and found other ways to exist. So now I think I am fine without them. But I might see the doctor this week to make sure and get a blood test done.
I am going to chime in with a +100000 for making sure you take the medication prescribed for you in regards to your Thyroid.
Also please, please don't stop taking your Bipolar medication either .....I don't know what you mean by you "found other ways to exist" but the consequences of ceasing the med. for such a serious condition could be life threatening.
I'm glad you have stopped the useless supplements but try to have some faith in Doctors they do know what they are talking about much more than lay people.....if you don't like your current Doctor or have lost faith in them then change Doctors, find someone you can work well with as the conditions you have require you to be compliant and on board to manage your health in the best manner possible.
I wish you all the best. I really hope you stay safe and well.
Thanks. The bipolar pills never worked on me, I would take very heavy medication, but still have attacks, cut my hands with broken glass, cey and scream and try to kill myself. Those were very difficult days. Then I learned breathing techniques and meditation, and I am trying to apply acceptance and awareness to my life. As you notice I still make bad decisions (giving all my money to garbage pills) and I make mistakes, but I am learning to control my thoughts. It is a process, and I am so much in a better place that I don't care about small things like wasting money, soon I will be able to control that aspect of my illness too...
There are alternative medications for bipolar. If one isn't working, try something else. Meditation and breathing can help, but they won't necessarily carry you through those times when you stop taking care of yourself. I don't know how to ask this without sounding blunt, but are you certain the BF left you over the weight and not because of your described behaviors here? Add in being off your medications, I can't imagine that it was easy for him. I'm not trying to make excuses for him (truthfully, we know very little of this situation), just trying to help you see another possible side to this. Regardless of his reason, you need to take better care of yourself, including taking the medications which can improve your quality of life. When you find balance in your own life, it is easier to bring someone else into it and have that be a supportive and helpful relationship, rather than one that adds to your distress.
The worst case I have seen with hypothyroid, was a man who stopped taking his meds for 6 months, he experienced myxedema coma as a result. This is an extreme example and happens rarely, but it can happen.
My suggestions: Go back to your doctor for the thyroid checks, and have a specialist in mental health work with you on your bipolar (getting the meds right, and adding in the alternative therapies, which you have been experimenting with).
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While it's never a bad idea to learn about your disease, you really don't have to learn anything to take care of yourself properly. All you have to do is swallow the pill every morning, preferably at 6 a.m., but certainly as close to 6 a.m. as you can get.WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »ariana_eatsandlifts wrote: »So you stopped taking your synthroid... when a known side effect of hypothyroidism is weight gain... and instead decided to buy "supplements" to aid your weight loss?
I am not very informed about thyroid.
Take pill with a glass of water
No food, one hour
No other pills, four hours
Keep your follow-up appointments.
That's it! That's all you need to do!
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This thread reminds me of this.
WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »The bipolar pills never worked on me, I would take very heavy medication, but still have attacks, cut my hands with broken glass, cey and scream and try to kill myself. Those were very difficult days. Then I learned breathing techniques and meditation, and I am trying to apply acceptance and awareness to my life. As you notice I still make bad decisions (giving all my money to garbage pills) and I make mistakes, but I am learning to control my thoughts. It is a process, and I am so much in a better place that I don't care about small things like wasting money, soon I will be able to control that aspect of my illness too...
It's very good to hear you've quit the supplements.
Also, I commend you on your continuing therapy.
The most important part is what I've bolded.
My favourite saying is, "Don't believe everything you think".
Learning to challenge my thoughts has helped me more than anything in my life. It's helped with psychological problems, and with learning about science and the vast world of knowledge.
The bipolar meds will not fix everything instantly. But they are very, very helpful in making it easier to challenge your scary, harmful thoughts.
A combination of therapy, meds, challenging your thoughts, and support from family and friends will all get you out of this mess you're in.
You're on the path, and I wish you the best for continuing it.0 -
Bi-polar will make you want to stop your medicine for it. It's a huge problem that way
Certainly it may take a lot of trial and error to find the most effective med for it (I had to with unipolar, myself), but please remember that wanting to not take medicine is very much tied to the bi-polar itself, usually. Good luck! 0 -
WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »
Interesting, I thought I should be taking them with food I thought that applied to all pills
No one I know with Hypothyroidism takes them with food. The medication itself actually functions better and absorbs better on an empty stomach. Check your prescription bottle for REAL instructions, or call the pharmacy where you got it or your doctor, it only takes a second to do that and then you won't have to wonder anymore.0 -
Why are you taking anything?0
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Synthroid is an extremely commonly prescribed drug. If you back out pain meds, it may be in the top ten.clgaram720 wrote: »WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »
Interesting, I thought I should be taking them with food I thought that applied to all pills
No one I know with Hypothyroidism takes them with food. The medication itself actually functions better and absorbs better on an empty stomach. Check your prescription bottle for REAL instructions, or call the pharmacy where you got it or your doctor, it only takes a second to do that and then you won't have to wonder anymore.
It has it's own website. Info on how to take it can be found there if someone types "Synthroid" into the google.
I think your idea for calling the doctor or pharmacy is a great one! Just adding on to it.
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My brother is on Thorazine, for which weight gain is listed as a common side effect. He did in fact gain weight when he was in a hospital setting and eating hospital food. However, he lost it and has maintained a healthy weight for over a year now that he is at Mom's, walking most days, doing lots of yard work, and making better food choices.WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »WingardiumLeviosa91 wrote: »Still struggling with the concept that OP doesn't think they need to take ACTUAL PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION for an ACTUAL SERIOUS MEDICAL ISSUE but will happily waste hundreds of dollars and take potentially dangerous gimmicky diet pills, fat burners and "antioxidant" pills based on the "but TOXINZ!" baloney.
!?!?!!?!?!?!
It's because I thought they would help me lose weight, and I am obsessed with my weight. Other pills, prescription pills made me put on 30 kg in one year and destroyed my body, now I am full of stretch marks and lost my bf because of being fat. So I don't trust prescription pills and I hate them. About antioxidants, I only exchanged a bottle, if it is useless, I won't use it. But I read reviews about people being so happy with their skin by the help of antioxidants.
If you are "obsessed" with your weight then you need therapy. The pills did NOT make you put on 30kg in one year, you put on 30kg in one year because you ate too much. The pills did NOT "destroy your body" and they did NOT give you stretch marks. Your boyfriend left because he is an abusive as$hole, not because you were fat, and you're better off without him.
And again, you don't trust PRESCRIPTION pills, which are heavily regulated and have to conform to standards and go through rigorous testing before being put on the market, but you'll happily take all kinds of scam gimmick pills that have NO REGULATION AT ALL and can potentially kill you. Yeah, that makes TOTAL sense. WTF?!?!?!?!?
The side affect of psychiatry pills is weight gain because they gave you an uncontrollable hungar. Before using them I was 46-50 kg. Then I started ordering pizza at 2am in the morning.
They are on the market because gains overdo sidd affects. Doesn't mean side affects don't exist if there is moderation.
I'm sorry to hear this and hope you discuss this with your therapist.I already admitted weight loss pills was a bad idea. It is my way of self destruction. Maybe I was unconsciously hoping for a heart attack.0 -
It took me several months of trial and error to get on the right medication for my anxiety. One would work well for a couple of weeks until my body was fully loaded, then bad side effects would hit. We would switch to another and I would have to wait several weeks for the other to leave my system before I knew what the new one was really like. Work with your doctor to find an appropriate medication AND dosage.
Also, please take time to learn about hypothyroidism: https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000353.htm0 -
So... A lot of discussion has been on taking your prescribed medication, stop taking over the counter "gimmick" drugs, seek more medical advice about your medical conditions but I have not see if you exercise any. Yes, breathing and meditation is a good way to help center and focus one's self but exercise is great both mentally and physically.
I wish you the best on your journey.
I am just not exercising for 9-10 days because of ToM and illness, before that I was exercising regularly for few weeks.0 -
blkandwhite77 wrote: »Please remember when responding that the OP has a mental health disorder and talking down to her is not going to help in anyway in fact possibly do harm. As for you poster I would speak to your doctor about trying other medication for your bipolar disorder if the ones you were using were not effective.
Obsessive thinking (such as your weight) are still symptoms of BP and while I applaud you at taking the steps to find other methods that help you it would be best to utilize those with your medication (possibly lower dose if your methods are helping as well). However, that would be best monitored by a doctor. As for your thyroid you need to let your doctor know about any and all symptoms. It could be possible your dosage is off but only a doctor can determine that. Please forget all the other "supplements" unless your doctor agrees. It all comes back to speaking with a medical professional and not a forum such as this as we can't give you the help you need in regards to your mental/physical disorders. Good luck and I wish you the best!
Thanks the doctor makes me use abilify 15 mg, but before that I was using 1500 mg of Depakin, 150 mg Efexor, Rexapin, xanax and pillls I don't even remember anymore... See it turns out I can survive without them, I just need to be aware of my emotions and learn to let go... I am studying psychology and right now I am taking a class on third wave psychotherapy techniques which are based on awareness, really helpful to me. 0 -
It took me several months of trial and error to get on the right medication for my anxiety. One would work well for a couple of weeks until my body was fully loaded, then bad side effects would hit. We would switch to another and I would have to wait several weeks for the other to leave my system before I knew what the new one was really like. Work with your doctor to find an appropriate medication AND dosage.
Also, please take time to learn about hypothyroidism: https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000353.htm
I am sick since I am 15... Believe me, I think I used every pill on the planet on variety of combinations with other pills. I have seen multiple doctors, stayed in hospitals, and even got Electroshock therapy while being hospitalised. It was the worse. 0
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