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What is clean eating?
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DancingDarl wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »There was a Facebook thing going round here with Ash Bines- clean eating plan. Not particularly useful as everyone knows vegetables and fruit legumes nuts are good for you. I honestly think the health and fitness industry enjoys making it confusing and seem more complicated than it actually is.
Balanced eating would be a better slogan or catch phrase. Or even moderated.
Re: the bolded section. I'm guessing you aren't familiar with the Paleo Diet?
Please insert or make a point.
Paleo Diet purports that legumes are unhealthy.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »There was a Facebook thing going round here with Ash Bines- clean eating plan. Not particularly useful as everyone knows vegetables and fruit legumes nuts are good for you. I honestly think the health and fitness industry enjoys making it confusing and seem more complicated than it actually is.
Balanced eating would be a better slogan or catch phrase. Or even moderated.
Re: the bolded section. I'm guessing you aren't familiar with the Paleo Diet?
Please insert or make a point.
Paleo Diet purports that legumes are unhealthy.
Yes, exactly. This is why debating the meaning of clean eating can go on for 26 pages while still going around in circles. Not everyone does "know" that vegetables, fruit, legumes and nuts are good for you. Some believe legumes are, in fact, not good for you (Paleo) - hence the crazy-looking Venn diagram that was created and posted earlier to encompass all the varied definitions of clean eating.
Completely unrelated - I ended up at Panera for lunch today and couldn't help but snicker at all their clean eating signs. Honestly, I feel no more healthy now that they have gone "clean" than I did when I ate there before all this marketing nonsense took over. My bread, soup and salad tasted exactly the same, and I still feel just as sleepy after eating all of it.
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DancingDarl wrote: »That I do not know what Paleo is when I clearly do. Insinuations are not the best points to make.
Starchy vegetables are also not allowed on Paleo.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »There was a Facebook thing going round here with Ash Bines- clean eating plan. Not particularly useful as everyone knows vegetables and fruit legumes nuts are good for you. I honestly think the health and fitness industry enjoys making it confusing and seem more complicated than it actually is.
Balanced eating would be a better slogan or catch phrase. Or even moderated.
Re: the bolded section. I'm guessing you aren't familiar with the Paleo Diet?
Please insert or make a point.
Paleo Diet purports that legumes are unhealthy.
And why do I care about Paleo?
Let me make it clear..I do not
You said "everyone knows . . . legumes . . . are good for you."
The point of bringing up Paleo is that everyone *doesn't* know that. Some people think they are bad for you.
That you don't care what they think doesn't change the fact that they think it. So it isn't accurate to say everyone knows legumes are good for you.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »There was a Facebook thing going round here with Ash Bines- clean eating plan. Not particularly useful as everyone knows vegetables and fruit legumes nuts are good for you. I honestly think the health and fitness industry enjoys making it confusing and seem more complicated than it actually is.
Balanced eating would be a better slogan or catch phrase. Or even moderated.
Re: the bolded section. I'm guessing you aren't familiar with the Paleo Diet?
Please insert or make a point.
Paleo Diet purports that legumes are unhealthy.
And why do I care about Paleo?
Let me make it clear..I do not
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We've also seen a contingent of people who believe or question whether or not fruit is good for us. "Everyone knows" never seems to work around here. As we figured a few pages back, vegetables (and we might need to specify non-starchy veggies) seems to be the only thing universally agreed to be healthy. And I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there's a WOE out there that disagrees on even that.1
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You said "everyone knows legumes are healthy".DancingDarl wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »There was a Facebook thing going round here with Ash Bines- clean eating plan. Not particularly useful as everyone knows vegetables and fruit legumes nuts are good for you. I honestly think the health and fitness industry enjoys making it confusing and seem more complicated than it actually is.
Balanced eating would be a better slogan or catch phrase. Or even moderated.
Re: the bolded section. I'm guessing you aren't familiar with the Paleo Diet?
Please insert or make a point.
Paleo Diet purports that legumes are unhealthy.
And why do I care about Paleo?
Let me make it clear..I do not
She was pointing out that paleos do not, therefore, not everybody...
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?!!?!?!DancingDarl wrote: »Honestly Clean eating is getting so convoluted why can't people stop breaking into the hype of all these dad diets and realize that it is good if you were going to want to eat like that already. But generally you do not need to conform to rules to lose weight.0 -
diannethegeek wrote: »We've also seen a contingent of people who believe or question whether or not fruit is good for us. "Everyone knows" never seems to work around here. As we figured a few pages back, vegetables (and we might need to specify non-starchy veggies) seems to be the only thing universally agreed to be healthy. And I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there's a WOE out there that disagrees on even that.
I've heard that sentiment from a few of the more vocal low carbers here.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »Honestly Clean eating is getting so convoluted why can't people stop breaking into the hype of all these dad diets
Dad diets are so lame. Tell silly jokes and jog to Wilco.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »Why do people even do Paleo? It looks ridiculous
People do lots of things that are ridiculous0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »Honestly Clean eating is getting so convoluted why can't people stop breaking into the hype of all these dad diets and realize that it is good if you were going to want to eat like that already. But generally you do not need to conform to rules to lose weight.
Except for the one rule that rules them all.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »Why do people even do Paleo? It looks ridiculous
People do lots of things that are ridiculous
Like drink ACV becau... oh, wrong thread.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »Honestly Clean eating is getting so convoluted why can't people stop breaking into the hype of all these dad diets
Dad diets are so lame. Tell silly jokes and jog to Wilco.
Hey, I jog to Wilco all the time!
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Okay, so we have no chemicals, no processing, mostly plant-based and whole foods all combining into a definition of clean eating in this recent post. The wanting clean eating friends for sharing recipes I understand, but I'm not sure what workouts have to do with eating style. Apparently clean eaters have their own special exercise regimen too? (And yes, I do know that Paleo and Crossfit often cross paths.)
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »Honestly Clean eating is getting so convoluted why can't people stop breaking into the hype of all these dad diets and realize that it is good if you were going to want to eat like that already. But generally you do not need to conform to rules to lose weight.
Except for the one rule that rules them all.
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DancingDarl wrote: »californiagirl2012 wrote: »It's about the silliest word ever for food. We all know what healthy is. Just do it.
"Healthy" is no less a vague, subjective term. There are people who believe that "healthy" means eating nothing but plant-based foods. There are others who believe that "healthy" is coffee with a huge dollop of butter in it for breakfast and a diet consisting of 80-90% fat. Some seem to believe that if you even go near anything with HFCS, GMO or sugar, you'll immediately bloat up with huge tumors. There's just as much woo and derp about "healthy" as there is about "clean". The thing they have in common is that context and dosage are usually not taken into consideration.
Proof is in the pudding then isn't it. If you are healthy people can see it and tell the difference. It is harder to spot in profile pictures online as everyone on here seems to be quite private...which is fair enough.
Mmmmmm, buttery, meaty pudding.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »There was a Facebook thing going round here with Ash Bines- clean eating plan. Not particularly useful as everyone knows vegetables and fruit legumes nuts are good for you. I honestly think the health and fitness industry enjoys making it confusing and seem more complicated than it actually is.
Balanced eating would be a better slogan or catch phrase. Or even moderated.
Re: the bolded section. I'm guessing you aren't familiar with the Paleo Diet?
Please insert or make a point.
Paleo Diet purports that legumes are unhealthy.
Yeah, tell a Paleo-er that legumes are healthy, and they'll Phyto you about it.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »californiagirl2012 wrote: »It's about the silliest word ever for food. We all know what healthy is. Just do it.
"Healthy" is no less a vague, subjective term. There are people who believe that "healthy" means eating nothing but plant-based foods. There are others who believe that "healthy" is coffee with a huge dollop of butter in it for breakfast and a diet consisting of 80-90% fat. Some seem to believe that if you even go near anything with HFCS, GMO or sugar, you'll immediately bloat up with huge tumors. There's just as much woo and derp about "healthy" as there is about "clean". The thing they have in common is that context and dosage are usually not taken into consideration.
Proof is in the pudding then isn't it. If you are healthy people can see it and tell the difference. It is harder to spot in profile pictures online as everyone on here seems to be quite private...which is fair enough.
Mmmmmm, buttery, meaty pudding.
Gillian McKeith doesn't look so horrible when she's gussied up either.
http://gillianmckeith.com/
And Nigella (who I am a fan of) is overweight, maybe even obese.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »californiagirl2012 wrote: »It's about the silliest word ever for food. We all know what healthy is. Just do it.
"Healthy" is no less a vague, subjective term. There are people who believe that "healthy" means eating nothing but plant-based foods. There are others who believe that "healthy" is coffee with a huge dollop of butter in it for breakfast and a diet consisting of 80-90% fat. Some seem to believe that if you even go near anything with HFCS, GMO or sugar, you'll immediately bloat up with huge tumors. There's just as much woo and derp about "healthy" as there is about "clean". The thing they have in common is that context and dosage are usually not taken into consideration.
Proof is in the pudding then isn't it. If you are healthy people can see it and tell the difference. It is harder to spot in profile pictures online as everyone on here seems to be quite private...which is fair enough.
Mmmmmm, buttery, meaty pudding.
Gillian McKeith doesn't look so horrible when she's gussied up either.
http://gillianmckeith.com/
And Nigella (who I am a fan of) is overweight, maybe even obese.
So you can't tell who's healthy by looking at that, particularly in one online picture?
You've said somethings I've disagreed with in the past, but now you're just spouting utter nonsense. Clearly single pictures of people is the only way to tell who's healthy.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »californiagirl2012 wrote: »It's about the silliest word ever for food. We all know what healthy is. Just do it.
"Healthy" is no less a vague, subjective term. There are people who believe that "healthy" means eating nothing but plant-based foods. There are others who believe that "healthy" is coffee with a huge dollop of butter in it for breakfast and a diet consisting of 80-90% fat. Some seem to believe that if you even go near anything with HFCS, GMO or sugar, you'll immediately bloat up with huge tumors. There's just as much woo and derp about "healthy" as there is about "clean". The thing they have in common is that context and dosage are usually not taken into consideration.
Proof is in the pudding then isn't it. If you are healthy people can see it and tell the difference. It is harder to spot in profile pictures online as everyone on here seems to be quite private...which is fair enough.
Mmmmmm, buttery, meaty pudding.
Gillian McKeith doesn't look so horrible when she's gussied up either.
http://gillianmckeith.com/
And Nigella (who I am a fan of) is overweight, maybe even obese.
Obese??
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Carlos_421 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »californiagirl2012 wrote: »It's about the silliest word ever for food. We all know what healthy is. Just do it.
"Healthy" is no less a vague, subjective term. There are people who believe that "healthy" means eating nothing but plant-based foods. There are others who believe that "healthy" is coffee with a huge dollop of butter in it for breakfast and a diet consisting of 80-90% fat. Some seem to believe that if you even go near anything with HFCS, GMO or sugar, you'll immediately bloat up with huge tumors. There's just as much woo and derp about "healthy" as there is about "clean". The thing they have in common is that context and dosage are usually not taken into consideration.
Proof is in the pudding then isn't it. If you are healthy people can see it and tell the difference. It is harder to spot in profile pictures online as everyone on here seems to be quite private...which is fair enough.
Mmmmmm, buttery, meaty pudding.
Gillian McKeith doesn't look so horrible when she's gussied up either.
http://gillianmckeith.com/
And Nigella (who I am a fan of) is overweight, maybe even obese.
Obese??
I am a big consumer of food media and television. Her weight seems to fluctuate a bit. She may sometimes go into the "overweight" category, but I've never seen an image of her that made me think she was obese.
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Carlos_421 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »californiagirl2012 wrote: »It's about the silliest word ever for food. We all know what healthy is. Just do it.
"Healthy" is no less a vague, subjective term. There are people who believe that "healthy" means eating nothing but plant-based foods. There are others who believe that "healthy" is coffee with a huge dollop of butter in it for breakfast and a diet consisting of 80-90% fat. Some seem to believe that if you even go near anything with HFCS, GMO or sugar, you'll immediately bloat up with huge tumors. There's just as much woo and derp about "healthy" as there is about "clean". The thing they have in common is that context and dosage are usually not taken into consideration.
Proof is in the pudding then isn't it. If you are healthy people can see it and tell the difference. It is harder to spot in profile pictures online as everyone on here seems to be quite private...which is fair enough.
Mmmmmm, buttery, meaty pudding.
Gillian McKeith doesn't look so horrible when she's gussied up either.
http://gillianmckeith.com/
And Nigella (who I am a fan of) is overweight, maybe even obese.
Obese??
Maybe she's lost weight or maybe that's not a recent pic, but I've watched her show for years. She's definitely been overweight and very much so at times. But I do see that she's eating veggies here instead of meat, butter, chocolate or desserts so maybe she's changed her ways.
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Carlos_421 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »californiagirl2012 wrote: »It's about the silliest word ever for food. We all know what healthy is. Just do it.
"Healthy" is no less a vague, subjective term. There are people who believe that "healthy" means eating nothing but plant-based foods. There are others who believe that "healthy" is coffee with a huge dollop of butter in it for breakfast and a diet consisting of 80-90% fat. Some seem to believe that if you even go near anything with HFCS, GMO or sugar, you'll immediately bloat up with huge tumors. There's just as much woo and derp about "healthy" as there is about "clean". The thing they have in common is that context and dosage are usually not taken into consideration.
Proof is in the pudding then isn't it. If you are healthy people can see it and tell the difference. It is harder to spot in profile pictures online as everyone on here seems to be quite private...which is fair enough.
Mmmmmm, buttery, meaty pudding.
Gillian McKeith doesn't look so horrible when she's gussied up either.
http://gillianmckeith.com/
And Nigella (who I am a fan of) is overweight, maybe even obese.
Obese??
Apparently her weight has fluctuated at some points, so she might have been obese at some point.
She was a size 16 (UK?) at her largest according to the Daily Fail, and might now be a 12 (UK?). I don't know, women's sizing is arcane sorcery to me even when it isn't measured in Limeys.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »californiagirl2012 wrote: »It's about the silliest word ever for food. We all know what healthy is. Just do it.
"Healthy" is no less a vague, subjective term. There are people who believe that "healthy" means eating nothing but plant-based foods. There are others who believe that "healthy" is coffee with a huge dollop of butter in it for breakfast and a diet consisting of 80-90% fat. Some seem to believe that if you even go near anything with HFCS, GMO or sugar, you'll immediately bloat up with huge tumors. There's just as much woo and derp about "healthy" as there is about "clean". The thing they have in common is that context and dosage are usually not taken into consideration.
Proof is in the pudding then isn't it. If you are healthy people can see it and tell the difference. It is harder to spot in profile pictures online as everyone on here seems to be quite private...which is fair enough.
Mmmmmm, buttery, meaty pudding.
Gillian McKeith doesn't look so horrible when she's gussied up either.
http://gillianmckeith.com/
And Nigella (who I am a fan of) is overweight, maybe even obese.
Obese??
Apparently her weight has fluctuated at some points, so she might have been obese at some point.
She was a size 16 (UK?) at her largest according to the Daily Fail, and might now be a 12 (UK?). I don't know, women's sizing is arcane sorcery to me even when it isn't measured in Limeys.
It is the darkest of dark magics.0 -
Washing your food before you eat it... like raccoons.0
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Clean eating is a myth. Ask what is dirty eating. It's a stupid turn of phrase.0
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »californiagirl2012 wrote: »It's about the silliest word ever for food. We all know what healthy is. Just do it.
"Healthy" is no less a vague, subjective term. There are people who believe that "healthy" means eating nothing but plant-based foods. There are others who believe that "healthy" is coffee with a huge dollop of butter in it for breakfast and a diet consisting of 80-90% fat. Some seem to believe that if you even go near anything with HFCS, GMO or sugar, you'll immediately bloat up with huge tumors. There's just as much woo and derp about "healthy" as there is about "clean". The thing they have in common is that context and dosage are usually not taken into consideration.
Proof is in the pudding then isn't it. If you are healthy people can see it and tell the difference. It is harder to spot in profile pictures online as everyone on here seems to be quite private...which is fair enough.
Mmmmmm, buttery, meaty pudding.
Gillian McKeith doesn't look so horrible when she's gussied up either.
http://gillianmckeith.com/
And Nigella (who I am a fan of) is overweight, maybe even obese.
So you can't tell who's healthy by looking at that, particularly in one online picture?
You've said somethings I've disagreed with in the past, but now you're just spouting utter nonsense. Clearly single pictures of people is the only way to tell who's healthy.
I might be biased though, as I'm willing to not just use my image, but pit my results against Batman.0 -
ElviraMarieCerri wrote: »Clean eating is a myth. Ask what is dirty eating. It's a stupid turn of phrase.
A myth? In what way?0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ElviraMarieCerri wrote: »Clean eating is a myth. Ask what is dirty eating. It's a stupid turn of phrase.
A myth? In what way?
About 70% Yeti, 30% El Chupacabra.0
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