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ServeJesus2008
ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
I started bulking 2-3 weeks ago been doing protein shakes eating more protein. Have a good friend who is kind of personal training me to bulk up. He gave me deadlifts, squats, and overhead press to start out and increase weights by 10 every new week. He told me
It a 12 week program im doing. So far i started at 164 am up too 166. Is there anything im missing or any changes need to be done becaus i do see results just want to know of there anything else??
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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    it's very and trial and error but the feed back is the truth. Honestly if you're eating in s small surplus and lifting and you're seeing gain then you're on the right path.

    it's a difficult process b/c it takes so much time- that's really the hardest process- patience.
  • richln
    richln Posts: 809 Member
    You are lifting weights and getting larger, so far so good, but what are you asking about in particular? Add some bench press in there for a better balanced program. Would probably be better to get on a popular, proven program if you are not sure about your friend's program. Gain about 1/2 to 1 pound per week to minimize fat gain during your bulk. Hit a minimum 0.6 g/lb protein, 0.35 g/lb fat, and eat a good variety of nutrient-dense food to get your micros.
    Read this entire article; it is great:
    http://strengthunbound.com/bulking-complete-guide-for-beginners/
    Come back with any specific questions/concerns you may have.
  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    I do bench press also i see gains im trying to get to 170-175lbs and cool i been gaining 0.5-1lbs a week which is awesome. Im working on trying to get to 200g of protein daily. Not easy task and i been remembering to breath in and out during work out big problem before i was not breathing right. Any more tips i need to know
  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    I just hope im doing things right
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Are actually following a program or just doing those lifts? Following a program will result in better gains than a few selected exercises. The progression of 5x5 programs and hypertrophy programs are built in a very specific way for maximal results.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    I do bench press also i see gains im trying to get to 170-175lbs and cool i been gaining 0.5-1lbs a week which is awesome. Im working on trying to get to 200g of protein daily. Not easy task and i been remembering to breath in and out during work out big problem before i was not breathing right. Any more tips i need to know

    200 grams is a bit of overkill. You'll probably do just fine on 150 grams. It would give you more carbs for fuel and more fats for hormonal recovery.
  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    I been doing protein wise between 100-175g and result are showing the program im doing is from good friend who personal trainer and he plans to give me more workouts soon to add to three to four im at. But im seeing gains like literally happy
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Okay, what else are you wanting from the community at this point? We could offer suggestions on lifting programs, but you are following the advice of your friend. We could offer nutrition advice, but your weight increase seems good for now. I think my only question for you is what is your height, weight and approximate body fat? Bulking isn't the right approach for most people and a new lifter will make gains while cutting.
  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    Im 6'2 weigh 166 body fat along time ago was 17% id say now possible 19-20%
  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    I been lifting for 5 years got toned had trainer there give me program did it till friend gave me new one but with old one i was increasing for Last 4-5 months
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Your body fat is high and your weight is low for your height. This indicates very low lean body mass. You can stand to put on weight, but you should try to keep your weight gain very low due to the higher body fat.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    usmcmp wrote: »
    Your body fat is high and your weight is low for your height. This indicates very low lean body mass. You can stand to put on weight, but you should try to keep your weight gain very low due to the higher body fat.

    this
  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    I do keep my body weight gain low it not much when i do gain and i do go to gym 2-3 times a week my friend just told me to do more proteins in diet less carbs amd fats
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    I do keep my body weight gain low it not much when i do gain and i do go to gym 2-3 times a week my friend just told me to do more proteins in diet less carbs amd fats

    Honestly, I think you need a program written by a professional that has you lifting more like 3-5 days per week. For having been lifting 5 years you should weigh more or have lower body fat. I know your friend is trying to help you, but what they currently have you doing is not the most effective use of your time and the progression is not efficient.
  • JustMissTracy
    JustMissTracy Posts: 6,338 Member
    usmcmp wrote: »
    I do keep my body weight gain low it not much when i do gain and i do go to gym 2-3 times a week my friend just told me to do more proteins in diet less carbs amd fats

    Honestly, I think you need a program written by a professional that has you lifting more like 3-5 days per week. For having been lifting 5 years you should weigh more or have lower body fat. I know your friend is trying to help you, but what they currently have you doing is not the most effective use of your time and the progression is not efficient.

    This. She's right..
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    For reference: I'm a female that is 5'9" and my lean body mass is 153 pounds. I started lifting fall of 2012, so only 3 years now.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,046 Member
    You want to put on mass, you HAVE to train that way. High volume (16 sets per body part minimum) reps between 6-12 and using as much weight as you can possible with a spot on the last rep.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    Been doing more sets repshigher weights forst yesr of working out i was doing it all wrong thek was on amd off for 2-3 years only the last year i really started gettingg committed to it and i have high metabalism with adhd
  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    And this year i started breathing right ive always had low body fat im up to 4-5 sets so far im not trying to do body building just bulking to get arms abs chest legs bigger just not bodybuilding
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    And this year i started breathing right ive always had low body fat im up to 4-5 sets so far im not trying to do body building just bulking to get arms abs chest legs bigger just not bodybuilding

    If you're lifting to get bigger you're bodybuilding. It's okay that you don't want to compete, but at this point you should consider working towards training like a bodybuilder. It takes many years to even get close to being a competitive bodybuilder. Their programs are effective, which is why we are suggesting following a program and not what your friend is saying.
  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    Well my friend is a body builder just never competed he just been doing this 18 years amd well im still new to this but i will look at other programs too
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    What is your friends program? Can you break it out?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    usmcmp wrote: »
    I do keep my body weight gain low it not much when i do gain and i do go to gym 2-3 times a week my friend just told me to do more proteins in diet less carbs amd fats

    Honestly, I think you need a program written by a professional that has you lifting more like 3-5 days per week. For having been lifting 5 years you should weigh more or have lower body fat. I know your friend is trying to help you, but what they currently have you doing is not the most effective use of your time and the progression is not efficient.

    cosign …

    i would suggest strong lifts or all pro beginner routine ….
  • bryanacuna
    bryanacuna Posts: 24 Member
    I agree with what most people are saying. Although protein isn't the most important thing in a bulk. You shouldn't be trying to hit 200g of protein if you don't weigh 200lbs. Aim for 1g of protein per pound of body weight. Therefore, 166 is enough. Since that's what you weigh. Get plenty of carbs and keep your fats at a healthy level. Your macros should be something like 50% carbs, 25% fats, and 25% protein. That would be optimal for what you're trying to accomplish. When you go to the gym focus on compound movements. Such as bench, deadlift & squat(If you're able to), military press, and Rows. I would say start at comfortable weights and increase major movements by 5 pounds(not 10Ibs) every single time you do a movement. For example, one day you bench 130 so the next time you bench you would add 5 pounds, so on and so forth. Since you have a higher body fat go for a lean bulk. Only add 200 calories a day and aim to gain .5 pounds a week. Yes it will take longer, but it will be worth it when you decide to cut. By doing this you won't add much fat. After a while you'll hit a plateau so you'll have to reset your macros and add more calories. If you're interested I'll be glad to help. Just let me know. Stay motivated brother. Much love.
  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    Yep my friends program is 12 weeks then after that we move to more harder things andnwork outs. My carbs 45% fat 30% protein 30% right now your telling me and i beem gaining .5 -1 a week amd i increase weights or can by 5 a week he has me doing deadlifts squats benchnpress overheadnpress to get full body work out and it working i add abs chest and calves too.
  • I wouldn't expect "huge gains" in just 12 weeks, at three months your body is just beginning to make physiological changes. You need to think long term, more like 3 - 5 years building naturally.
  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    Well i been at this for 5 did it wrong first year second to fourth on and off fifth i been really at it but yes i do agree in long term
  • bryanacuna
    bryanacuna Posts: 24 Member
    Yep my friends program is 12 weeks then after that we move to more harder things andnwork outs. My carbs 45% fat 30% protein 30% right now your telling me and i beem gaining .5 -1 a week amd i increase weights or can by 5 a week he has me doing deadlifts squats benchnpress overheadnpress to get full body work out and it working i add abs chest and calves too.

    Sounds like you're on the right track. What are the current weights for your major lifts? How many days are you going to the gym? Don't kill yourself trying to get 200g of protein. It's not necessary. Remember, it's not all about gaining the weight. You need to put forth effort in the gym to grow some muscle under it. You're doing the correct movements What are your reps and sets for each excersice?
  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    I go to gym 2-3 days a week overhead press 80lbs benching 105-115 squats 65lbs deadlifts 50lbs
  • ServeJesus2008
    ServeJesus2008 Posts: 223 Member
    I do about 10-15 reps per exercise sets between 3-4 though trainer has me at 1-2 but i do more
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