Bad weekend...stop the madness
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MommyMeggo wrote: »Dont ask me how much home made chicken and dumplings I had last night.
Just. Dont.
It was enough that I skipped weigh in today. lol.
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I didn't think you were blaming your wife at all, but yeah...I feel you. I have to ask my husband that we only go out once or twice a week or I will overindulge because I have a hard time controlling myself. It's not his fault I LOVE food, and the small town we live in has a wealth of local fine dining establishments with amazing wines, beers, cheeses, and wowza foods...if we go out, I'll have a glass of wine. But I have a hard time with one glass. So I'll have two glasses. But before we go out, I'll say, "One or two glasses, then home for dinner!" Two glasses later, I'm hungry and it's going to be another hour before we're doing socializing with friends and get home and get to cooking and it's really just easier to order a cheese plate or a few appetizers and, hey, ANOTHER GLASS OF WINE WHOOOOOO!!!!
Then I'm over my calorie budget by 4 digits. Yikes.
It's not my husband's fault that I can't control myself when we go out. We both need to go out. We both need to socialize. We both need a night off of cooking and being home. But I can ask him nicely to help me by limiting how much we go out together so that I can limit how much I overindulge, and since he's wonderful, we only go out around once a week
If you were referring to my post, thank you. I'm feeling bad already for "hijacking" the OP I was simply relating with the op's situation about weekend binge eating and actually offering an advice about eating satiating foods to deal with it. Protein and fat make you feel full fast and limit the damage.
You are right. We all get into food/weight problem one way or another. No judgment. Futile to do so anyway.
I can only speak for my own situation. As couple sometimes it can get difficult. Interestingly I always think that it'd be much easier to deal with weight issue if I were single. Examples, I could play sport all day, eat or not eat without any consideration for family. But that's something I won't find out at this time. Cheers.
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75poundgoal wrote: »So I had a very high calorie weekend because I had a lot of stuff going on and I didn't stay focused on eating right. The worst was Saturday night at a function for my daughters school where they served lots of food, dessert and booze. I overindulged to say the least. Today I feel sluggish and tired but I am going to make myself accountable and get back on track. I need to lose 5 lbs in order to break into the 230's which is a short term goal for me. I am going to do it over the next 2 weeks. I haven't been that light since I was in high school 20+ years ago. I am posting this so it will be out there and I will be accountable. No more weekend slacking!!!
I suggest logging everything (I know you'll have to estimate for an event like that, but use the MFP food database, and pick middle-to-high calorie examples of similar foods, in the right portions). It will help you think it through, and be accountable.
Then think about what went less than ideally (you've already identified some of the factors in your post), and consider some strategies that will help you avoid a similar problem in the future. Make a little movie in your head of you using those strategies, and play it over for yourself a few times. Play it again a few times before the next similar event.
Other than that, just get back on your healthy track as soon as you can after something like this. An occasional over-goal event or day doesn't derail you, as long as it's occasional. Persistence and consistency is key.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »worknprogress7 wrote: »I always seem to slack on the weekends. For some reason, Friday night rolls around and I am like, "Screw it, I need a beer and some tacos!" And then that attitude persists throughout the weekend and I wake up Monday morning feeling horrible and having regrets. So I start all over. It's a never ending cycle that I can't seem to get out of.
The all or nothing mentality is what results in "starting over"...you don't have to "start over"...you're never, ever, ever going to be 100% bang on all of the time and you have to lose that mentality of "oh *kitten*..gotta start over"...it's all a continuum.
I've been at all this stuff for going on 4 years...I'm always loser on the weekends and that never prevented me from dropping the weight I needed to drop and it hasn't prevented me from maintaining for nearly 3 years...enjoying myself on a Saturday is pretty irrelevant to the whole...and sometimes it's a Friday and a Saturday...and sometimes it's a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday...but really, it's all pretty irrelevant when I'm doing what I need to be doing most of the time. I've never "started over"...I've just continued on.
Great point! I need to get out of the mentality that 'oh I already screwed up once today, might as well eat that too." I read somewhere once that as long as you are good 80% of the time, you will be okay. Because nobody is perfect. So I am trying to look at it that way. So I go out to eat Saturday night with the girls and have a couple beers. SO WHAT?! I ate well and worked out all week long! I'm not ruining everything and I don't need to go ahead and eat crappy on Sunday either.
I'm trying!
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endlessfall16 wrote: »@Alyssa,
No one said about anyone's fault in my post
Something is difficult is difficult. (I don't know if that's correct English or not but sure does sound right)
Other than that thanks for your sage advice.
One thing I would never advocate is using herbs and spices to lose weight. Sage is a condiment.
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Weekends are very hard !0
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i wish my kids schools would serve alcohol...........
not to the kids of course. lolol0 -
endlessfall16 wrote: »I didn't think you were blaming your wife at all, but yeah...I feel you. I have to ask my husband that we only go out once or twice a week or I will overindulge because I have a hard time controlling myself. It's not his fault I LOVE food, and the small town we live in has a wealth of local fine dining establishments with amazing wines, beers, cheeses, and wowza foods...if we go out, I'll have a glass of wine. But I have a hard time with one glass. So I'll have two glasses. But before we go out, I'll say, "One or two glasses, then home for dinner!" Two glasses later, I'm hungry and it's going to be another hour before we're doing socializing with friends and get home and get to cooking and it's really just easier to order a cheese plate or a few appetizers and, hey, ANOTHER GLASS OF WINE WHOOOOOO!!!!
Then I'm over my calorie budget by 4 digits. Yikes.
It's not my husband's fault that I can't control myself when we go out. We both need to go out. We both need to socialize. We both need a night off of cooking and being home. But I can ask him nicely to help me by limiting how much we go out together so that I can limit how much I overindulge, and since he's wonderful, we only go out around once a week
If you were referring to my post, thank you. I'm feeling bad already for "hijacking" the OP I was simply relating with the op's situation about weekend binge eating and actually offering an advice about eating satiating foods to deal with it. Protein and fat make you feel full fast and limit the damage.
You are right. We all get into food/weight problem one way or another. No judgment. Futile to do so anyway.
I can only speak for my own situation. As couple sometimes it can get difficult. Interestingly I always think that it'd be much easier to deal with weight issue if I were single. Examples, I could play sport all day, eat or not eat without any consideration for family. But that's something I won't find out at this time. Cheers.
Oh yes, I eat very differently when I'm single and spend more time in the gym and otherwise channeling that sexual energy into exercise.
I have to work harder at creating a healthy lifestyle when I'm in a relationship but it's worth it 0 -
endlessfall16 wrote: »@Alyssa,
No one said about anyone's fault in my post
Something is difficult is difficult. (I don't know if that's correct English or not but sure does sound right)
Other than that thanks for your sage advice.
One thing I would never advocate is using herbs and spices to lose weight. Sage is a condiment.
I love this kind of humor I don't see it enough. Awesome.
Semi seriously, I'm also against making foods too tasty when I'm trying to lose lbs.0 -
I love food -- for me part of a sustainable weight loss and maintenance plan is making my food as delicious as possible (and of course also choosing a nutrient-rich, calorie-appropriate diet). If I thought I needed to eat bland food to lose or maintain, it would be lots harder. That I really love and enjoy most vegetables (if prepared properly) and many other low cal, healthful foods and dishes is part of what made losing so easy, and the reason I do is because I focused on making them tasty.0
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cwolfman13. I've "started over" seems like a million times. I wish I would have continued on 250,00 times ago. Excellent advise. Simple but profound.0
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endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »@Alyssa,
No one said about anyone's fault in my post
Something is difficult is difficult. (I don't know if that's correct English or not but sure does sound right)
Other than that thanks for your sage advice.
One thing I would never advocate is using herbs and spices to lose weight. Sage is a condiment.
I love this kind of humor I don't see it enough. Awesome.
Semi seriously, I'm also against making foods too tasty when I'm trying to lose lbs.
In all honesty, there's something to be said for quality over quantity. Learning to take your time, savoring the flavor, all while eating less, is a big part of the lifestyle change of losing weight and then moving into maintenance. Weight loss isn't about deprivation while you meet some goal and then going back to what you did before. It's about learning to be comfortable with new levels of calorie goals, which includes savoring flavors with smaller portions, understanding what foods are more satiating for longer periods of time, and how to make those changes sustainable for a lifetime.0 -
endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »@Alyssa,
No one said about anyone's fault in my post
Something is difficult is difficult. (I don't know if that's correct English or not but sure does sound right)
Other than that thanks for your sage advice.
One thing I would never advocate is using herbs and spices to lose weight. Sage is a condiment.
I love this kind of humor I don't see it enough. Awesome.
Semi seriously, I'm also against making foods too tasty when I'm trying to lose lbs.
In all honesty, there's something to be said for quality over quantity. Learning to take your time, savoring the flavor, all while eating less, is a big part of the lifestyle change of losing weight and then moving into maintenance. Weight loss isn't about deprivation while you meet some goal and then going back to what you did before. It's about learning to be comfortable with new levels of calorie goals, which includes savoring flavors with smaller portions, understanding what foods are more satiating for longer periods of time, and how to make those changes sustainable for a lifetime.
Agreed about the need for lifestyle changes, but the thing about deprivation and savoring is all personal and subjective.
We have multiple dishes that I enjoy (the way you describe) that consist of a gazillion ingredients and big size. It's virtually impossible to control. To use an example for you to understand when I have a burger it has to be a 1/2 lb ThickBurger, anything less feels depriving to me.
It's scientific that taste and eating habit is highly conditioning, eg. you salivate and tend to eat more when smelling a sizzling steak.
We all want to enjoy the greatest tasty, most satisfying foods and up to our capacity while getting least calories, but that's inherently a contradiction. Therefore, I need to pick one.
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endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »@Alyssa,
No one said about anyone's fault in my post
Something is difficult is difficult. (I don't know if that's correct English or not but sure does sound right)
Other than that thanks for your sage advice.
One thing I would never advocate is using herbs and spices to lose weight. Sage is a condiment.
I love this kind of humor I don't see it enough. Awesome.
Semi seriously, I'm also against making foods too tasty when I'm trying to lose lbs.
I can actually understand this, because it's a slippering slope. However, if my meal is tastier, it's more satisfying in the long run and I'm less likely to end up eating something else to feel satisfied. So what's important is figuring out what foods you're likely to overeat. Then make the stuff you're less likely to overeat on as tasty as possible - and plan for no leftovers.
For me, I don't really have issues with overeating on savory stuff, but the sweet stuff, forget it... so making very tasty entrees in reasonable portion sizes typically satisfies me enough that I don't feel the need to have sweet stuff after my meal.0 -
75poundgoal wrote: »So I had a very high calorie weekend because I had a lot of stuff going on and I didn't stay focused on eating right. The worst was Saturday night at a function for my daughters school where they served lots of food, dessert and booze. I overindulged to say the least. Today I feel sluggish and tired but I am going to make myself accountable and get back on track. I need to lose 5 lbs in order to break into the 230's which is a short term goal for me. I am going to do it over the next 2 weeks. I haven't been that light since I was in high school 20+ years ago. I am posting this so it will be out there and I will be accountable. No more weekend slacking!!!
Live and learn, bro. It sounds like you've figured out what to do already, so stick with your plan. You got this!0 -
endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »@Alyssa,
No one said about anyone's fault in my post
Something is difficult is difficult. (I don't know if that's correct English or not but sure does sound right)
Other than that thanks for your sage advice.
One thing I would never advocate is using herbs and spices to lose weight. Sage is a condiment.
I love this kind of humor I don't see it enough. Awesome.
Semi seriously, I'm also against making foods too tasty when I'm trying to lose lbs.
In all honesty, there's something to be said for quality over quantity. Learning to take your time, savoring the flavor, all while eating less, is a big part of the lifestyle change of losing weight and then moving into maintenance. Weight loss isn't about deprivation while you meet some goal and then going back to what you did before. It's about learning to be comfortable with new levels of calorie goals, which includes savoring flavors with smaller portions, understanding what foods are more satiating for longer periods of time, and how to make those changes sustainable for a lifetime.
Agreed about the need for lifestyle changes, but the thing about deprivation and savoring is all personal and subjective.
We have multiple dishes that I enjoy (the way you describe) that consist of a gazillion ingredients and big size. It's virtually impossible to control. To use an example for you to understand when I have a burger it has to be a 1/2 lb ThickBurger, anything less feels depriving to me.
It's scientific that taste and eating habit is highly conditioning, eg. you salivate and tend to eat more when smelling a sizzling steak.
You can use the recipe builder and a food scale to track dishes like that. It's not a big deal really, though it is a little extra work.
I don't see any reason not to eat a steak, or a juicy burger (we are grilling burgers tonight - I can't wait), or a bowl of homemade chili, or bacon-wrapped jalapeño peppers stuffed with goat cheese. You can eat them in moderation and fit them into your goals quite easily, if you're so inclined.
There's no reason to eat bland food just for the sake of losing weight. I agree with @mccindy72 100%.We all want to enjoy the greatest tasty, most satisfying foods and up to our capacity while getting least calories, but that's inherently a contradiction. Therefore, I need to pick one.
This obviously doesn't apply to everyone.0 -
worknprogress7 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »worknprogress7 wrote: »I always seem to slack on the weekends. For some reason, Friday night rolls around and I am like, "Screw it, I need a beer and some tacos!" And then that attitude persists throughout the weekend and I wake up Monday morning feeling horrible and having regrets. So I start all over. It's a never ending cycle that I can't seem to get out of.
The all or nothing mentality is what results in "starting over"...you don't have to "start over"...you're never, ever, ever going to be 100% bang on all of the time and you have to lose that mentality of "oh *kitten*..gotta start over"...it's all a continuum.
I've been at all this stuff for going on 4 years...I'm always loser on the weekends and that never prevented me from dropping the weight I needed to drop and it hasn't prevented me from maintaining for nearly 3 years...enjoying myself on a Saturday is pretty irrelevant to the whole...and sometimes it's a Friday and a Saturday...and sometimes it's a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday...but really, it's all pretty irrelevant when I'm doing what I need to be doing most of the time. I've never "started over"...I've just continued on.
Great point! I need to get out of the mentality that 'oh I already screwed up once today, might as well eat that too." I read somewhere once that as long as you are good 80% of the time, you will be okay. Because nobody is perfect. So I am trying to look at it that way. So I go out to eat Saturday night with the girls and have a couple beers. SO WHAT?! I ate well and worked out all week long! I'm not ruining everything and I don't need to go ahead and eat crappy on Sunday either.
I'm trying!
Everyone makes mistakes. EVERYONE. None of us have a 100% perfect track record of eating the right things in the right amounts all the time! There are days when you'll go over by accident, have unexpected dinners out with friends/family, or just don't care because you don't feel good. Then there are celebrations and holidays, which most people celebrate with food. One day isn't going to sabotage your progress or make you a failure. It just makes you human. One of the hardest things to do is learn to forgive yourself those mistakes. Log it, learn from it, and move on. Log it so you own it, learn from it so you know what happened to cause it and how to make better choices, and move on with your life. Start fresh next day/meal and continue on the way. Just because you trip and fall on your path doesn't mean you have to go back to the beginning and start again, just means you need to pick yourself up and keep going. And as a klutz, I can tell you I do that a lot! XD0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »@Alyssa,
No one said about anyone's fault in my post
Something is difficult is difficult. (I don't know if that's correct English or not but sure does sound right)
Other than that thanks for your sage advice.
One thing I would never advocate is using herbs and spices to lose weight. Sage is a condiment.
I love this kind of humor I don't see it enough. Awesome.
Semi seriously, I'm also against making foods too tasty when I'm trying to lose lbs.
In all honesty, there's something to be said for quality over quantity. Learning to take your time, savoring the flavor, all while eating less, is a big part of the lifestyle change of losing weight and then moving into maintenance. Weight loss isn't about deprivation while you meet some goal and then going back to what you did before. It's about learning to be comfortable with new levels of calorie goals, which includes savoring flavors with smaller portions, understanding what foods are more satiating for longer periods of time, and how to make those changes sustainable for a lifetime.
Agreed about the need for lifestyle changes, but the thing about deprivation and savoring is all personal and subjective.
We have multiple dishes that I enjoy (the way you describe) that consist of a gazillion ingredients and big size. It's virtually impossible to control. To use an example for you to understand when I have a burger it has to be a 1/2 lb ThickBurger, anything less feels depriving to me.
It's scientific that taste and eating habit is highly conditioning, eg. you salivate and tend to eat more when smelling a sizzling steak.
You can use the recipe builder and a food scale to track dishes like that. It's not a big deal really, though it is a little extra work.
I don't see any reason not to eat a steak, or a juicy burger (we are grilling burgers tonight - I can't wait), or a bowl of homemade chili, or bacon-wrapped jalapeño peppers stuffed with goat cheese. You can eat them in moderation and fit them into your goals quite easily, if you're so inclined.
There's no reason to eat bland food just for the sake of losing weight. I agree with @mccindy72 100%.We all want to enjoy the greatest tasty, most satisfying foods and up to our capacity while getting least calories, but that's inherently a contradiction. Therefore, I need to pick one.
This obviously doesn't apply to everyone.
I will see if the recipe builder can track a dish that calls for 10 lbs of beef bone used for broth, a dozen ox tail segments.
"This obviously doesn't apply to everyone"
No, but it applies to overwhelm majority. In another thread of mine, virtually everyone said they could easily eat over 1500 calories in one meal. There needs to be moderation which you even acknowledge. That's really a modification in our eating behavior.
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endlessfall16 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »@Alyssa,
No one said about anyone's fault in my post
Something is difficult is difficult. (I don't know if that's correct English or not but sure does sound right)
Other than that thanks for your sage advice.
One thing I would never advocate is using herbs and spices to lose weight. Sage is a condiment.
I love this kind of humor I don't see it enough. Awesome.
Semi seriously, I'm also against making foods too tasty when I'm trying to lose lbs.
In all honesty, there's something to be said for quality over quantity. Learning to take your time, savoring the flavor, all while eating less, is a big part of the lifestyle change of losing weight and then moving into maintenance. Weight loss isn't about deprivation while you meet some goal and then going back to what you did before. It's about learning to be comfortable with new levels of calorie goals, which includes savoring flavors with smaller portions, understanding what foods are more satiating for longer periods of time, and how to make those changes sustainable for a lifetime.
Agreed about the need for lifestyle changes, but the thing about deprivation and savoring is all personal and subjective.
We have multiple dishes that I enjoy (the way you describe) that consist of a gazillion ingredients and big size. It's virtually impossible to control. To use an example for you to understand when I have a burger it has to be a 1/2 lb ThickBurger, anything less feels depriving to me.
It's scientific that taste and eating habit is highly conditioning, eg. you salivate and tend to eat more when smelling a sizzling steak.
You can use the recipe builder and a food scale to track dishes like that. It's not a big deal really, though it is a little extra work.
I don't see any reason not to eat a steak, or a juicy burger (we are grilling burgers tonight - I can't wait), or a bowl of homemade chili, or bacon-wrapped jalapeño peppers stuffed with goat cheese. You can eat them in moderation and fit them into your goals quite easily, if you're so inclined.
There's no reason to eat bland food just for the sake of losing weight. I agree with @mccindy72 100%.We all want to enjoy the greatest tasty, most satisfying foods and up to our capacity while getting least calories, but that's inherently a contradiction. Therefore, I need to pick one.
This obviously doesn't apply to everyone.
I will see if the recipe builder can track a dish that calls for 10 lbs of beef bone used for broth, a dozen ox tail segments.
"This obviously doesn't apply to everyone"
No, but it applies to overwhelm majority. In another thread of mine, virtually everyone said they could easily eat over 1500 calories in one meal. There needs to be moderation which you even acknowledge. That's really a modification in our eating behavior.
Please point out where I dismissed moderation. You can eat a tasty meal, be full, and still stay within your calories. All it takes is a little planning.
I'm not advocating eating 1500 calories in one meal (unless you have the calories to spend and you want to do that - definitely nothing wrong with it).0 -
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endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »@Alyssa,
No one said about anyone's fault in my post
Something is difficult is difficult. (I don't know if that's correct English or not but sure does sound right)
Other than that thanks for your sage advice.
One thing I would never advocate is using herbs and spices to lose weight. Sage is a condiment.
I love this kind of humor I don't see it enough. Awesome.
Semi seriously, I'm also against making foods too tasty when I'm trying to lose lbs.
In all honesty, there's something to be said for quality over quantity. Learning to take your time, savoring the flavor, all while eating less, is a big part of the lifestyle change of losing weight and then moving into maintenance. Weight loss isn't about deprivation while you meet some goal and then going back to what you did before. It's about learning to be comfortable with new levels of calorie goals, which includes savoring flavors with smaller portions, understanding what foods are more satiating for longer periods of time, and how to make those changes sustainable for a lifetime.
Agreed about the need for lifestyle changes, but the thing about deprivation and savoring is all personal and subjective.
We have multiple dishes that I enjoy (the way you describe) that consist of a gazillion ingredients and big size. It's virtually impossible to control. To use an example for you to understand when I have a burger it has to be a 1/2 lb ThickBurger, anything less feels depriving to me.
It's scientific that taste and eating habit is highly conditioning, eg. you salivate and tend to eat more when smelling a sizzling steak.
We all want to enjoy the greatest tasty, most satisfying foods and up to our capacity while getting least calories, but that's inherently a contradiction. Therefore, I need to pick one.
It's also scientific that new conditioning can replace old conditioning . . . y'know, like building new habits and attitudes to replace old ones. (There truly are foods I used to find *wonderful* that taste pretty icky to me now, and a few I formerly disliked but now eat regularly and very happily.) And at no point in my life did "tasty" absolutely equal "high in calories"!
Oh, and: I haven't eaten a steak since 1974 (I'm vegetarian), so I don't much salivate when I smell one, even if it's sizzling.
People can change themselves. My theory: This is exactly what successful weight-losers do as they become healthy-weight-maintainers.0
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