Wheat Belly?

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  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    I'm being sent to a dietician just waiting on appointment to come through , it's on the mean time I'll look on that site for info thank you

    celiac.com forums are are really helpful too.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    Unless you actually have Celiac's disease, or have been diagnosed as gluten intolerant (which is a minute percentage of the population), there is no reason to cut gluten out of the diet. Most people who think they are having a problem with gluten, in fact, have been found to not have any problems with it, and actually are having issues with other things - and do feel better when following a FODMAP diet.
  • Queenmunchy
    Queenmunchy Posts: 3,380 Member
    I eat a lot of vegetables as bases for things - including spiralized vegetables and vegetable "rices."
    It may help you, but this is the best recipe blog for that kind of eating http://inspiralized.com/
  • Pinnacle_IAO
    Pinnacle_IAO Posts: 608 Member
    Hey there everyone!! My husband and I are starting the wheat belly diet and I wanted to see if there was anyone else out there doing it?! So far we've been doing it for about a month and my husband (who is diabetic) has noticed great drop in blood sugar and weigh loss as well! It seems like it's really the way to go! We aren't doing the Total Health, just the Wheat Belly for now! Anyone with me?!
    No, and I read that book, and Davis made some good points about how we've ruined our collective health with grain products.
    I replaced processed flour products with 100% whole grain alternatives, but I did not go "gluten free". .
    It made a huge difference.

    Good luck to you!
  • hazeleyez26
    hazeleyez26 Posts: 71 Member
    I'm wondering how your wheat belly diet is going? :) I read the book recently and my husband and I have decided we are going to do it... Just not sure when yet. It's very exciting! Though I know it will be hard since I love everything wheat..
  • N200lz
    N200lz Posts: 134 Member
    edited November 2015
    As part of another plan that I follow, I was instructed to eliminate all wheat based products until I approached my goal weight. The re-entry phase had you add one food group item at a time so that you could assess the impact it was having on your overall health.

    I was totally surprised that when I eliminated wheat, some of the tendonitis type pain that I have had in my elbows went away. I had attributed it to the weight training I have been doing for years and figured I had to live with it but it totally went away. That plus the fact that it converts to sugar so quickly led to it being stricken from my diet completely. Many will say "I could never give up my bread" or toast, English muffin, etc. which goes back to the manufacturer mantra "Bet you can't eat just one."

    As has been stated previously, the wheat product that is produced today is far different from what was available in the mid-1900s.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    N200lz wrote: »
    As part of another plan that I follow, I was instructed to eliminate all wheat based products until I approached my goal weight. The re-entry phase had you add one food group item at a time so that you could assess the impact it was having on your overall health.

    I was totally surprised that when I eliminated wheat, some of the tendonitis type pain that I have had in my elbows went away. I had attributed it to the weight training I have been doing for years and figured I had to live with it but it totally went away. That plus the fact that it converts to sugar so quickly led to it being stricken from my diet completely. Many will say "I could never give up my bread" or toast, English muffin, etc. which goes back to the manufacturer mantra "Bet you can't eat just one."

    As has been stated previously, the wheat product that is produced today is far different from what was available in the mid-1900s.

    People have been eating bread for thousands and thousands of years, way before we had food manufacturers. That slogan is referring to potato chips. I'm not going to deny that bread can be a food that some people struggle with, but there are many, many, many people who can and do eat just one English muffin or piece of bread.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    N200lz wrote: »
    As part of another plan that I follow, I was instructed to eliminate all wheat based products until I approached my goal weight. The re-entry phase had you add one food group item at a time so that you could assess the impact it was having on your overall health.

    I was totally surprised that when I eliminated wheat, some of the tendonitis type pain that I have had in my elbows went away. I had attributed it to the weight training I have been doing for years and figured I had to live with it but it totally went away. That plus the fact that it converts to sugar so quickly led to it being stricken from my diet completely. Many will say "I could never give up my bread" or toast, English muffin, etc. which goes back to the manufacturer mantra "Bet you can't eat just one."

    As has been stated previously, the wheat product that is produced today is far different from what was available in the mid-1900s.

    People have been eating bread for thousands and thousands of years, way before we had food manufacturers. That slogan is referring to potato chips. I'm not going to deny that bread can be a food that some people struggle with, but there are many, many, many people who can and do eat just one English muffin or piece of bread.

    exactly this. As I said before, unless you have Celiac disease, it is highly unlikely that you have any issue with gluten. Making other adjustments in your diet (research the FODMAP diet) is likely to achieve the results most people are looking for if they have the symptoms listed in books like Wheat Belly.
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    edited November 2015
    N200lz wrote: »
    As part of another plan that I follow, I was instructed to eliminate all wheat based products until I approached my goal weight. The re-entry phase had you add one food group item at a time so that you could assess the impact it was having on your overall health.

    I was totally surprised that when I eliminated wheat, some of the tendonitis type pain that I have had in my elbows went away. I had attributed it to the weight training I have been doing for years and figured I had to live with it but it totally went away. That plus the fact that it converts to sugar so quickly led to it being stricken from my diet completely. Many will say "I could never give up my bread" or toast, English muffin, etc. which goes back to the manufacturer mantra "Bet you can't eat just one."

    As has been stated previously, the wheat product that is produced today is far different from what was available in the mid-1900s.

    http://www.foodandnutrition.org/Stone-Soup/July-2015/Wheat-Has-Not-Changed/
    Unless someone has a wheat allergy, celiac disease or gluten intolerance (which, combined, is less than 10 percent of the population), there seems to be no scientific reason to avoid wheat, which has not significantly changed since your great grandparents ate it.
  • N200lz
    N200lz Posts: 134 Member
    Really? Have you even seen a seed-head recently?
    More seeds per head which equates to more yield per acre ......... but it hasn't changed, right?
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    N200lz wrote: »
    Really? Have you even seen a seed-head recently?
    More seeds per head which equates to more yield per acre ......... but it hasn't changed, right?

    Do you eat corn? Are you aware that corn didn't even exist before it was genetically modified to be an edible plant? And that was pre-European invasion on the American continent.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    N200lz wrote: »
    Really? Have you even seen a seed-head recently?
    More seeds per head which equates to more yield per acre ......... but it hasn't changed, right?

    How does having more seeds per head impact how our body processes it?
  • tammibarbagallo
    tammibarbagallo Posts: 11 Member
    edited November 2015
    I have been looking around the message boards for the first time today and I was amazed at how nice everyone is, until....lol! But as the saying goes, "never talk about politics, religion and...um...bread". I stumbled on the book Wheat Belly during my weight loss journey after doing a search for something like "why does eating bread make me so hungry?" While I try to always remain open minded and objective (as we ALL should) I am more convinced than ever that the wheat of today in the US and some other countries is NOT healthy and definitely not helpful for most people's weight loss. There is a lot of prevailing research that says the same. I do believe, however, that some people can tolerate it better than others. A trainer commented a few months ago that a type II diabetic doesn't have to watch carb intake. I cringed when I read this!! It's this type of cavalier advice giving in the personal training world that gives PTs a bad name. And ACE certified too?! Tsk tsk! You should know better. ACE absolutely forbids such advice. I don't agree with the food pyramid so I don't recommend it to clients. I encourage them, instead, to educate themselves about their own bodies. As soon as you are convinced you know everything, that's when you are truly a fool. We all have MUCH growing to do and science and our bodies are constantly evolving.
  • N200lz
    N200lz Posts: 134 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Do you eat corn? Are you aware that corn didn't even exist before it was genetically modified to be an edible plant? And that was pre-European invasion on the American continent.
    Is that directed at me? If it is then no, I do not eat corn.
    How does having more seeds per head impact how our body processes it?
    Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were saying it hasn't changed.
    If you search long enough you can even find articles on the internet that support smoking.

    Sorry, but a research document produced by the wheat council in Canada doesn't sway me much especially when I consider my own experience related to wheat.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    I have been looking around the message boards for the first time today and I was amazed at how nice everyone is, until....lol! But as the saying goes, "never talk about politics, religion and...um...bread". I stumbled on the book Wheat Belly during my weight loss journey after doing a search for something like "why does eating bread make me so hungry?" I am absolutely convinced that the wheat of today in the US and some other countries is NOT healthy. There is a lot of prevailing research that says the same. I do believe, however, that some people can tolerate it better than others. A trainer commented a few months ago that a type II diabetic doesn't have to watch carb intake. I cringed when I read this!! It's this type of cavalier advice giving in the personal training world that gives PTs a bad name. And ACE certified too?! Tsk tsk! You should know better. ACE absolutely forbids such advice. I don't agree with the food pyramid so I don't recommend it to clients. I encourage them, instead, to educate themselves about their own bodies. As soon as you are convinced you know everything, that's when you are truly a fool. We all have MUCH growing to do and science and our bodies are constantly evolving.

    What research are you referring to?
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    edited November 2015
    N200lz wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Do you eat corn? Are you aware that corn didn't even exist before it was genetically modified to be an edible plant? And that was pre-European invasion on the American continent.
    Is that directed at me? If it is then no, I do not eat corn.
    How does having more seeds per head impact how our body processes it?
    Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were saying it hasn't changed.
    If you search long enough you can even find articles on the internet that support smoking.

    Sorry, but a research document produced by the wheat council in Canada doesn't sway me much especially when I consider my own experience related to wheat.

    I never claimed that wheat hadn't changed. Multiple people are involved in this conversation. How does the number of seeds per head, the change you're citing, impact how our body processes it? That's my question. I have no idea what that has to do with smoking. You're the one claiming wheat, a food eaten by humans for thousands and thousands of years, is harmful. I'm asking what evidence you have in support of that claim. If you are claiming that wheat was okay in the past and is only now harmful, I'm asking what evidence you have in support of that claim.

    I didn't post anything from the Canadian Wheat Council. You may want to review the conversation to see which people made which comments.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    I would like to read this research that says wheat is significantly different in any way from a century ago

    Also the clinical trials dealing with wheat and health issues in those who are not celiac or gluten intolerant would be interesting

    Thank you
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    edited November 2015
    The comments are directed at me, even though I was not quoted. The article was about a study done by independent sources, not by the Canadian Wheat council.
    The research, which was funded by independent (non-industry) sources including the University of Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan Ministry of Agriculture and Food, and the Canada Research Chairs Program, will hopefully help consumers overcome their fear of bread and pasta.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Azexas wrote: »
    The comments are directed at me, even though I was not quoted. The article was about a study done by independent sources, not by the Canadian Wheat council.
    The research, which was funded by independent (non-industry) sources including the University of Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan Ministry of Agriculture and Food, and the Canada Research Chairs Program, will hopefully help consumers overcome their fear of bread and pasta.

    Wow, talk about your wild pretexts for dismissing valid information . . .
  • N200lz
    N200lz Posts: 134 Member
    I don't agree with the food pyramid so I don't recommend it to clients.
    What???? You don't agree on diet recommendation as they were presented by then Senator McGovern from the great wheat producing state of South Dakota?????
  • tammibarbagallo
    tammibarbagallo Posts: 11 Member
    I have been looking around the message boards for the first time today and I was amazed at how nice everyone is, until....lol! But as the saying goes, "never talk about politics, religion and...um...bread". I stumbled on the book Wheat Belly during my weight loss journey after doing a search for something like "why does eating bread make me so hungry?" I am absolutely convinced that the wheat of today in the US and some other countries is NOT healthy. There is a lot of prevailing research that says the same. I do believe, however, that some people can tolerate it better than others. A trainer commented a few months ago that a type II diabetic doesn't have to watch carb intake. I cringed when I read this!! It's this type of cavalier advice giving in the personal training world that gives PTs a bad name. And ACE certified too?! Tsk tsk! You should know better. ACE absolutely forbids such advice. I don't agree with the food pyramid so I don't recommend it to clients. I encourage them, instead, to educate themselves about their own bodies. As soon as you are convinced you know everything, that's when you are truly a fool. We all have MUCH growing to do and science and our bodies are constantly evolving.

    What research are you referring to?

    I'm guessing you're not truly interested in actual studies because I've been down this road enough to know how people are about this subject. However, IF you truly are interested, why don't you start with Dr Mercola? He is a true doctor and references actual scientific studies in his reports.
  • tammibarbagallo
    tammibarbagallo Posts: 11 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I would like to read this research that says wheat is significantly different in any way from a century ago

    Also the clinical trials dealing with wheat and health issues in those who are not celiac or gluten intolerant would be interesting

    Thank you

    Check out Dr. Mercola. He's always a great place to start. :)
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    N200lz wrote: »
    I don't agree with the food pyramid so I don't recommend it to clients.
    What???? You don't agree on diet recommendation as they were presented by then Senator McGovern from the great wheat producing state of South Dakota?????

    You realize the food pyramid has been updated since then, right?
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    I have been looking around the message boards for the first time today and I was amazed at how nice everyone is, until....lol! But as the saying goes, "never talk about politics, religion and...um...bread". I stumbled on the book Wheat Belly during my weight loss journey after doing a search for something like "why does eating bread make me so hungry?" I am absolutely convinced that the wheat of today in the US and some other countries is NOT healthy. There is a lot of prevailing research that says the same. I do believe, however, that some people can tolerate it better than others. A trainer commented a few months ago that a type II diabetic doesn't have to watch carb intake. I cringed when I read this!! It's this type of cavalier advice giving in the personal training world that gives PTs a bad name. And ACE certified too?! Tsk tsk! You should know better. ACE absolutely forbids such advice. I don't agree with the food pyramid so I don't recommend it to clients. I encourage them, instead, to educate themselves about their own bodies. As soon as you are convinced you know everything, that's when you are truly a fool. We all have MUCH growing to do and science and our bodies are constantly evolving.

    What research are you referring to?

    I'm guessing you're not truly interested in actual studies because I've been down this road enough to know how people are about this subject. However, IF you truly are interested, why don't you start with Dr Mercola? He is a true doctor and references actual scientific studies in his reports.

    Mercola, who thinks sunscreen causes cancer and that HIV is unrelated to AIDS? Mercola, frequently featured on Quackwatch.com? Mercola, who opposes immunization?

    I am interested in actual studies. If you have studies cited by Mercola that you would like to reference, please feel free to share them. I would love to see them. But I'm not about to wade into the cesspool of his website again. I have no time for HIV denialists and anti-vaxxers.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I would like to read this research that says wheat is significantly different in any way from a century ago

    Also the clinical trials dealing with wheat and health issues in those who are not celiac or gluten intolerant would be interesting

    Thank you

    Check out Dr. Mercola. He's always a great place to start. :)

    Are you also into homeopathy?
  • tammibarbagallo
    tammibarbagallo Posts: 11 Member
    edited November 2015
    I have been looking around the message boards for the first time today and I was amazed at how nice everyone is, until....lol! But as the saying goes, "never talk about politics, religion and...um...bread". I stumbled on the book Wheat Belly during my weight loss journey after doing a search for something like "why does eating bread make me so hungry?" I am absolutely convinced that the wheat of today in the US and some other countries is NOT healthy. There is a lot of prevailing research that says the same. I do believe, however, that some people can tolerate it better than others. A trainer commented a few months ago that a type II diabetic doesn't have to watch carb intake. I cringed when I read this!! It's this type of cavalier advice giving in the personal training world that gives PTs a bad name. And ACE certified too?! Tsk tsk! You should know better. ACE absolutely forbids such advice. I don't agree with the food pyramid so I don't recommend it to clients. I encourage them, instead, to educate themselves about their own bodies. As soon as you are convinced you know everything, that's when you are truly a fool. We all have MUCH growing to do and science and our bodies are constantly evolving.

    What research are you referring to?

    I'm guessing you're not truly interested in actual studies because I've been down this road enough to know how people are about this subject. However, IF you truly are interested, why don't you start with Dr Mercola? He is a true doctor and references actual scientific studies in his reports.

    Mercola, who thinks sunscreen causes cancer and that HIV is unrelated to AIDS? Mercola, frequently featured on Quackwatch.com? Mercola, who opposes immunization?

    I am interested in actual studies. If you have studies cited by Mercola that you would like to reference, please feel free to share them. I would love to see them. But I'm not about to wade into the cesspool of his website again. I have no time for HIV denialists and anti-vaxxers.

    Like I said, why don't you check out the actual studies he references instead of cherry picking what conforms to your preset opinion on the subject. I'm not about to waste my time finding studies for you to shoot down. And I actually believe sunscreen is horrible! However, I know your kind. You have plenty of other people on here to argue with. I'm not big on message boards and this is why. I'm hopping off of here to go enjoy my life. Not a fan of bickering but enjoy!!
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I would like to read this research that says wheat is significantly different in any way from a century ago

    Also the clinical trials dealing with wheat and health issues in those who are not celiac or gluten intolerant would be interesting

    Thank you

    Check out Dr. Mercola. He's always a great place to start. :)

    Link the studies please

    It's your contention, your burden of proof
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    I have been looking around the message boards for the first time today and I was amazed at how nice everyone is, until....lol! But as the saying goes, "never talk about politics, religion and...um...bread". I stumbled on the book Wheat Belly during my weight loss journey after doing a search for something like "why does eating bread make me so hungry?" I am absolutely convinced that the wheat of today in the US and some other countries is NOT healthy. There is a lot of prevailing research that says the same. I do believe, however, that some people can tolerate it better than others. A trainer commented a few months ago that a type II diabetic doesn't have to watch carb intake. I cringed when I read this!! It's this type of cavalier advice giving in the personal training world that gives PTs a bad name. And ACE certified too?! Tsk tsk! You should know better. ACE absolutely forbids such advice. I don't agree with the food pyramid so I don't recommend it to clients. I encourage them, instead, to educate themselves about their own bodies. As soon as you are convinced you know everything, that's when you are truly a fool. We all have MUCH growing to do and science and our bodies are constantly evolving.

    What research are you referring to?

    I'm guessing you're not truly interested in actual studies because I've been down this road enough to know how people are about this subject. However, IF you truly are interested, why don't you start with Dr Mercola? He is a true doctor and references actual scientific studies in his reports.

    Mercola, who thinks sunscreen causes cancer and that HIV is unrelated to AIDS? Mercola, frequently featured on Quackwatch.com? Mercola, who opposes immunization?

    I am interested in actual studies. If you have studies cited by Mercola that you would like to reference, please feel free to share them. I would love to see them. But I'm not about to wade into the cesspool of his website again. I have no time for HIV denialists and anti-vaxxers.

    Like I said, why don't you check out the actual studies he references instead of cherry picking what conforms to your preset opinion on the subject. And I actually believe sunscreen is horrible! However, I know your kind. You have plenty of other people on here to argue with. I'm not big on message boards and this is why. I'm hopping off of here to go enjoy my life. Not a fan of bickering but enjoy!!

    Which studies are you referring to? I'm sorry it's frustrating to you when people challenge your view, but Mercola is a major peddler of pseudoscience. It would be reckless to accept his claims at face value without digging into the studies that he cites. In the past he has made claims that are not backed by the studies he references, as well as made claims that aren't backed by ANY type of science (HIV is unrelated to AIDS, homeopathy works, etc).
  • tammibarbagallo
    tammibarbagallo Posts: 11 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I would like to read this research that says wheat is significantly different in any way from a century ago

    Also the clinical trials dealing with wheat and health issues in those who are not celiac or gluten intolerant would be interesting

    Thank you

    Check out Dr. Mercola. He's always a great place to start. :)

    Link the studies please

    It's your contention, your burden of proof

    lol, my burden of proof? I did not realize this was a court case. I think you guys take message boards waaaay too seriously. Thank you for reminding me of my life behind a computer screen before I got off my rear and into shape.
  • N200lz
    N200lz Posts: 134 Member
    Azexas wrote: »
    The comments are directed at me, even though I was not quoted. The article was about a study done by independent sources, not by the Canadian Wheat council.
    ..... on Canadian Western Red Spring Wheat.
    http://cerealchemistry.aaccnet.org/doi/abs/10.1094/CCHEM-02-15-0029-R
    Most of the grain that you consume is not from this variety.
    Example: Most pasta products are produced from Durham Wheat.
    A totally different species which goes back to "all wheat is not created equal."