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It really dependsqueenliz99 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food.
I know this is all confusing, so I've created a simple formula:
Focus on protein for all your meals, start the day with lower carbs, and increase your carbs with each meal.
Why exactly?
Protein keeps you fuller longer, and crushes cravings! If you start the day with high amounts of carbs, you send your blood sugar spiking, increase cortisol levels AKA your stress hormone, which sends signals to the brain that it's time to store fat (primal survival instinct)!
Higher amounts of carbs later in the day, however, increases the production of melatonin, which helps our bodies sleep better!
Admittedly, I'm still ironing out the little details, but I've followed this formula daily since last February, and have lost more than 60 pounds, and now my body feels the best it ever has!
Citation? And not some blog Only Pubmed, ResearchGate etc.0 -
If it is a citation, I'm unaware of the source.0
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queenliz99 wrote: »Maybe for you but not for everyone. I eat carbs at every meal and eat after 7pm and now am in maintenance. Meal timing is a irrelevant and macros are a personal choice.
In my experience, you're right, but the trouble comes if you consistently outnumber grams, ounces, etc of protein with carbs!0 -
Why would you increase carbs with each meal? From what I understand if you're going to consider amount of carbs you'd want to start with most at the start of the day for energy purposes...and decrease as the day goes on. I'm eating low carb so either way I'm not eating many carbs.0
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queenliz99 wrote: »Maybe for you but not for everyone. I eat carbs at every meal and eat after 7pm and now am in maintenance. Meal timing is a irrelevant and macros are a personal choice.
In my experience, you're right, but the trouble comes if you consistently outnumber grams, ounces, etc of protein with carbs!
But that is the point, your way of eating is just that your way of eating. Blanket statements advising someone not to eat after 7 is silly. What if the poster gets home after 7, sorry you can't eat it's too late.0 -
It's 8:30 here and I'm just sitting down to dinner. I must admit I *do* feel resentful, but my loathing is directed more at the PM who made me work so late.
It doesn't seem to have any effect on my weight loss, though. In fact, I eat all the way up until bedtime. I guess the carbs in my nightly glass of wine cancel out the fat from the pistachios.0 -
Heyqueenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Maybe for you but not for everyone. I eat carbs at every meal and eat after 7pm and now am in maintenance. Meal timing is a irrelevant and macros are a personal choice.
In my experience, you're right, but the trouble comes if you consistently outnumber grams, ounces, etc of protein with carbs!
But that is the point, your way of eating is just that your way of eating. Blanket statements advising someone not to eat after 7 is silly. What if the poster gets home after 7, sorry you can't eat it's too late.
Hey, I eat after 7 too! Doesn't matter how late you eat, just have carbs later, so it helps you sleep! More than anything, get a good night's sleep!0 -
Heyqueenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Maybe for you but not for everyone. I eat carbs at every meal and eat after 7pm and now am in maintenance. Meal timing is a irrelevant and macros are a personal choice.
In my experience, you're right, but the trouble comes if you consistently outnumber grams, ounces, etc of protein with carbs!
But that is the point, your way of eating is just that your way of eating. Blanket statements advising someone not to eat after 7 is silly. What if the poster gets home after 7, sorry you can't eat it's too late.
Hey, I eat after 7 too! Doesn't matter how late you eat, just have carbs later, so it helps you sleep! More than anything, get a good night's sleep!0 -
I think youForecasterJason wrote: »Heyqueenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Maybe for you but not for everyone. I eat carbs at every meal and eat after 7pm and now am in maintenance. Meal timing is a irrelevant and macros are a personal choice.
In my experience, you're right, but the trouble comes if you consistently outnumber grams, ounces, etc of protein with carbs!
But that is the point, your way of eating is just that your way of eating. Blanket statements advising someone not to eat after 7 is silly. What if the poster gets home after 7, sorry you can't eat it's too late.
Hey, I eat after 7 too! Doesn't matter how late you eat, just have carbs later, so it helps you sleep! More than anything, get a good night's sleep!
I think you misunderstand me, I'm not saying high-carbs like white pasta, I'm talking low carbs, like vegetables!0 -
It really dependsqueenliz99 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food.
I know this is all confusing, so I've created a simple formula:
Focus on protein for all your meals, start the day with lower carbs, and increase your carbs with each meal.
Why exactly?
Protein keeps you fuller longer, and crushes cravings! If you start the day with high amounts of carbs, you send your blood sugar spiking, increase cortisol levels AKA your stress hormone, which sends signals to the brain that it's time to store fat (primal survival instinct)!
Higher amounts of carbs later in the day, however, increases the production of melatonin, which helps our bodies sleep better!
Admittedly, I'm still ironing out the little details, but I've followed this formula daily since last February, and have lost more than 60 pounds, and now my body feels the best it ever has!
Food / eating typically lowers cortisol. Cortisol often rises in the morning as part of causing wakefulness.
Your advice actually sounds backwards.
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thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food...
Say what???I know this is all confusing, so I've created a simple formula:
Focus on protein for all your meals, start the day with lower carbs, and increase your carbs with each meal.
Any scientific research to back up your "formula", or is this all just n=1? I haven't seen you tie this together into anything which makes sense or has anything whatsoever to do with the original topic.0 -
concordancia wrote: »Did you know that in many European countries a 7pm dinner is considered early?
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thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food.
Um, it really shouldn't be that complicated to figure out how to eat to not be hungry and to be satisfied.
I sometimes eat lots of carbs at night and sometimes eat only protein and veg, doesn't matter. My overall diet and habits mean I am not hungry or craving food.0 -
shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
She is just wrong. Multiple scientific studies show that meal timing has little if anything to do with gaining or losing weight. Calorie intake vs energy use (calories out) is what controls weight.
I've eating at all kinds of strange hours since I've been an adult, and it hasn't caused any weight control issues.0 -
It really dependsqueenliz99 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food.
I know this is all confusing, so I've created a simple formula:
Focus on protein for all your meals, start the day with lower carbs, and increase your carbs with each meal.
Why exactly?
Protein keeps you fuller longer, and crushes cravings! If you start the day with high amounts of carbs, you send your blood sugar spiking, increase cortisol levels AKA your stress hormone, which sends signals to the brain that it's time to store fat (primal survival instinct)!
Higher amounts of carbs later in the day, however, increases the production of melatonin, which helps our bodies sleep better!
Admittedly, I'm still ironing out the little details, but I've followed this formula daily since last February, and have lost more than 60 pounds, and now my body feels the best it ever has!
Food / eating typically lowers cortisol. Cortisol often rises in the morning as part of causing wakefulness.
Your advice actually sounds backwards.0 -
it's untrue and I blame oprah for starting this popular myth. I remember watching shows where she was a proponent of this idea. and where oprah goes, so do her followers0
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ForecasterJason wrote: »It really dependsqueenliz99 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food.
I know this is all confusing, so I've created a simple formula:
Focus on protein for all your meals, start the day with lower carbs, and increase your carbs with each meal.
Why exactly?
Protein keeps you fuller longer, and crushes cravings! If you start the day with high amounts of carbs, you send your blood sugar spiking, increase cortisol levels AKA your stress hormone, which sends signals to the brain that it's time to store fat (primal survival instinct)!
Higher amounts of carbs later in the day, however, increases the production of melatonin, which helps our bodies sleep better!
Admittedly, I'm still ironing out the little details, but I've followed this formula daily since last February, and have lost more than 60 pounds, and now my body feels the best it ever has!
Food / eating typically lowers cortisol. Cortisol often rises in the morning as part of causing wakefulness.
Your advice actually sounds backwards.
The macronutrition distribution probably plays a part in lowering cortisol. My recollection is that carbs do it more than others, and that a problem for long term ketogenic diets may be high cortisol levels - I recall being blamed by some for causing sleep issues for people. Still, my recollection is that all foods should lower it some extent.0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »It really dependsqueenliz99 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food.
I know this is all confusing, so I've created a simple formula:
Focus on protein for all your meals, start the day with lower carbs, and increase your carbs with each meal.
Why exactly?
Protein keeps you fuller longer, and crushes cravings! If you start the day with high amounts of carbs, you send your blood sugar spiking, increase cortisol levels AKA your stress hormone, which sends signals to the brain that it's time to store fat (primal survival instinct)!
Higher amounts of carbs later in the day, however, increases the production of melatonin, which helps our bodies sleep better!
Admittedly, I'm still ironing out the little details, but I've followed this formula daily since last February, and have lost more than 60 pounds, and now my body feels the best it ever has!
Food / eating typically lowers cortisol. Cortisol often rises in the morning as part of causing wakefulness.
Your advice actually sounds backwards.
The macronutrition distribution probably plays a part in lowering cortisol. My recollection is that carbs do it more than others, and that a problem for long term ketogenic diets may be high cortisol levels - I recall being blamed by some for causing sleep issues for people. Still, my recollection is that all foods should lower it some extent.
Yes, I've read that about keto diets as well.0 -
It is suggested that you do not eat 3 hours before bedtime. There is no study linking eating before bedtime and gain weight on humans, only on mice.1
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