Counting Steps FAD
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Your Fitbits are not counting your steps at all. They are counting your HAND MOTIONS. I borrowed my friend's for 2 days just to see. First day I had over 12,000 steps and all I did was four loads of laundry (clothes in washer, then moved to dryer, removed from dryer, then fold) and took the dog out 10 steps from my front door about six times. The next morning I already had 8,000 steps by noon. I was given credit for 2,839 steps for BLOW DRYING MY HAIR.
I don't see why ANYONE would have a problem logging 10,000 steps with this device just going about normal daily activities (especially involving hands).
So I went on AMAZON to see all the NEGATIVE REVIEWS specifically for the FitBit Charge HR. Here are some quotes for just the first 50 page of 300 pages of one star reviews.
STEPS FROM HAND MOTIONS
1. I bought this device for my wife in December. Since then, we have determined that it does not count steps, it counts hand movements. A guy sitting at a bar doing 12 oz. curls would probably register a fairly hard workout wearing this device.
2. I am a crocheter and if you don't take the devise off before you crochet, it counts every stitch as a step
3. I was ironing one night and looked at the Fitbit before I started and I had some 8,000 steps. An hour later after wearing the fitbit on my left arm and ironing with my right arm I had over 10,000 steps!!!.
4. Can walk 20 steps or more when cleaning my teeth.
5. The thing counts my "steps" as I drive. I turn the wheel, I get a few steps. I drive all day for work, so the "steps" add up quickly even though I have yet to get off of my butt. I can also reach above my head and back down, and I get a step or two added to my count.
6. When my husband claps his hands and his step count goes up.
8. The Fitbit I received from Amazon logged steps whenever I waved my hand around.
9. Adds 2k to 5k extra steps when I am not walking but doing the wash, folding laundry, or painting. I learned to remove the Fitbit when I am doing housework.
10. Today, I sat at my desk looking at my iPhone while waving my hand and the step count just kept going up until I stopped waving my hand!!! Smh.
11. I watched it add 100 steps just while sitting at my desk for the first hour of work
13. This is HORRIBLE if your going to push a stroller at all. It will not count your steps AT ALL while pushing.
14. Unless your arms swing like a monkey when you walk, forget about it reading movement as a step. The first night I had it I spend 45 minutes grocery shopping and had a grand total of zero steps for my effort since I was pushing the cart.
STEPS WHILE RIDING
1. I drive a compact car on city streets, and it continuously counts these as "steps".
2. Counts steps while riding golf cart
3. The next day I got 2 flights of stairs on an elevator, then 3 more on the way home in my car.
COUNTING NON-EXISTENT STAIRS
4. Apparently I have climbed 150 flights of stairs today. I have not. I have maybe climbed 15 flights.
5. Live in a bungalow yet climb 10 sets of stairs on average each day
19 . The step counter credits me while sitting and reading. I am credited for walking flights of stairs when stairs are not in sight.
19. I put it on and by the time i walked down stairs it said i did 900 steps.
20. It does not count floors/stairs properly. It’s pretty good when you can climb a flight a stairs without leaving your chair.
21. Yesterday I walked 2 miles (according to my SHealth) on this thing it was 7 flights of stairs, over 10,000 steps!
22. Records THOUSANDS of extra steps in a day, and DOZENS of extra flights
23. At the end of the day, it said I had climbed 17 floors when I really didn't climb a single one!
COUNTING STEPS IN BED OR IN SLEEP
1. Counted steps when I was in bed
2. I've woken up and it's said I've walked over 100 steps while asleep
3. Shows hundreds of steps as I was a sleep
4. FitBit says I've walked 95 steps before even getting out of bed in the morning. I don't sleepwalk.
5. it had me walking over 10,000 steps on a day I was home sick in bed
6. The first morning I wore it, I checked it before even leaving the bed. It said I had taken 14 steps already, burned over 1,000 calories, and walked over 1 mile. All before even getting out of bed.
7. I was sick this past Monday and stayed in bed all day and it logged 2,000 steps.
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So, just for the record, we are changing the objection with step counting now?
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How about your wall of text, lots of calories burnt there. What do you do for exercise?0
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koinflipper wrote: »Your Fitbits are not counting your steps at all. They are counting your HAND MOTIONS. I borrowed my friend's for 2 days just to see. First day I had over 12,000 steps and all I did was four loads of laundry (clothes in washer, then moved to dryer, removed from dryer, then fold) and took the dog out 10 steps from my front door about six times. The next morning I already had 8,000 steps by noon. I was given credit for 2,839 steps for BLOW DRYING MY HAIR.
Wow, you're getting really agitated about how other people live their lives.
I just got an extra 1000 false positives on my VivoSmart during a 1hr, 30km, road session. When I was pushing a shopping trolley around the supermarket last night my Vivosmart will have undercounted because my hand wouldn't be moving enough to register the steps.
A number of people in thread have made observations about these things being tools and they have to be used with a degree of thought.
I'm still not seeing your point. If they help people get up and move around then that's fine.
Who are you to tell them they shouldn't?
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This is one guys review on AMAZON that sums it all up nicely:
"If the Charge HR were a person, he would be a pathological liar. Everything about it is inaccurate. Gesturing is registered as steps. Taking the elevator at work is registered as walking up stairs. Somehow we even register steps while sleeping. At dinner the other night, my Fitbit Charge HR vibrated in celebration of my having reached 10,000 steps. However, I'd been sitting in the restaurant for about an hour when that happened. And the heart rate? I'd probably get more accurate readings if I pulled numbers out of a hat."
And there is currently a class action lawsuit about the HRM on the Fitbit Charge HR: http://fortune.com/2016/01/06/fitbit-heart-rate-accuracy-lawsuit/0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »JustMissTracy wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Cherimoose wrote: »koinflipper wrote: »I am a big disbeliever in the idea that counting steps taken under any circumstances during the day are actually has any meaning to becoming physically fit. My physiology classes in graduate school taught me that to contribute towards fitness, there must be sustained physical activity for at least 30 minutes at cardio training level.
As you might have learned in your physiology classes, the lymphatic system is stimulated by movement, but since the effects only last a few minutes, frequent movement is essential for proper health. That's where 10,000 steps scattered throughout the day trumps 30 minutes of cardio. "Cardio" is a recent invention intended to counteract the sedentary lifestyle of the industrial age. Prior to that, people kept in shape mostly by doing low-intensity activities like walking.
Actually, they would keep in shape mostly by doing physical labour, both at work and at home, and participating in sports depending on age and circumstances. Prior to the 80's people tended to get their exercise in sports like tennis, running, hockey, football etc and not necessarily in an organized league or club. People didn't watch much TV until the 80's so they actually did activities to occupy their time otherwise and now they tend to sit around a lot more.
I think you're right on the money with this post...and I blame Full House and the Cosby show....before that, no one binge watched tv....
Cosby was great but I couldn't stand Full House, does that make me a bad person? As for the 70's, M*A*S*H* was the best show ever, but I only had 13 cable channels but 1 was UHF, so it was out; 13 was community TV and was mostly just text bulletins, 9 and 10 where the same since 10 was the local an it washed out the cable, and 5 was French. Yeah, we didn't want to watch that much TV because there wasn't much good on. Oh wait there still isn't!
Very little worth wasting hours in front of the tv these days! When I was really young, we had an antenna....meaning I would sit at the tv with dad at the couch, and I would slowly turn the dial as we hit the channels...so if you found something Dad liked, it stayed on that channel most of the day. Hehe, I guess I just dated myself! I'm willing to bet very few people under 40 would even know what I'm talking about!0 -
I think the final solution for you, koinflipper, is to NOT buy one. Problem solved.
ps: I stayed in bed a day last week and did not chalk up thousands of points. I guess we're doing different things when staying in bed for a day.0 -
I don't have a FitBit so I don't know about issues with specific models. My Garmin that I use for swimming, biking and running also counts steps. I haven't had an issue with getting high step counts. I do check on occasion to see if it is counting while I am driving, it doesn't. It doesn't count stairs so no worries there. I am sure it picks up the occasional movement that isn't steps but there are also times when I am walking when it doesn't get counted because I am carrying something. I figure it evens out.
Is it exact right down to the step - nope. But I don't care. It does show an overall trend. I have higher steps on the days that I am more active and fewer on the days I am not active. I haven't seen any numbers to suggest excessive overestimating on the device's part. I am nowhere near 10,000 steps on an inactive day, accidental step count or not.0 -
koinflipper wrote: »This is one guys review on AMAZON that sums it all up nicely:
"If the Charge HR were a person, he would be a pathological liar. Everything about it is inaccurate. Gesturing is registered as steps. Taking the elevator at work is registered as walking up stairs. Somehow we even register steps while sleeping. At dinner the other night, my Fitbit Charge HR vibrated in celebration of my having reached 10,000 steps. However, I'd been sitting in the restaurant for about an hour when that happened. And the heart rate? I'd probably get more accurate readings if I pulled numbers out of a hat."
And there is currently a class action lawsuit about the HRM on the Fitbit Charge HR: http://fortune.com/2016/01/06/fitbit-heart-rate-accuracy-lawsuit/
You sure do a lot of bitching and complaining. I think Fitbit is awesome and they have wonderful customer service. Not sure who you are trying to convince. Yourself?0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »I think the final solution for you, koinflipper, is to NOT buy one. Problem solved.
Exactly.
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koinflipper wrote: »Your Fitbits are not counting your steps at all. They are counting your HAND MOTIONS. I borrowed my friend's for 2 days just to see. First day I had over 12,000 steps and all I did was four loads of laundry (clothes in washer, then moved to dryer, removed from dryer, then fold) and took the dog out 10 steps from my front door about six times. The next morning I already had 8,000 steps by noon. I was given credit for 2,839 steps for BLOW DRYING MY HAIR.
I don't see why ANYONE would have a problem logging 10,000 steps with this device just going about normal daily activities (especially involving hands).
So I went on AMAZON to see all the NEGATIVE REVIEWS specifically for the FitBit Charge HR. Here are some quotes for just the first 50 page of 300 pages of one star reviews.
STEPS FROM HAND MOTIONS
1. I bought this device for my wife in December. Since then, we have determined that it does not count steps, it counts hand movements. A guy sitting at a bar doing 12 oz. curls would probably register a fairly hard workout wearing this device.
2. I am a crocheter and if you don't take the devise off before you crochet, it counts every stitch as a step
3. I was ironing one night and looked at the Fitbit before I started and I had some 8,000 steps. An hour later after wearing the fitbit on my left arm and ironing with my right arm I had over 10,000 steps!!!.
4. Can walk 20 steps or more when cleaning my teeth.
5. The thing counts my "steps" as I drive. I turn the wheel, I get a few steps. I drive all day for work, so the "steps" add up quickly even though I have yet to get off of my butt. I can also reach above my head and back down, and I get a step or two added to my count.
6. When my husband claps his hands and his step count goes up.
8. The Fitbit I received from Amazon logged steps whenever I waved my hand around.
9. Adds 2k to 5k extra steps when I am not walking but doing the wash, folding laundry, or painting. I learned to remove the Fitbit when I am doing housework.
10. Today, I sat at my desk looking at my iPhone while waving my hand and the step count just kept going up until I stopped waving my hand!!! Smh.
11. I watched it add 100 steps just while sitting at my desk for the first hour of work
13. This is HORRIBLE if your going to push a stroller at all. It will not count your steps AT ALL while pushing.
14. Unless your arms swing like a monkey when you walk, forget about it reading movement as a step. The first night I had it I spend 45 minutes grocery shopping and had a grand total of zero steps for my effort since I was pushing the cart.
STEPS WHILE RIDING
1. I drive a compact car on city streets, and it continuously counts these as "steps".
2. Counts steps while riding golf cart
3. The next day I got 2 flights of stairs on an elevator, then 3 more on the way home in my car.
COUNTING NON-EXISTENT STAIRS
4. Apparently I have climbed 150 flights of stairs today. I have not. I have maybe climbed 15 flights.
5. Live in a bungalow yet climb 10 sets of stairs on average each day
19 . The step counter credits me while sitting and reading. I am credited for walking flights of stairs when stairs are not in sight.
19. I put it on and by the time i walked down stairs it said i did 900 steps.
20. It does not count floors/stairs properly. It’s pretty good when you can climb a flight a stairs without leaving your chair.
21. Yesterday I walked 2 miles (according to my SHealth) on this thing it was 7 flights of stairs, over 10,000 steps!
22. Records THOUSANDS of extra steps in a day, and DOZENS of extra flights
23. At the end of the day, it said I had climbed 17 floors when I really didn't climb a single one!
COUNTING STEPS IN BED OR IN SLEEP
1. Counted steps when I was in bed
2. I've woken up and it's said I've walked over 100 steps while asleep
3. Shows hundreds of steps as I was a sleep
4. FitBit says I've walked 95 steps before even getting out of bed in the morning. I don't sleepwalk.
5. it had me walking over 10,000 steps on a day I was home sick in bed
6. The first morning I wore it, I checked it before even leaving the bed. It said I had taken 14 steps already, burned over 1,000 calories, and walked over 1 mile. All before even getting out of bed.
7. I was sick this past Monday and stayed in bed all day and it logged 2,000 steps.
Sorry....I don't believe most of these. Because of my own experiences. I highly doubt ANYONE got those types of steps out of laying in bed all day, ever. Nice try tho. Since January, I've only gotten above 10000 steps 4 times. Yesterday I managed over 12000 for the first time, and believe me, I put effort into getting every one of those steps, as I work from home and my home is quite small. If I didn't have the Fitbit to remind me of how little I was moving, I'd still be averaging 5000 a day, max. Someone said it earlier, if you are so against it, don't get one. Trying one on for two days is a joke, a slap in our faces. How about doing a couple of months sincerely, tracking, and then showing us if you notice any difference in your own health?0 -
koinflipper wrote: »Your Fitbits are not counting your steps at all. They are counting your HAND MOTIONS.
21. Yesterday I walked 2 miles (according to my SHealth) on this thing it was 7 flights of stairs, over 10,000 steps!
22. Records THOUSANDS of extra steps in a day, and DOZENS of extra flights
COUNTING STEPS IN BED OR IN SLEEP
1. Counted steps when I was in bed
2. I've woken up and it's said I've walked over 100 steps while asleep
3. Shows hundreds of steps as I was a sleep
4. FitBit says I've walked 95 steps before even getting out of bed in the morning. I don't sleepwalk.
5. it had me walking over 10,000 steps on a day I was home sick in bed
6. The first morning I wore it, I checked it before even leaving the bed. It said I had taken 14 steps already, burned over 1,000 calories, and walked over 1 mile. All before even getting out of bed.
7. I was sick this past Monday and stayed in bed all day and it logged 2,000 steps.
As for extra floors climbed, I've had this problem before and mostly resolved it by resetting the device.
My device usually does count extra steps while I'm in bed, but I "make up for it" by just walking the extra 25-100 steps without the device. That's not a major deal IMO.
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ForecasterJason wrote: »koinflipper wrote: »Your Fitbits are not counting your steps at all. They are counting your HAND MOTIONS.
21. Yesterday I walked 2 miles (according to my SHealth) on this thing it was 7 flights of stairs, over 10,000 steps!
22. Records THOUSANDS of extra steps in a day, and DOZENS of extra flights
COUNTING STEPS IN BED OR IN SLEEP
1. Counted steps when I was in bed
2. I've woken up and it's said I've walked over 100 steps while asleep
3. Shows hundreds of steps as I was a sleep
4. FitBit says I've walked 95 steps before even getting out of bed in the morning. I don't sleepwalk.
5. it had me walking over 10,000 steps on a day I was home sick in bed
6. The first morning I wore it, I checked it before even leaving the bed. It said I had taken 14 steps already, burned over 1,000 calories, and walked over 1 mile. All before even getting out of bed.
7. I was sick this past Monday and stayed in bed all day and it logged 2,000 steps.
As for extra floors climbed, I've had this problem before and mostly resolved it by resetting the device.
My device usually does count extra steps while I'm in bed, but I "make up for it" by just walking the extra 25-100 steps without the device. That's not a major deal IMO.
The Fitbit uses an althermeter (sp?) to measure your floors. So if you go up in a lift it'll register floors but not steps. Unless you're in a very shaky lift or walking on the spot no steps will be counted.0 -
@koinflipper
So you've changed your point of disagreement with stepcounting and still haven't answered simple questions about what you do for "fitness". It seems when your first point was undermined with logic, you changed to a totally new rant.0 -
My Fitbit HR charge shows 0 steps when I wake up. It doesn't count my hand movements as steps. Days I've been home in bed it only shows 500 or so steps. It's helped me be much more cognizant of my activity level and even my sleep. I love it.
It's the same as any other reviews like trip advisor or Yelp. The complainers are always super loud and screamy.0 -
thankyou4thevenom wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »koinflipper wrote: »Your Fitbits are not counting your steps at all. They are counting your HAND MOTIONS.
21. Yesterday I walked 2 miles (according to my SHealth) on this thing it was 7 flights of stairs, over 10,000 steps!
22. Records THOUSANDS of extra steps in a day, and DOZENS of extra flights
COUNTING STEPS IN BED OR IN SLEEP
1. Counted steps when I was in bed
2. I've woken up and it's said I've walked over 100 steps while asleep
3. Shows hundreds of steps as I was a sleep
4. FitBit says I've walked 95 steps before even getting out of bed in the morning. I don't sleepwalk.
5. it had me walking over 10,000 steps on a day I was home sick in bed
6. The first morning I wore it, I checked it before even leaving the bed. It said I had taken 14 steps already, burned over 1,000 calories, and walked over 1 mile. All before even getting out of bed.
7. I was sick this past Monday and stayed in bed all day and it logged 2,000 steps.
As for extra floors climbed, I've had this problem before and mostly resolved it by resetting the device.
My device usually does count extra steps while I'm in bed, but I "make up for it" by just walking the extra 25-100 steps without the device. That's not a major deal IMO.
The Fitbit uses an althermeter (sp?) to measure your floors. So if you go up in a lift it'll register floors but not steps. Unless you're in a very shaky lift or walking on the spot no steps will be counted.
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So what's your metric for being physically fit, a sub 3 hour marathon or 10,000 steps a day? Runners use miles per day, less fit people use step per day. If they help increase your fitness level why not use it? So what if it's a fad, some fads are good.0
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ForecasterJason wrote: »thankyou4thevenom wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »koinflipper wrote: »Your Fitbits are not counting your steps at all. They are counting your HAND MOTIONS.
21. Yesterday I walked 2 miles (according to my SHealth) on this thing it was 7 flights of stairs, over 10,000 steps!
22. Records THOUSANDS of extra steps in a day, and DOZENS of extra flights
COUNTING STEPS IN BED OR IN SLEEP
1. Counted steps when I was in bed
2. I've woken up and it's said I've walked over 100 steps while asleep
3. Shows hundreds of steps as I was a sleep
4. FitBit says I've walked 95 steps before even getting out of bed in the morning. I don't sleepwalk.
5. it had me walking over 10,000 steps on a day I was home sick in bed
6. The first morning I wore it, I checked it before even leaving the bed. It said I had taken 14 steps already, burned over 1,000 calories, and walked over 1 mile. All before even getting out of bed.
7. I was sick this past Monday and stayed in bed all day and it logged 2,000 steps.
As for extra floors climbed, I've had this problem before and mostly resolved it by resetting the device.
My device usually does count extra steps while I'm in bed, but I "make up for it" by just walking the extra 25-100 steps without the device. That's not a major deal IMO.
The Fitbit uses an althermeter (sp?) to measure your floors. So if you go up in a lift it'll register floors but not steps. Unless you're in a very shaky lift or walking on the spot no steps will be counted.
One day it was off? Maybe it was lint. When mine gets wonky, I clean mine and all is right with the world.0 -
Amazon buyers will complain about anything. All popular products have these negative reviews. A pedometer is a tool that has been used for a long while now. Some people find them useful, so what? I have no idea why it grinds your gears that the goals some people have and the tools they utilize to achieve them happen to be different from yours.0
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JustMissTracy wrote: »koinflipper wrote: »Your Fitbits are not counting your steps at all. They are counting your HAND MOTIONS. I borrowed my friend's for 2 days just to see. First day I had over 12,000 steps and all I did was four loads of laundry (clothes in washer, then moved to dryer, removed from dryer, then fold) and took the dog out 10 steps from my front door about six times. The next morning I already had 8,000 steps by noon. I was given credit for 2,839 steps for BLOW DRYING MY HAIR.
I don't see why ANYONE would have a problem logging 10,000 steps with this device just going about normal daily activities (especially involving hands).
So I went on AMAZON to see all the NEGATIVE REVIEWS specifically for the FitBit Charge HR. Here are some quotes for just the first 50 page of 300 pages of one star reviews.
STEPS FROM HAND MOTIONS
1. I bought this device for my wife in December. Since then, we have determined that it does not count steps, it counts hand movements. A guy sitting at a bar doing 12 oz. curls would probably register a fairly hard workout wearing this device.
2. I am a crocheter and if you don't take the devise off before you crochet, it counts every stitch as a step
3. I was ironing one night and looked at the Fitbit before I started and I had some 8,000 steps. An hour later after wearing the fitbit on my left arm and ironing with my right arm I had over 10,000 steps!!!.
4. Can walk 20 steps or more when cleaning my teeth.
5. The thing counts my "steps" as I drive. I turn the wheel, I get a few steps. I drive all day for work, so the "steps" add up quickly even though I have yet to get off of my butt. I can also reach above my head and back down, and I get a step or two added to my count.
6. When my husband claps his hands and his step count goes up.
8. The Fitbit I received from Amazon logged steps whenever I waved my hand around.
9. Adds 2k to 5k extra steps when I am not walking but doing the wash, folding laundry, or painting. I learned to remove the Fitbit when I am doing housework.
10. Today, I sat at my desk looking at my iPhone while waving my hand and the step count just kept going up until I stopped waving my hand!!! Smh.
11. I watched it add 100 steps just while sitting at my desk for the first hour of work
13. This is HORRIBLE if your going to push a stroller at all. It will not count your steps AT ALL while pushing.
14. Unless your arms swing like a monkey when you walk, forget about it reading movement as a step. The first night I had it I spend 45 minutes grocery shopping and had a grand total of zero steps for my effort since I was pushing the cart.
STEPS WHILE RIDING
1. I drive a compact car on city streets, and it continuously counts these as "steps".
2. Counts steps while riding golf cart
3. The next day I got 2 flights of stairs on an elevator, then 3 more on the way home in my car.
COUNTING NON-EXISTENT STAIRS
4. Apparently I have climbed 150 flights of stairs today. I have not. I have maybe climbed 15 flights.
5. Live in a bungalow yet climb 10 sets of stairs on average each day
19 . The step counter credits me while sitting and reading. I am credited for walking flights of stairs when stairs are not in sight.
19. I put it on and by the time i walked down stairs it said i did 900 steps.
20. It does not count floors/stairs properly. It’s pretty good when you can climb a flight a stairs without leaving your chair.
21. Yesterday I walked 2 miles (according to my SHealth) on this thing it was 7 flights of stairs, over 10,000 steps!
22. Records THOUSANDS of extra steps in a day, and DOZENS of extra flights
23. At the end of the day, it said I had climbed 17 floors when I really didn't climb a single one!
COUNTING STEPS IN BED OR IN SLEEP
1. Counted steps when I was in bed
2. I've woken up and it's said I've walked over 100 steps while asleep
3. Shows hundreds of steps as I was a sleep
4. FitBit says I've walked 95 steps before even getting out of bed in the morning. I don't sleepwalk.
5. it had me walking over 10,000 steps on a day I was home sick in bed
6. The first morning I wore it, I checked it before even leaving the bed. It said I had taken 14 steps already, burned over 1,000 calories, and walked over 1 mile. All before even getting out of bed.
7. I was sick this past Monday and stayed in bed all day and it logged 2,000 steps.
Sorry....I don't believe most of these. Because of my own experiences. I highly doubt ANYONE got those types of steps out of laying in bed all day, ever. Nice try tho. Since January, I've only gotten above 10000 steps 4 times. Yesterday I managed over 12000 for the first time, and believe me, I put effort into getting every one of those steps, as I work from home and my home is quite small. If I didn't have the Fitbit to remind me of how little I was moving, I'd still be averaging 5000 a day, max. Someone said it earlier, if you are so against it, don't get one. Trying one on for two days is a joke, a slap in our faces. How about doing a couple of months sincerely, tracking, and then showing us if you notice any difference in your own health?
My thoughts too, Amazon reviews are mostly garbage and unreliable. I've noticed a few times when it gave false positives but they were low, not in the hundreds or even thousands per day and you can adjust the sensitivity of a FitBit to lower the count. I've heard stories about steps from typing etc but I've had 4 different counters and I've put them through tests and they are pretty good at filtering noise. I've never seen anything fro typing, or swaying back and forth on my heels or such. I think a lot of these people are not being truthful. I also love all the reviews on Amazon that start off about how they just ordered the product and are excited or that they bought it for someone else, or someone knows someone who had a friend who had one. Yeah, just ignore those reviews a lot of them are from dubious sources.0
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