Weight loss faster without workout :/
Jayz395
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Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
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The same thing was happening to me. The only logical explaination I could come up with is my muscles really retain water after heavy workouts. I never researched it much beyond that since my size was going down.0
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How long did you eat 1600 while working out and without working out? Muscles retaining water after working out may well be a factor. Did you eat back your exercise calories when you were working out?0
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Yep - loosing muscle....0
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water weight dropping from no longer required for muscle repair from exercise
calories dropping from no increased appetite to fuel body to run
it's temporary probably0 -
Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
I'm the exact opposite. I was at a 2 month stall and started running on the treadmill again, and it's started falling off (4lbs this week, time to readjust).0 -
My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
Simple. Cut off one of your legs. :-)
It has oft been said on MFP message boards and numerous articles, blogs, magazines and what not that "weight is lost in the kitchen, not in the gym" or some such variant of that statement. And that statement is said for good reasons.
This article by Dr. Yoni Freedhoff states:
We need to unhitch exercise from our weight-management wagons. Breaking it down, figure that your diet is responsible for 80 percent of your weight and fitness – unless you're incredibly active, just 20 percent. If weight's your concern you're much more likely to lose it in your kitchen than you are in your gym. But don't forget, if it's health you're after, you need to do both.
So your question of "how can I lose weight faster without working out?" would be to run a larger deficit in the CICO equation. You can use food (calories) on the CI part of the equation, exercise on the CO part of the equation, or a combination of both depending on your goals. But to do it without exercising leaves you with only the kitchen option which simply means you have to eat less calories. And that's fine and dandy.
It raises all kind of questions surrounding your use of the word "faster". You don't want to reduce calories too much - like going beyond a 20% reduction from your maintenance level. With the deficit, your body will consume water, glycogen stores, fat and muscle to fuel itself. If you reduce your calories too much (beyond the 20% below maintenance levels) in an effort to cut weight faster, your muscles will be fed on by the body to fuel itself. So I would take care not to go too fast and to counteract the muscle loss.
Many exercise and eat in specific ways using an effort to help maintain the muscle they have while losing weight. Read this to start down the path of maintaining muscle while losing weight.
Faster is not always better. Initial losses of water, glycogen not withstanding that you have seen thus far since you stopped the running - your deficit or "losing it in the kitchen" will be your ticket to your goals. Hopefully without losing too much muscle and finding some other forms of exercise for health benefits that doesn't hurt your ankle (cycling, weight lifting, walking in good supportive shoes, etc...).0 -
He didn't really mean "how can I" so much as "why did I."
He's not looking for a process going forward, but an explanation of what happened.0 -
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
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How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
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The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
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The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
I always found the more I ate, the more I lost also! I never had great results from the MFP's standard caloric goal for many women of 1200 cals a day.0 -
And how was that?
The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
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That's only a "standard" when relatively small women try to lose at a very high rate.FitGirl0123 wrote: »
The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
I always found the more I ate, the more I lost also! I never had great results from the MFP's standard caloric goal for many women of 1200 cals a day.
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I'm not really sure what you don't understand about my last statement. Eating more = weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
And how was that?
The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
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I'm not really sure what you don't understand about my last statement. Eating more = weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
And how was that?
The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
ways eating more = greater weight loss
1) when you are logging more accurately and removing inconsistencies
2) when you're increasing your TDEE because you're fueling better
3) diet break replenishing Leptin levels can help you lose more when returning to calorie defecit
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Except that's impossible, given accurate measurements of "more" and "loss" if other factors are held constant.
I'm not really sure what you don't understand about my last statement. Eating more = weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
And how was that?
The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
So, what I don't understand, is how the physics of that would work or where the extra calories went.
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
That's only a "standard" when relatively small women try to lose at a very high rate.FitGirl0123 wrote: »
The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
I always found the more I ate, the more I lost also! I never had great results from the MFP's standard caloric goal for many women of 1200 cals a day.
LOL I wasn't trying to lose at a "high rate" but MFP still suggested 1200. It's a moot point now because I'm all about the gains and enjoy watching the scale go up now. But, when no other factor was changed, other than going from eating 1200 calories, to eating 1500 calories, the number on the scale started moving down. So you can chalk that up to whatever you want, but it's a fact.0 -
Well, #1 is feasible, but that's why I mention "accurate measurements." #2 I think is pretty much covered in "other factors held constant" as long as you're talking about more fuel leading to more activity, and that also ties back in to #1. I'm not sure how TDEE would meaningfully be affected, otherwise. #3 is also feasible, but that -- and reduced stress, cortisol, etc. -- are relatively short term effects.
I'm not really sure what you don't understand about my last statement. Eating more = weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
And how was that?
The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
ways eating more = greater weight loss
1) when you are logging more accurately and removing inconsistencies
2) when you're increasing your TDEE because you're fueling better
3) diet break replenishing Leptin levels can help you lose more when returning to calorie defecit
perhaps?
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DeguelloTex wrote: »He didn't really mean "how can I" so much as "why did I."
He's not looking for a process going forward, but an explanation of what happened.
Yes that's right, I ran each day for about 3 weeks eating 1600 weight didn't really alter. Since I've stopped I lost about 3-4 pound every week been about 5 weeks now
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Three weeks isn't very long, especially with the running, which can cause water retention that would mask any loss. Three or four pounds a week is pretty substantial. Mostly likely a decent chunk of that is water, but if that continues you might want to look at eating more so that you're not at a larger deficit than your body can cover from fat stores.DeguelloTex wrote: »He didn't really mean "how can I" so much as "why did I."
He's not looking for a process going forward, but an explanation of what happened.
Yes that's right, I ran each day for about 3 weeks eating 1600 weight didn't really alter. Since I've stopped I lost about 3-4 pound every week been about 5 weeks now
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
That's only a "standard" when relatively small women try to lose at a very high rate.FitGirl0123 wrote: »
The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
I always found the more I ate, the more I lost also! I never had great results from the MFP's standard caloric goal for many women of 1200 cals a day.
I was 180lbs or more and 5'7" when I started MFP and 1200 was the cal intake assigned to me. So, not a small female Thankfully, reading in the forums more recently has taught me to eat more. That I was barely fuelling my body on that and no wonder I kept failing. OP, I am a 150lb, 35yo woman, I am losing on 16-1800 cal per day. Eat to fuel your body! You will stick with it longer, feel better, and if the weight comes off slower that is not a big deal right? Your current loss is probably glycogen and water because your muscles don't need the repair anymore. Had you continued running, this would have balanced itself out and you would have seen similar losses. If you want to exercise, do! Your body will thank you for it!
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What rate of loss did you choose?youngmomtaz wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
That's only a "standard" when relatively small women try to lose at a very high rate.FitGirl0123 wrote: »
The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
I always found the more I ate, the more I lost also! I never had great results from the MFP's standard caloric goal for many women of 1200 cals a day.
I was 180lbs or more and 5'7" when I started MFP and 1200 was the cal intake assigned to me. So, not a small female Thankfully, reading in the forums more recently has taught me to eat more. That I was barely fuelling my body on that and no wonder I kept failing. OP, I am a 150lb, 35yo woman, I am losing on 16-1800 cal per day. Eat to fuel your body! You will stick with it longer, feel better, and if the weight comes off slower that is not a big deal right? Your current loss is probably glycogen and water because your muscles don't need the repair anymore. Had you continued running, this would have balanced itself out and you would have seen similar losses. If you want to exercise, do! Your body will thank you for it!
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DeguelloTex wrote: »He didn't really mean "how can I" so much as "why did I."
He's not looking for a process going forward, but an explanation of what happened.
Yes that's right, I ran each day for about 3 weeks eating 1600 weight didn't really alter. Since I've stopped I lost about 3-4 pound every week been about 5 weeks now
That's cool. Then we move on to the answer of "lose it in the kitchen effect" taking place. Water, glycogen stores, fat & muscle all combined is accounting for your 3-4 pounds per week loss.
Was your counting as accurate for the three weeks you were running as it has been the past 5 weeks?0 -
I'm a jogger and tend to see the scale move down the morning after I have a day off exercise. I don't necessary jog to drop weight, I do it because I enjoy it and it's my "me" time to think and clear my head. If you solely want to lose weight, then stick to the calorie goal MFP gave you and I think some of the why has already been mentioned above so I won't reiterate. Congrats on the weight loss!0
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
Except that's impossible, given accurate measurements of "more" and "loss" if other factors are held constant.
I'm not really sure what you don't understand about my last statement. Eating more = weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
And how was that?
The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
So, what I don't understand, is how the physics of that would work or where the extra calories went.
Except that it happened, so it's not impossible & I'm not going to continue to argue it.0 -
No, it didn't, any more than I flew to the store just because I claim it and am not going to continue to argue it.0
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
What rate of loss did you choose?youngmomtaz wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
That's only a "standard" when relatively small women try to lose at a very high rate.FitGirl0123 wrote: »
The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
I always found the more I ate, the more I lost also! I never had great results from the MFP's standard caloric goal for many women of 1200 cals a day.
I was 180lbs or more and 5'7" when I started MFP and 1200 was the cal intake assigned to me. So, not a small female Thankfully, reading in the forums more recently has taught me to eat more. That I was barely fuelling my body on that and no wonder I kept failing. OP, I am a 150lb, 35yo woman, I am losing on 16-1800 cal per day. Eat to fuel your body! You will stick with it longer, feel better, and if the weight comes off slower that is not a big deal right? Your current loss is probably glycogen and water because your muscles don't need the repair anymore. Had you continued running, this would have balanced itself out and you would have seen similar losses. If you want to exercise, do! Your body will thank you for it!
2lbs a week of course. I really wish it was not even an option on here. I feel like for women above 5'5" 1200 is far too low and should not even be shown as an option. Or the app should give further explanation, or links to the relevant forum discussions about it. More informed choices would be made.
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I'm not really sure what you don't understand about my last statement. Eating more = weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
And how was that?
The same way me eating more helped my weight loss.DeguelloTex wrote: »
How would burning fewer calories help his weight loss if nothing else had changed?
Your a 30 something male only eating 1600 cals and running. That's not very much. Sometimes there's a sweet spot deficit where weight loss happens best. Dropping your running found that. When I started many many years ago, the combination of running and eating too little did not work for me. I started eating a bit more and never looked back.Hi all, I'm eating 1600 calories a day and was running a couple mile a day on the treadmill as well but my weight wasn't really moving. My ankle started hurting so stopping running and since then my weight is dropping really fast, how can I lose weight faster without working out?
It's almost certainly water weight or eating enough less to offset the missing exercise. It's almost certainly not some sweet spot in which calories in and calories out cease to be the determinant.
ways eating more = greater weight loss
1) when you are logging more accurately and removing inconsistencies
2) when you're increasing your TDEE because you're fueling better
3) diet break replenishing Leptin levels can help you lose more when returning to calorie defecit
perhaps?
I'm curious about this.
I did a google search, and the first few results started off by saying something like "calories in / calories out doesn't work because . . . starvation mode." Are you saying there's actually something to this?0 -
That's what I thought it was maybe my deficit once I worked out was too high,0
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My best guess is you had already lost the weight but since you were running your body was hanging on to extra water weight in an effort to repair your muscles. Once you stopped running it didn't have to hang on to that water anymore.
The more likely explanation is that you were eating more than 1600 calories when you were running and didn't realize it (running causing increase of appetite). Stopped running, appetite decreased, you were more accurate in your logging because you didn't need to fudge for the extra this and that. 1600 is pretty low for a male that is running.0
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