There are 'BAD' foods
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I agree with Matt Fitzgerald: there's no bad food. It's fuel, not poison. Under the right circumstances, a can of Diet Coke and a handful of Oreos could save your life.
Fuel your body. If you want performance, fuel it with high quality stuff. Although I cannot think of any good reason to drink diet soda or eat anything with trans fats, the occasional indulgence - and by occasional, I mean infrequently and not a lot - is not going to a person undue harm.
Eat what you want. I won't pontificate to you about food choices, and I ask that you treat me with the same respect.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
My grandson's orthopedist says that soda is bad for bones.
Bad for bones how?
In what dosage?
My son drinks almost exclusively milk and water. He has a root beer about once a week. Are his bones in danger?
He told my daughter he recommends no soda for children. He actually thinks no one should drink soda ever, but especially not those with growing bones.
Pediatrician used to - actually, plenty still do because doctors don't always bother to keep their education up - believe that coffee was similar. Something in it, possibly the caffeine would leach calcium was the thought. It is absolutely not true, and there has never been shown that there is any trend in difference height or bone density between children given coffee versus ones not.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
My grandson's orthopedist says that soda is bad for bones.
Bad for bones how?
In what dosage?
My son drinks almost exclusively milk and water. He has a root beer about once a week. Are his bones in danger?
He told my daughter he recommends no soda for children. He actually thinks no one should drink soda ever, but especially not those with growing bones.
For what reason?
Um, because it's bad for their bones. I don't think my daughter quizzed him for study links, if that's what you mean.
But again, why? Is it because the assumption is that if they are drinking soda they are not getting enough calcium? Because a kid who drinks soda must be drinking only soda? If that's the case, I would put that not on the soda, but on the parents...
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
My grandson's orthopedist says that soda is bad for bones.
Bad for bones how?
In what dosage?
My son drinks almost exclusively milk and water. He has a root beer about once a week. Are his bones in danger?
He told my daughter he recommends no soda for children. He actually thinks no one should drink soda ever, but especially not those with growing bones.
For what reason?
Um, because it's bad for their bones. I don't think my daughter quizzed him for study links, if that's what you mean.
See, my dentist gave me info about soda and enamel decay. I then asked follow-up questions, so he pointed me to information that helped me understand it. A nurse practitioner told me to stop drinking soda because sugar will "rot your gut." When she was unable to provide specifics, I discounted her advice.0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
My grandson's orthopedist says that soda is bad for bones.
Bad for bones how?
In what dosage?
My son drinks almost exclusively milk and water. He has a root beer about once a week. Are his bones in danger?
He told my daughter he recommends no soda for children. He actually thinks no one should drink soda ever, but especially not those with growing bones.
For what reason?
Um, because it's bad for their bones. I don't think my daughter quizzed him for study links, if that's what you mean.
See, my dentist gave me info about soda and enamel decay. I then asked follow-up questions, so he pointed me to information that helped me understand it. A nurse practitioner told me to stop drinking soda because sugar will "rot your gut." When she was unable to provide specifics, I discounted her advice.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
My grandson's orthopedist says that soda is bad for bones.
Oh that was debunked quite a while back. It was something to do with the carbonation. But yeah, no.
No, it's not the carbonation. Other carbonated drinks are okay. It's the acid, I believe.
Here is what I found at this site...
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-drinks/soft-drinks-and-disease/
Seems to be geared toward children and adolescents.
Soft drinks and bones
Soda may pose a unique challenge to healthy bones.
Soda contains high levels of phosphate.
Consuming more phosphate than calcium can have a deleterious effect on bone health. (54)
Getting enough calcium is extremely important during childhood and adolescence, when bones are being built.
Soft drinks are generally devoid of calcium and other healthful nutrients, yet they are actively marketed to young age groups.
Milk is a good source of calcium and protein, and also provides vitamin D, vitamin B6, vitamin B12, and other micronutrients.
There is an inverse pattern between soft drink consumption and milk consumption – when one goes up, the other goes down.
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WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
My grandson's orthopedist says that soda is bad for bones.
Bad for bones how?
In what dosage?
My son drinks almost exclusively milk and water. He has a root beer about once a week. Are his bones in danger?
He told my daughter he recommends no soda for children. He actually thinks no one should drink soda ever, but especially not those with growing bones.
For what reason?
Um, because it's bad for their bones. I don't think my daughter quizzed him for study links, if that's what you mean.
But again, why? Is it because the assumption is that if they are drinking soda they are not getting enough calcium? Because a kid who drinks soda must be drinking only soda? If that's the case, I would put that not on the soda, but on the parents...
I believe it had to do with the phosphoric acid. Of course, it's the whole Paracelsus law of toxicity: Sola dosis facit venenum, or "The dose makes the poison." Drink liters of pop a day, and guess what? That's gonna be bad for ya!! Crazy, I know!! Whereas the merest snoot of ricin will kill you dead.
But yeah, the only bad food is Hákarl. And probably century eggs.
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There is still substantive discussion occurring. A discussion does not lose its merit by length. Another thread asked why so many people buy into junk science ; impatience with arguments certainly plays into that.
Is important to take a long - term viewpoint when engaging in difficult topics. Opinions and viewpoints are affected slowly over time, exposure and thought. And there is value in publicly engaging those whose viewpoints are immutable, as it exposes to all who view the exchange the strengths and weaknesses of all arguments presented.0 -
Really, phosphates just need to be balanced out with calcium. Kids still need phosphates (how much depends on the age) and a soda only contains like 30mg per serving. Not that much and not that hard to balance out, especially when you consider milk has 200+mg per serving.0
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Really, phosphates just need to be balanced out with calcium. Kids still need phosphates (how much depends on the age) and a soda only contains like 30mg per serving. Not that much and not that hard to balance out, especially when you consider milk has 200+mg per serving.
You and your silly facts.0 -
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tincanonastring wrote: »phyllis731 wrote: »I make it a point to stay away from processed and fast food. If I can't say the ingredients, I assume it's not in my best interest to put it into my body.
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phyllis731 wrote: »I make it a point to stay away from processed and fast food. If I can't say the ingredients, I assume it's not in my best interest to put it into my body.
So when I'm in Thailand I should stick to McDonalds and the restaurants which do Western style food because I don't know how to say Kaeng phanaeng or Pla nueng manao?
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Really, phosphates just need to be balanced out with calcium. Kids still need phosphates (how much depends on the age) and a soda only contains like 30mg per serving. Not that much and not that hard to balance out, especially when you consider milk has 200+mg per serving.
100% true. That said, I don't like giving small children soda because they only drink so much in a day. Actually, I stay away from feeding them non-milk caloric beverages (even limiting juice to twice a day) because I've noticed that if they drink too many of their calories they are far more likely to be impossible about eating meals.0 -
Really, phosphates just need to be balanced out with calcium. Kids still need phosphates (how much depends on the age) and a soda only contains like 30mg per serving. Not that much and not that hard to balance out, especially when you consider milk has 200+mg per serving.
100% true. That said, I don't like giving small children soda because they only drink so much in a day. Actually, I stay away from feeding them non-milk caloric beverages (even limiting juice to twice a day) because I've noticed that if they drink too many of their calories they are far more likely to be impossible about eating meals.
My 7 year old even tends to fill up on milk, he is a scrawny little thing so we don't let him have unlimited milk anymore because he won't eat as many regular foods.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »How do you pronounce quinoa? Sounds like one of those disgusting fake chemical ingredients.
It's pronounced "sád-ness". Which, coincidentally enough, is exactly what it tastes like.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »How do you pronounce quinoa? Sounds like one of those disgusting fake chemical ingredients.
It's pronounced "sád-ness". Which, coincidentally enough, is exactly what it tastes like.
Yeah, most disappointing non-rice ever.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »How do you pronounce quinoa? Sounds like one of those disgusting fake chemical ingredients.
It's pronounced "sád-ness". Which, coincidentally enough, is exactly what it tastes like.
Yeah, most disappointing non-rice ever.
Finally. I thought I was the only person in the world that didn't love the stuff. I prefer cous cous.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »How do you pronounce quinoa? Sounds like one of those disgusting fake chemical ingredients.
It's pronounced "sád-ness". Which, coincidentally enough, is exactly what it tastes like.
Yeah, most disappointing non-rice ever.
Finally. I thought I was the only person in the world that didn't love the stuff. I prefer cous cous.
Never had cous cous.
If presented with the opportunity, I'm not sure I could get past is funny sounding name. Lol0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »How do you pronounce quinoa? Sounds like one of those disgusting fake chemical ingredients.
It's pronounced "sád-ness". Which, coincidentally enough, is exactly what it tastes like.
Yeah, most disappointing non-rice ever.
Finally. I thought I was the only person in the world that didn't love the stuff. I prefer cous cous.
Never had cous cous.
If presented with the opportunity, I'm not sure I could get past is funny sounding name. Lol
It's fantastic. I prefer the pearled variety, but both are pretty stellar.0 -
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Carlos_421 wrote: »
Dawwwww. I have all the feels now.0 -
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You. You just won the whole internet.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »How do you pronounce quinoa? Sounds like one of those disgusting fake chemical ingredients.
It's pronounced "sád-ness". Which, coincidentally enough, is exactly what it tastes like.
Yeah, most disappointing non-rice ever.
Finally. I thought I was the only person in the world that didn't love the stuff. I prefer cous cous.
I think both quinoa and cous cous would be the closest I would come to admitting there is bad food. :sick:0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »How do you pronounce quinoa? Sounds like one of those disgusting fake chemical ingredients.
It's pronounced "sád-ness". Which, coincidentally enough, is exactly what it tastes like.
Yeah, most disappointing non-rice ever.
Finally. I thought I was the only person in the world that didn't love the stuff. I prefer cous cous.
I think both quinoa and cous cous would be the closest I would come to admitting there is bad food. :sick:
@nutmegoreo I knew I liked you a lot.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »How do you pronounce quinoa? Sounds like one of those disgusting fake chemical ingredients.
It's pronounced "sád-ness". Which, coincidentally enough, is exactly what it tastes like.
Yeah, most disappointing non-rice ever.
Finally. I thought I was the only person in the world that didn't love the stuff. I prefer cous cous.
I think both quinoa and cous cous would be the closest I would come to admitting there is bad food. :sick:
@nutmegoreo I knew I liked you a lot.
LOL! I will take that as a compliment. :bigsmile:
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