I've been at it for 1.5 months and I've only lost 3 lbs

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

I was plateau-ing as well until I went on the paleo diet. After that, the weight just kept dropping off.

Since she is losing, she hasn't plateaued. All diets depend upon caloric deficit for loss ... paleo, keto, vegan, atkins, twinkie, etc.

If you call that losing... that could be water weight fluctuations. I go up & down by a few pounds every day, but I still call it maintaining when my overall average stays within 2 lbs. of my starting weight. I drink a ton of water, so that's the ONLY reason I'm bringing up the water thing. It's obviously not the same for everyone.

And you don't have to cut calories if you cut out carbs entirely (which is hard).. I'm not super active by any means, and I've lost almost 60lbs eating the same amount of calories, but removing carbs and replacing them with lean meat & veggies. I do occasionally eat fruit, but in limited quantities.

To lose fat, you do need to cut calories. Claiming that what she sees might be water weight fluctuations then saying one doesn't need to cut calories if they cut carbs, which results in a water weight loss tied to the loss of stored glycogen is irony at its best. Thank you for the Sunday morning laugh.

No need to be rude.

Not saying for her it's water weight, just talking about myself. I personally go up and down each day, but at the end of the week I lose about 4-5lbs, and keep at that pace. The reason cutting carbs works for ME is because I have trouble digesting gluten, grains, sugars (fructose, lactose), and it creates bloating and slows my digestion down to a crawl. Of course I continue losing weight, as anyone would, with more fiber (in veggies) and a healthy digestive system. She made have food sensitivies that need to be dealt with that are causing her to lose so slowly. THAT was all I was getting at. Geez...

And the reason I said paleo, is because it cuts out a lot of the foods that can potentially cause bloating like legumes and gluten. Thus, that's why that diet works for ME. I'm simply suggesting it may work for her too. Also elimination diets can be amazing figuring out sensitivies as well- if that's a problem.

And I don't cut calories, I barely exercise (due to job), but I still lose weight. Maybe it's my metabolism, but as someone who was almost 200lbs and dropped 60 by diet alone... I found what works for ME.

FunkyMonkey80 wrote: »

Thank you all for your feedback! You know what, I just looked over my diary for the past 2 weeks and I`ve actually always been a little bit over (sometimes a lot a bit) and my sugar is always over. I think sugar may be the main culprit. I now feel a little silly for having asked for advice. I think in my head I feel I am being healthier because I`m logging and exercising.. but that`s just not enough. Time to be more hard-assed! haha

Sometimes you need to seek input from others so you can see where the problems are

Going over on your sugar is OK, though that's a topic many may debate. Calories are what matter.

Also, your measuring cups should be for liquids only - they're not good for solids at all.

If you look on the app on your phone, go to More>Nutrition and you can see your calorie intake for the week, as well as how much over/under you are for the week. Might be helpful in this case!

I'm only trying to maintain right now - there's treats galore everywhere, and I love to sample stuff that's only around for the Christmas season. I'll get back in the losing mindset after the new year.

You've got this!

~Lyssa

ninerbuff wrote: »

FunkyMonkey80 wrote: »

35 yr old and 163cm (5'4)

You're in normal for BMI, so you're loss goal should be more like .25 lbs a week.
Try being consistent for a week (don't eat the extra 1000 calories) and see what happens.

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. Agree

First question. How many calories does your body need ???? It tough to determine how much if you don't know where to be or start ?? What macro ratio are u ? Are u eating gluten free ? Or close to it Too much wheat will bloat you including beer and alcohol. To get serious get a body comp test. Determine a base line and start tracking A nutritionist should be able to do this Good luck Btw 2-3 lb per month is 25-35 lbs for the yr Nice and consistent weight lose is the was to go. Good luck

FunkyMonkey80 wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

I was plateau-ing as well until I went on the paleo diet. After that, the weight just kept dropping off.

Since she is losing, she hasn't plateaued. All diets depend upon caloric deficit for loss ... paleo, keto, vegan, atkins, twinkie, etc.

If you call that losing... that could be water weight fluctuations. I go up & down by a few pounds every day, but I still call it maintaining when my overall average stays within 2 lbs. of my starting weight. I drink a ton of water, so that's the ONLY reason I'm bringing up the water thing. It's obviously not the same for everyone.

And you don't have to cut calories if you cut out carbs entirely (which is hard).. I'm not super active by any means, and I've lost almost 60lbs eating the same amount of calories, but removing carbs and replacing them with lean meat & veggies. I do occasionally eat fruit, but in limited quantities.

To lose fat, you do need to cut calories. Claiming that what she sees might be water weight fluctuations then saying one doesn't need to cut calories if they cut carbs, which results in a water weight loss tied to the loss of stored glycogen is irony at its best. Thank you for the Sunday morning laugh.

No need to be rude.

Not saying for her it's water weight, just talking about myself. I personally go up and down each day, but at the end of the week I lose about 4-5lbs, and keep at that pace. The reason cutting carbs works for ME is because I have trouble digesting gluten, grains, sugars (fructose, lactose), and it creates bloating and slows my digestion down to a crawl. Of course I continue losing weight, as anyone would, with more fiber (in veggies) and a healthy digestive system. She made have food sensitivies that need to be dealt with that are causing her to lose so slowly. THAT was all I was getting at. Geez...

And the reason I said paleo, is because it cuts out a lot of the foods that can potentially cause bloating like legumes and gluten. Thus, that's why that diet works for ME. I'm simply suggesting it may work for her too. Also elimination diets can be amazing figuring out sensitivies as well- if that's a problem.

And I don't cut calories, I barely exercise (due to job), but I still lose weight. Maybe it's my metabolism, but as someone who was almost 200lbs and dropped 60 by diet alone... I found what works for ME.

Thank you, Peaceful. I appreciated your reply. Actually, you have addressed a worry I have. Sometimes I get so bloated after I eat that I literally look at least 3 months pregnant. I`ve been told it could be because I eat too fast, but sometimes I wonder if I have food sensitivities. I have actually thought about going Paleo. I have a friend that is on that diet and it has changed his life (physically and mentally).
By the way, way to go on your weight loss!! That is amazing!!

Thank you my dear! You're absolutely beautiful by the way!! And I completely relate to your woes. I was sick for years not even knowing why, and even when I used to exercise more, I could not lose any weight. Years ago, I cut my calories to about 700-800 (with exercise and as a vegetarian) a day for a year, and the only thing I seemed to lose was hair because all that was was a starvation diet. You'll eventually lose weight that way, but that's not very healthy... Gradual weight loss is best, and sometimes all the body really needs is a healthier digestive system to process the good foods it's eating in a more efficient way. Plus, you may end up feeling better too, which was why I stuck with paleo. Plus, I can't take vitamins, so I have to supplement all of what I need through foods alone... so I can't whole heartedly tell you to try vegetarian (which is what made me lose the most weight) because it made me sick. I want you to be happy, healthy, and feeling fantastic... so find what works for you. Every body is different.

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

I was plateau-ing as well until I went on the paleo diet. After that, the weight just kept dropping off.

Since she is losing, she hasn't plateaued. All diets depend upon caloric deficit for loss ... paleo, keto, vegan, atkins, twinkie, etc.

If you call that losing... that could be water weight fluctuations. I go up & down by a few pounds every day, but I still call it maintaining when my overall average stays within 2 lbs. of my starting weight. I drink a ton of water, so that's the ONLY reason I'm bringing up the water thing. It's obviously not the same for everyone.

And you don't have to cut calories if you cut out carbs entirely (which is hard).. I'm not super active by any means, and I've lost almost 60lbs eating the same amount of calories, but removing carbs and replacing them with lean meat & veggies. I do occasionally eat fruit, but in limited quantities.

To lose fat, you do need to cut calories. Claiming that what she sees might be water weight fluctuations then saying one doesn't need to cut calories if they cut carbs, which results in a water weight loss tied to the loss of stored glycogen is irony at its best. Thank you for the Sunday morning laugh.

No need to be rude.

Not saying for her it's water weight, just talking about myself. I personally go up and down each day, but at the end of the week I lose about 4-5lbs, and keep at that pace. The reason cutting carbs works for ME is because I have trouble digesting gluten, grains, sugars (fructose, lactose), and it creates bloating and slows my digestion down to a crawl. Of course I continue losing weight, as anyone would, with more fiber (in veggies) and a healthy digestive system. She made have food sensitivies that need to be dealt with that are causing her to lose so slowly. THAT was all I was getting at. Geez...

And the reason I said paleo, is because it cuts out a lot of the foods that can potentially cause bloating like legumes and gluten. Thus, that's why that diet works for ME. I'm simply suggesting it may work for her too. Also elimination diets can be amazing figuring out sensitivies as well- if that's a problem.

And I don't cut calories, I barely exercise (due to job), but I still lose weight. Maybe it's my metabolism, but as someone who was almost 200lbs and dropped 60 by diet alone... I found what works for ME.

YOU cut calories. It is that simple. Science trumps every time.

I ate 1200 before I went paleo, and I eat 1200 now. There is no difference except what I'm eating. I'm even less active than I was before, not to mention older... but digestive issues can be what's holding someone back from the last few pounds. Ask any dietician or gastroenterologist. I did. That's why I went on different elimination diets to find out what was hurting me. It helped.

SLLRunner wrote: »

FunkyMonkey80 wrote: »

Thank you all for your feedback! You know what, I just looked over my diary for the past 2 weeks and I`ve actually always been a little bit over (sometimes a lot a bit) and my sugar is always over. I think sugar may be the main culprit. I now feel a little silly for having asked for advice. I think in my head I feel I am being healthier because I`m logging and exercising.. but that`s just not enough. Time to be more hard-assed! haha

Wonderful!

However, please keep in mind that sugar is never the culprit to not losing weight, or to weight gain, it's just part of the overall picture. If you want to cut back somewhere and you feel you are eating too many sugar foods to be healthy for you, then cutting back on those makes perfect sense. But, in general, sugary foods are just part of the overall picture.

ETA: I looked at your diary. I suggest really tightening that up by not using generic entries (cups, spoons, slices, small/medium/large) and find those entries that use weight. Choose the grams option, too, and do extra research to ensure you are choosing correct entries.

Also, those calorie burns- do you get them from a heart rate monitor or do you use an online calculator or numbers off gym machines?

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

FunkyMonkey80 wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

I was plateau-ing as well until I went on the paleo diet. After that, the weight just kept dropping off.

Since she is losing, she hasn't plateaued. All diets depend upon caloric deficit for loss ... paleo, keto, vegan, atkins, twinkie, etc.

If you call that losing... that could be water weight fluctuations. I go up & down by a few pounds every day, but I still call it maintaining when my overall average stays within 2 lbs. of my starting weight. I drink a ton of water, so that's the ONLY reason I'm bringing up the water thing. It's obviously not the same for everyone.

And you don't have to cut calories if you cut out carbs entirely (which is hard).. I'm not super active by any means, and I've lost almost 60lbs eating the same amount of calories, but removing carbs and replacing them with lean meat & veggies. I do occasionally eat fruit, but in limited quantities.

To lose fat, you do need to cut calories. Claiming that what she sees might be water weight fluctuations then saying one doesn't need to cut calories if they cut carbs, which results in a water weight loss tied to the loss of stored glycogen is irony at its best. Thank you for the Sunday morning laugh.

No need to be rude.

Not saying for her it's water weight, just talking about myself. I personally go up and down each day, but at the end of the week I lose about 4-5lbs, and keep at that pace. The reason cutting carbs works for ME is because I have trouble digesting gluten, grains, sugars (fructose, lactose), and it creates bloating and slows my digestion down to a crawl. Of course I continue losing weight, as anyone would, with more fiber (in veggies) and a healthy digestive system. She made have food sensitivies that need to be dealt with that are causing her to lose so slowly. THAT was all I was getting at. Geez...

And the reason I said paleo, is because it cuts out a lot of the foods that can potentially cause bloating like legumes and gluten. Thus, that's why that diet works for ME. I'm simply suggesting it may work for her too. Also elimination diets can be amazing figuring out sensitivies as well- if that's a problem.

And I don't cut calories, I barely exercise (due to job), but I still lose weight. Maybe it's my metabolism, but as someone who was almost 200lbs and dropped 60 by diet alone... I found what works for ME.

Thank you, Peaceful. I appreciated your reply. Actually, you have addressed a worry I have. Sometimes I get so bloated after I eat that I literally look at least 3 months pregnant. I`ve been told it could be because I eat too fast, but sometimes I wonder if I have food sensitivities. I have actually thought about going Paleo. I have a friend that is on that diet and it has changed his life (physically and mentally).
By the way, way to go on your weight loss!! That is amazing!!

Thank you my dear! You're absolutely beautiful by the way!! And I completely relate to your woes. I was sick for years not even knowing why, and even when I used to exercise more, I could not lose any weight. I cut my calories to about 700-800 (with exercise and as a vegetarian) a day for a year, and the only thing I seemed to lose was hair because all that was was a starvation diet. You'll eventually lose weight that way, but that's not very healthy... Gradual weight loss is best, and sometimes all the body really needs is a healthier digestive system to process the good foods it's eating in a more efficient way. Plus, you may end up feeling better too, which was why I stuck with paleo. Plus, I can't take vitamins, so I have to supplement all of what I need through foods alone... so I can't whole heartedly tell you to try vegetarian (which is what made me lose the most weight) because it made me sick. I want you to be happy, healthy, and feeling fantastic... so find what works for you. Every body is different.

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

I was plateau-ing as well until I went on the paleo diet. After that, the weight just kept dropping off.

Since she is losing, she hasn't plateaued. All diets depend upon caloric deficit for loss ... paleo, keto, vegan, atkins, twinkie, etc.

If you call that losing... that could be water weight fluctuations. I go up & down by a few pounds every day, but I still call it maintaining when my overall average stays within 2 lbs. of my starting weight. I drink a ton of water, so that's the ONLY reason I'm bringing up the water thing. It's obviously not the same for everyone.

And you don't have to cut calories if you cut out carbs entirely (which is hard).. I'm not super active by any means, and I've lost almost 60lbs eating the same amount of calories, but removing carbs and replacing them with lean meat & veggies. I do occasionally eat fruit, but in limited quantities.

To lose fat, you do need to cut calories. Claiming that what she sees might be water weight fluctuations then saying one doesn't need to cut calories if they cut carbs, which results in a water weight loss tied to the loss of stored glycogen is irony at its best. Thank you for the Sunday morning laugh.

No need to be rude.

Not saying for her it's water weight, just talking about myself. I personally go up and down each day, but at the end of the week I lose about 4-5lbs, and keep at that pace. The reason cutting carbs works for ME is because I have trouble digesting gluten, grains, sugars (fructose, lactose), and it creates bloating and slows my digestion down to a crawl. Of course I continue losing weight, as anyone would, with more fiber (in veggies) and a healthy digestive system. She made have food sensitivies that need to be dealt with that are causing her to lose so slowly. THAT was all I was getting at. Geez...

And the reason I said paleo, is because it cuts out a lot of the foods that can potentially cause bloating like legumes and gluten. Thus, that's why that diet works for ME. I'm simply suggesting it may work for her too. Also elimination diets can be amazing figuring out sensitivies as well- if that's a problem.

And I don't cut calories, I barely exercise (due to job), but I still lose weight. Maybe it's my metabolism, but as someone who was almost 200lbs and dropped 60 by diet alone... I found what works for ME.

YOU cut calories. It is that simple. Science trumps every time.

I ate 1200 before I went paleo, and I eat 1200 now. There is no difference except what I'm eating. I'm even less active than I was before, not to mention older... but digestive issues can be what's holding someone back from the last few pounds. Ask any dietician or gastroenterologist. I did. That's why I went on different elimination diets to find out what was hurting me. It helped.

Science dictates either your activity increased (greater calories out) or your intake decreased (less calories in) ... I'd bet on the latter and inaccurate logging resulting in your flawed perception.

Science is correct. What you personally aren't factoring in is what's happening in the digestive system when you aren't processing food correctly... a rather rudimentary concept as to why one wouldn't lose weight through diet and exercise alone.

Plus, why are you being so condescending and judgemental? You don't see me attacking what works for you personally, and giving you a middle school science lesson in a pretentious attempt to belittle you.

SLLRunner wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

FunkyMonkey80 wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

I was plateau-ing as well until I went on the paleo diet. After that, the weight just kept dropping off.

Since she is losing, she hasn't plateaued. All diets depend upon caloric deficit for loss ... paleo, keto, vegan, atkins, twinkie, etc.

If you call that losing... that could be water weight fluctuations. I go up & down by a few pounds every day, but I still call it maintaining when my overall average stays within 2 lbs. of my starting weight. I drink a ton of water, so that's the ONLY reason I'm bringing up the water thing. It's obviously not the same for everyone.

And you don't have to cut calories if you cut out carbs entirely (which is hard).. I'm not super active by any means, and I've lost almost 60lbs eating the same amount of calories, but removing carbs and replacing them with lean meat & veggies. I do occasionally eat fruit, but in limited quantities.

To lose fat, you do need to cut calories. Claiming that what she sees might be water weight fluctuations then saying one doesn't need to cut calories if they cut carbs, which results in a water weight loss tied to the loss of stored glycogen is irony at its best. Thank you for the Sunday morning laugh.

No need to be rude.

Not saying for her it's water weight, just talking about myself. I personally go up and down each day, but at the end of the week I lose about 4-5lbs, and keep at that pace. The reason cutting carbs works for ME is because I have trouble digesting gluten, grains, sugars (fructose, lactose), and it creates bloating and slows my digestion down to a crawl. Of course I continue losing weight, as anyone would, with more fiber (in veggies) and a healthy digestive system. She made have food sensitivies that need to be dealt with that are causing her to lose so slowly. THAT was all I was getting at. Geez...

And the reason I said paleo, is because it cuts out a lot of the foods that can potentially cause bloating like legumes and gluten. Thus, that's why that diet works for ME. I'm simply suggesting it may work for her too. Also elimination diets can be amazing figuring out sensitivies as well- if that's a problem.

And I don't cut calories, I barely exercise (due to job), but I still lose weight. Maybe it's my metabolism, but as someone who was almost 200lbs and dropped 60 by diet alone... I found what works for ME.

Thank you, Peaceful. I appreciated your reply. Actually, you have addressed a worry I have. Sometimes I get so bloated after I eat that I literally look at least 3 months pregnant. I`ve been told it could be because I eat too fast, but sometimes I wonder if I have food sensitivities. I have actually thought about going Paleo. I have a friend that is on that diet and it has changed his life (physically and mentally).
By the way, way to go on your weight loss!! That is amazing!!

Thank you my dear! You're absolutely beautiful by the way!! And I completely relate to your woes. I was sick for years not even knowing why, and even when I used to exercise more, I could not lose any weight. Years ago, I cut my calories to about 700-800 (with exercise and as a vegetarian) a day for a year, and the only thing I seemed to lose was hair because all that was was a starvation diet. You'll eventually lose weight that way, but that's not very healthy... Gradual weight loss is best, and sometimes all the body really needs is a healthier digestive system to process the good foods it's eating in a more efficient way. Plus, you may end up feeling better too, which was why I stuck with paleo. Plus, I can't take vitamins, so I have to supplement all of what I need through foods alone... so I can't whole heartedly tell you to try vegetarian (which is what made me lose the most weight) because it made me sick. I want you to be happy, healthy, and feeling fantastic... so find what works for you. Every body is different.

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

brianpperkins wrote: »

PeacefulSeraph wrote: »

I was plateau-ing as well until I went on the paleo diet. After that, the weight just kept dropping off.

Since she is losing, she hasn't plateaued. All diets depend upon caloric deficit for loss ... paleo, keto, vegan, atkins, twinkie, etc.

If you call that losing... that could be water weight fluctuations. I go up & down by a few pounds every day, but I still call it maintaining when my overall average stays within 2 lbs. of my starting weight. I drink a ton of water, so that's the ONLY reason I'm bringing up the water thing. It's obviously not the same for everyone.

And you don't have to cut calories if you cut out carbs entirely (which is hard).. I'm not super active by any means, and I've lost almost 60lbs eating the same amount of calories, but removing carbs and replacing them with lean meat & veggies. I do occasionally eat fruit, but in limited quantities.

To lose fat, you do need to cut calories. Claiming that what she sees might be water weight fluctuations then saying one doesn't need to cut calories if they cut carbs, which results in a water weight loss tied to the loss of stored glycogen is irony at its best. Thank you for the Sunday morning laugh.

No need to be rude.

Not saying for her it's water weight, just talking about myself. I personally go up and down each day, but at the end of the week I lose about 4-5lbs, and keep at that pace. The reason cutting carbs works for ME is because I have trouble digesting gluten, grains, sugars (fructose, lactose), and it creates bloating and slows my digestion down to a crawl. Of course I continue losing weight, as anyone would, with more fiber (in veggies) and a healthy digestive system. She made have food sensitivies that need to be dealt with that are causing her to lose so slowly. THAT was all I was getting at. Geez...

And the reason I said paleo, is because it cuts out a lot of the foods that can potentially cause bloating like legumes and gluten. Thus, that's why that diet works for ME. I'm simply suggesting it may work for her too. Also elimination diets can be amazing figuring out sensitivies as well- if that's a problem.

And I don't cut calories, I barely exercise (due to job), but I still lose weight. Maybe it's my metabolism, but as someone who was almost 200lbs and dropped 60 by diet alone... I found what works for ME.

YOU cut calories. It is that simple. Science trumps every time.

I ate 1200 before I went paleo, and I eat 1200 now. There is no difference except what I'm eating. I'm even less active than I was before, not to mention older... but digestive issues can be what's holding someone back from the last few pounds. Ask any dietician or gastroenterologist. I did. That's why I went on different elimination diets to find out what was hurting me. It helped.

Food type does not cause weight gain. Elimination diets are not designed to find out what food is making a person gain weight, but to find out what foods a person is sensitive or allergic to. Weight gain/loss comes down to calories in/calories out no matter what kind of food you eat.

However, I have no doubt that certain foods might trigger hunger in some people, therefore leading to an increase in calories without realizing it.

Please don't make me say why specifically that food types & digestion problems do cause weight in those with food intolerances... it's not due to food cravings, believe me. I'm starting to feel embarrassed just thinking about it, haha