I lose and gain 8+ lbs a day. Never consistent.

Hey community peeps. I have the hardest time nailing down an average body weight. It has to be water weight but I try to weigh in at the same time to give me an accurate reading. But it's never the same. Works fine for my girlfriend. 170.3 two days ago, 163.4 yesterday, and 171.2 today. It's like this all the time. Hard to track actual gains. I even need a weight to accurately get my BMI. Thoughts?

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  • lemonychild
    lemonychild Posts: 654 Member
    what are you eating that is giving you such shift in weight?
  • CollieFit
    CollieFit Posts: 1,683 Member
    Do you consume a lot of salt?
    My biggest fluctuation ever was 6lb but that's before TOTM which you shouldn't have any issues with. ;)
  • feleciale
    feleciale Posts: 1 Member
    CollieFit wrote: »
    Do you consume a lot of salt?
    My biggest fluctuation ever was 6lb but that's before TOTM which you shouldn't have any issues with. ;)
    What is totm?
  • Maxematics
    Maxematics Posts: 2,287 Member
    feleciale wrote: »
    CollieFit wrote: »
    Do you consume a lot of salt?
    My biggest fluctuation ever was 6lb but that's before TOTM which you shouldn't have any issues with. ;)
    What is totm?

    Time of the month.

    OP, in addition to the sodium question, are you weighing yourself at the same time every day?
  • SingingSingleTracker
    SingingSingleTracker Posts: 1,866 Member
    Hey community peeps. I have the hardest time nailing down an average body weight. It has to be water weight but I try to weigh in at the same time to give me an accurate reading. But it's never the same. Works fine for my girlfriend. 170.3 two days ago, 163.4 yesterday, and 171.2 today. It's like this all the time. Hard to track actual gains. I even need a weight to accurately get my BMI. Thoughts?

    An 8 pound sway?

    That sounds like something is off with your scale. Did you weigh yourself at the same time of day under the same conditions (say 7 am, after going to the toilet, before drinking coffee, naked - or whatever your regular morning routine is)?

    Hydration, water retention, DOMS, sodium intake, poop or no poop, can all easily cause 1, 2, 3, 4 pound sways for all of us on a daily basis. But 8 pounds for somebody that is 170ish pounds?

    Hmmmm.....something is not correct.

  • Seffell
    Seffell Posts: 2,244 Member
    Sounds like a scales issue to me more than anything else.
  • leanne0627
    leanne0627 Posts: 109 Member
    I have big fluctuations too which really does make it hard to see changes. I find mine is from when I eat more or less carbs so water weight. Do you keep your carbs around the same amount everyday? Or do they change? Also sodium. One thing that seems to help me is when I drink a lot of water. Try using trendweight or a similar program too as that will give you a average to work from.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    Are you weighing in the mornings when you first get out of bed.
  • loulamb7
    loulamb7 Posts: 801 Member
    A lot of good point above, except for TOM since you are male. Critical to trending is
    1. weighting 1st thing in the morning after using the bathroom
    2. using a trending app like Libra
    3. making sure your scale is on a solid, level floor, not a carpet. and that you are not constantly moving the scale
  • faidwen
    faidwen Posts: 131 Member
    SALT SALT SALT :)

    I have the exact same issues depending on how much sodium I consumed the day before. If I limit my salt intake to < 1500 mg each day, I am then VERY VERY consistent.

    10 lbs between days, and it lingers for a couple days until the water weight is dropped. Nothing to worry about, just watch out after high sodium days :)
  • boxfish100
    boxfish100 Posts: 172 Member
    I weigh 148 and my weight can vary by 6lb or more easily within the same day, for all of the reasons listed above. An 8lb variation for a 170lb man doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility; the pointers about keeping the scale on a level floor are good ones too.
  • ninjaosborne
    ninjaosborne Posts: 5 Member
    Great responses everyone. I try to be consistent with time of day weigh ins. I'm betting it's salt intake variations from day to day. The scale seems to work and is consistent for my GF. Here is my plan: 1) same meals for five days 2) tape on the floor to ensure scale is in the same place 3) weigh in first thing in the AM after I pee. If all else fails, off to buy a new scale.

  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    Great responses everyone. I try to be consistent with time of day weigh ins. I'm betting it's salt intake variations from day to day. The scale seems to work and is consistent for my GF. Here is my plan: 1) same meals for five days 2) tape on the floor to ensure scale is in the same place 3) weigh in first thing in the AM after I pee. If all else fails, off to buy a new scale.

    Try a new battery in the scale too.
  • xtina315
    xtina315 Posts: 218 Member
    I always have a 5-6 lb fluctuation during the day. Most accurate for me is when I get up, urinate, undress then weigh myself.
  • sallygroundhog
    sallygroundhog Posts: 133 Member
    I don't know if this would be a factor for you, but if I lean a bit forward with my weight more on my toes, the scale reads lower than if I put my weight more in my heels. I try to stand with my weight evenly distributed over my feet.
  • Morglez
    Morglez Posts: 46 Member
    I don't know if this has anything to do with your issue, but I surprisingly found how clothes can affect the numbers on my scale. I normally weigh naked, and one day I wasn't thinking about it and weighed with a pair of shorts and a t-shirt. Realized it, and took them off and there was a 1 lb difference. I was quite surprised that my cloths could add a whole pound to my number, lol.
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,463 Member
    If the scale is consistent for gf but not you, I don't think it would be the scales.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,216 Member
    If the whole point is figuring your BMI, I wouldn't worry too much about it. BMI is kind of a blunt instrument, potentially useful as a screener for typical segments of the population, but whether 163 is better than 171 is probably more a function of your body composition and configuration than anything else - the guideline BMI ranges are huge for a reason.

    Are you maybe around 5'8" or 5'9", such that 163 is in the "normal" range, and 171 shows up as "overweight", perhaps? You could just take your daily weights (first thing in the morning, etc.) and average them, even.

    To me, it doesn't seem like a big deal for BMR or TDEE, either. It'll vary depending on which calculator you use, but the calc I use gives a difference of around 50 calories a day in BMR for a 40 year-old-male at 163 vs. 171. Your estimation/measurement error for exercise and eating is probably greater than that, even if you're pretty meticulous in your tracking.

    If the concern is a more general one about seeing progress through the fluctuations, then +1 to a weight-trending app like Libra, Happy Scale, Trendweight, etc. (though these can also be confusing occasionally, especially if you have limited statistics knowledge).

    Of course, if you have a family history of hypertension, or are pre-hypertensive yourself, you'll want to work on that salt thing, if that's at the root of it.

    Just my opinions, of course. Good luck, whatever your course!
  • Colorscheme
    Colorscheme Posts: 1,179 Member
    faidwen wrote: »
    SALT SALT SALT :)

    I have the exact same issues depending on how much sodium I consumed the day before. If I limit my salt intake to < 1500 mg each day, I am then VERY VERY consistent.

    10 lbs between days, and it lingers for a couple days until the water weight is dropped. Nothing to worry about, just watch out after high sodium days :)

    I've notice a lot of people on the site in general eat quite a bit of salt. I get that salt, sugar and fat are addicting and everyone's entitled to each whatever way they want so I'm not really judging, I'm more surprised that people can eat 3k milligrams of sodium a day and be fine with that. Then again, I have high blood pressure so I limit my salt to around your intake.
  • MynameisChester
    MynameisChester Posts: 107 Member
    How often do you weigh yourself? What's your carb and salt intake like? Do you weight yourself under the same exact conditions (ie, first thing in the morning wearing the exact same clothes AND after pooping AND peeing)? All these variables influence the numbers on the scale.
  • ninjaosborne
    ninjaosborne Posts: 5 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    If the whole point is figuring your BMI, I wouldn't worry too much about it. BMI is kind of a blunt instrument, potentially useful as a screener for typical segments of the population, but whether 163 is better than 171 is probably more a function of your body composition and configuration than anything else - the guideline BMI ranges are huge for a reason.

    Are you maybe around 5'8" or 5'9", such that 163 is in the "normal" range, and 171 shows up as "overweight", perhaps? You could just take your daily weights (first thing in the morning, etc.) and average them, even.

    To me, it doesn't seem like a big deal for BMR or TDEE, either. It'll vary depending on which calculator you use, but the calc I use gives a difference of around 50 calories a day in BMR for a 40 year-old-male at 163 vs. 171. Your estimation/measurement error for exercise and eating is probably greater than that, even if you're pretty meticulous in your tracking.

    Response:
    Thanks for the great reply. I'm looking for a way to track results other than just judging myself in the mirror. Some type of tracking is helpful when tweaking what is working/ not working. So it sounds like I need to steer clear of BMI as it does tell me I'm over weight or normal depending upon the day. (I weigh in naked btw for all those asking). I went out and picked up a hand held body fat scale. Thought maybe that is a better judge on muscle vs fat than just looking at a scale and hoping my weight decrease.

    I stick to a solid weekly menu and have really only been focused on carb count, caloric intake, and time of day I have certain foods. I do track my exercises and am following specified calories to keep fueled. Your thoughts on making errors on exercises vs calories based on weight is a good argument.

    For the salt questions out there, one thing I have not considered or ever thought about was sodium. I will go back and see if it fluctuates enough to warrant the huge shifts. Maybe I just have night sweats or sweat more some workouts than others. It's is a strange mystery but glad for the support. Thanks to all who are contributing.

  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    edited March 2016
    Are you working out heavily?

    Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) can mean a change in glycogen & water storage after a heavy workout.

    My weight has jumped as much as 6 lbs after a long run.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,216 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    If the whole point is figuring your BMI, I wouldn't worry too much about it. BMI is kind of a blunt instrument, potentially useful as a screener for typical segments of the population, but whether 163 is better than 171 is probably more a function of your body composition and configuration than anything else - the guideline BMI ranges are huge for a reason.

    Are you maybe around 5'8" or 5'9", such that 163 is in the "normal" range, and 171 shows up as "overweight", perhaps? You could just take your daily weights (first thing in the morning, etc.) and average them, even.

    To me, it doesn't seem like a big deal for BMR or TDEE, either. It'll vary depending on which calculator you use, but the calc I use gives a difference of around 50 calories a day in BMR for a 40 year-old-male at 163 vs. 171. Your estimation/measurement error for exercise and eating is probably greater than that, even if you're pretty meticulous in your tracking.

    Response:
    Thanks for the great reply. I'm looking for a way to track results other than just judging myself in the mirror. Some type of tracking is helpful when tweaking what is working/ not working. So it sounds like I need to steer clear of BMI as it does tell me I'm over weight or normal depending upon the day. (I weigh in naked btw for all those asking). I went out and picked up a hand held body fat scale. Thought maybe that is a better judge on muscle vs fat than just looking at a scale and hoping my weight decrease.

    I stick to a solid weekly menu and have really only been focused on carb count, caloric intake, and time of day I have certain foods. I do track my exercises and am following specified calories to keep fueled. Your thoughts on making errors on exercises vs calories based on weight is a good argument.

    For the salt questions out there, one thing I have not considered or ever thought about was sodium. I will go back and see if it fluctuates enough to warrant the huge shifts. Maybe I just have night sweats or sweat more some workouts than others. It's is a strange mystery but glad for the support. Thanks to all who are contributing.


    You might want to add periodic tape measurements (at multiple spots) and photographs - maybe monthly or so - to your toolkit of tracking mechanisms, too, if you haven't already. Why not? Not time consuming or difficult.

    Good luck!
  • SingingSingleTracker
    SingingSingleTracker Posts: 1,866 Member
    edited March 2016
    Not to mention, if one does a big workout (such as cardio for 2-3 hours) in heat, you can lose a lot of water weight. For the OP to drop 8 pounds, it has happened to me before to lose that much water weight on a bike ride in the heat if I don't get my hydration/supplement nutrition right. For that reason, I weigh before the ride, and after to make sure I have hydrated and taken the correct amount of SaltStick Caps or Endurolytes.

    Here's the chart on water weight loss during exercise - including symptoms.

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    I've been as low as 5% weight loss from a ride before, and believe me it is not a fun experience. I'm usually able to keep the worst-case scenario for me now at 1%-2% with the supplement caps and beverage.
  • peacemongernc
    peacemongernc Posts: 253 Member
    edited March 2016
    My weight is like that. It is typical for me to fluctuate 3 to 8 pounds every few days. I'm 5' 6", around 185, and 47 years old. My weight has been fluctuating like this ever since I started tracking it when I weighed 305 pounds 4 years ago. It is really hard to figure out when I'm losing and when I'm gaining or if I'm stuck in the middle. As a matter of fact, just yesterday I decreased my daily calorie goal because I THINK I'm maintaining, but it is so hard to know! I've lost about 10 pounds over the last 4 weeks, but I had gained that whole 10 pounds in just a few days, so I know it wasn't either fat or muscle weight to begin with. I had hoped when my weight dropped again, it would go lower so I could see how much I had ACTUALLY lost, but it didn't... hence my guess that I'm maintaining.

    Anyway, I have figured out that salt makes not one iota difference to my weight fluctuations. This really surprised me because I had always assumed it did. My mom is really salt sensitive, and I just sort of assumed everyone was. I figured out that for me, it added sugars and processed grains... mostly the added sugars. I can fluctuate about 10 pounds in a couple of days depending on how much of that I'm eating. Soy also seems to be a big trigger for me, I think, but it is harder to sort that out... so many foods with added sugars also have soy, so I'm not sure I have that right.

    How I have dealt with this crazy fluctuation is with careful tracking. I log my food, very carefully, every single day, and I weigh and log my weight, every single day. I figured out my maintenance calories over a 6 month period of careful tracking, and use that as my guide. I figure out what I SHOULD weigh, based on my calorie intake, and then eventually, my weight will dip down to that #. When it goes back up, if I haven't eaten enough to warrant a weight increase, I assume that increase is inflammation/stool/water/mystery something.

    When I look at my progress chart over a couple or 3 months, I assume that the low points are probably my "actual" weight, and I look to see if those low points and increasing or decreasing in pounds. I use the low number to determine BMI.

    This may be the absolute wrong way to handle the situation, but it is the best I've come up with. I try to regulate my diet to minimize fluctuations, but smallest fluctuations I seem to be able to get are about a 3 to 4 pound range within a week. When I weigh the same thing 3 days in a row I get pretty excited. :) LOL!

  • gophermatt
    gophermatt Posts: 129 Member
    Seeing the same thing and thought of salt. I also just began working out quite a bit more heavily lately. I'm 220/225 or so, just today I was 224 first in the AM, them after workout / sauna was at 220. Weighed this evening just for grins and I'm now just shy of 226. Could DOMS contribute like that?
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,216 Member
    gophermatt wrote: »
    Seeing the same thing and thought of salt. I also just began working out quite a bit more heavily lately. I'm 220/225 or so, just today I was 224 first in the AM, them after workout / sauna was at 220. Weighed this evening just for grins and I'm now just shy of 226. Could DOMS contribute like that?

    When you multiple times a day like that, it's likely that the biggest contributors of difference are (1) clothes if you're wearing any, (2) weight of food still somewhere in your digestive tract from your last "n" meals ("n" varies by person and meal frequency, but it's likely to be several), and (3) weight of water you've drunk but that is still en route to urination. (Or, if it's hot and you sweat a bunch (really a lot), you could lose water that way, too.)

    If you drink 2 measuring cups worth of water (well, actually, around 1.92 cups), that's a pound right there.

    IMO, there's really no sensible way to figure out the exact reason for weight changes throughout the course of just one day . . . and no reason to do so. You're *bound* to weigh different amounts after eating and drinking different amounts, after sweating or not, after exercising or not, and more.

    If it's fun to weigh yourself lots of times a day, and doesn't stress you, go for it. Otherwise, don't.

    Once a day is about the most frequent that you can hope to make any sense of (preferably on awakening, after urinating/eliminating if that's gonna happen, before eating/drinking, stark naked, so you have true comparables).

    If daily stresses you - because that's where you'll still see things like salt, DOMS, etc. play a role that you might be able to make sense of, i.e., you'll fluctuate for lots of reasons other than fat/gain loss - then don't weigh daily. Maybe weekly is good.

    Don't over-think it, and try to find a routine that informs you, without adding to stress levels!