Every exercise program "works"

ninerbuff
ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
edited March 2016 in Fitness and Exercise
If you've been in fitness a long enough time, you've seen tons of advertising, commercials and infomercials on "this is the best workout to burn fat!" or "look at the results from people doing this program!".
So not to burst anyone's bubble, but the truth is these "magic" programs aren't original. The exercises that many of they claim are "the best" are exercises and techniques have been around for decades. All they've done is packaged them in a DVD set to sell them to people who end up believing THIS is what they need to lose weight.
But no matter what the program is, it's still going to come down to creating a calorie deficit to lose. And that's exactly what all of the testimonials on any program HAD to do to lose weight.

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  • giantrobot_powerlifting
    giantrobot_powerlifting Posts: 2,598 Member
    Agreed.
  • Jruzer
    Jruzer Posts: 3,501 Member
    Nevertheless, we'll still have poster after poster asking if this or that program "works" for weight loss or for increased fitness.

    This would be a good post to direct them toward.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    Yes. It's important to let people know to pick a program "they" can stick with and not always one that is hyped up by testimonials.

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  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    BS, my diet hasn't changed a lick and I'm leaner than ever. Thanks Shakeweight!!
  • giantrobot_powerlifting
    giantrobot_powerlifting Posts: 2,598 Member
    You gotta admit, but "Prancersize" was one heckuva novel fitness approach.
  • lizlemon4
    lizlemon4 Posts: 36 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    BS, my diet hasn't changed a lick and I'm leaner than ever. Thanks Shakeweight!!

    Lmao!!!
  • ginalove1960
    ginalove1960 Posts: 60 Member
    I'm a 56 year old, formerly obese female with a long history of unsuccessful dieting. Today I eat whatever I want, whenever I want, however much I want. All I do is keep track of every calorie I put in my mouth, and make sure I've burned off all excess calories by the end of the day, through exercise. And it doesn't take much: taking the stairs, doing 50 burpee's a day, practicing piano, at a slow pace, for 1- 2 hours a day, doing yoga mudra's for aproximately one half hour a day, (supposed to keep you fit and healthy).
    I hate exercise, and I'm definitely a minimalist there.
    Today, my weight, blood sugar, blood pressure, cholesterol and all my lipids are way down and within normal limits.
    I've lost a little over 50 lbs. And am keeping it off. I credit switching from diet pop to water. Nothing but water and black coffee. No sweeteners.
    I keep track of calories and I believe in burpees. Lots of them. I do them throughout the day. 10 here. 10 there. I'm an older woman and I can't do pushups. Not even one. I can't even do the female pushups. My arms aren't strong enough. So, I leave those out. The original burpees didn't include pushups anyway.
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  • erimethia_fekre
    erimethia_fekre Posts: 317 Member
    I had someone ask me if running or DVDs were better for weight loss and exercise... I asked them which they enjoyed doing more and they said neither, so I answered neither.

    If you're not happy with the activity, you won't stick with it.
  • jdhcm2006
    jdhcm2006 Posts: 2,254 Member
    lmaharidge wrote: »
    I had someone ask me if running or DVDs were better for weight loss and exercise... I asked them which they enjoyed doing more and they said neither, so I answered neither.

    If you're not happy with the activity, you won't stick with it.

    This. Even when I wasn't paying attention to my calories, I still poled because I love it. I gained weight even though I was working out bc I was eating more then I was burning.

    Now the weight is coming back off bc I'm actually making sure that I'm in a deficit.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    You gotta admit, but "Prancersize" was one heckuva novel fitness approach.
    Is she still alive?

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  • sventheviking
    sventheviking Posts: 45 Member
    The best program is the one you're not doing
  • giantrobot_powerlifting
    giantrobot_powerlifting Posts: 2,598 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    You gotta admit, but "Prancersize" was one heckuva novel fitness approach.
    Is she still alive?

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    A quick Google reveals that she is alive and galloping.
  • pernajack
    pernajack Posts: 7 Member
    Depends on what your level of fitness is. If you're coming from totally sedentary literally anything will work.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    After years, I still look for exercises I haven't heard of. Board presses were a new one for me. Also, dead press. But, essentially, they are a play off the original exercise.

    I seek out new original programming when I get a bit tired of my current routine. I am now doing a DUP program with some heavy cardio on alternate days. The results are impressive so far. But, lol, I've also lowered my TDEE a bit. That's my problem. I always add too many variables, so I never really know which thing did the trick. Lol

    Different exercises are totally different than a program. IMHO.

    Variations are just that- variations.
  • buff_babe
    buff_babe Posts: 2 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    If you've been in fitness a long enough time, you've seen tons of advertising, commercials and infomercials on "this is the best workout to burn fat!" or "look at the results from people doing this program!".
    So not to burst anyone's bubble, but the truth is these "magic" programs aren't original. The exercises that many of they claim are "the best" are exercises and techniques have been around for decades. All they've done is packaged them in a DVD set to sell them to people who end up believing THIS is what they need to lose weight.
    But no matter what the program is, it's still going to come down to creating a calorie deficit to lose. And that's exactly what all of the testimonials on any program HAD to do to lose weight.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    Yes, every program "works" and there's no magic pill but a lot of people buy into them because it forces them to get off their duff and exercise. Things like P90X and Insanity are structured and you're told what to do each day and there's a lot of people out there that need something like that to get going and to stick with it.
  • robininfl
    robininfl Posts: 1,137 Member
    After my 4th baby I was about 150lb (at 5'9") and oldest daughter was doing diving practice at a suburban pool, there was jazzercise nearby. I remembered doing it in college, and love dancing around, and it was cheap and had babysitting so I did that while she trained.

    No other exercise, just the jazzercise. My body went back down to the 125lb it had been before kids, and I got good aerobic fitness, not much strength, but I really didn't change anything else just had fun dancing. I was confused because I thought I'd lost about 5lbs, but my clothes didn't fit. But when I figured out I'd actually lost closer to 25lb it made sense. Really did not notice the change happening, didn't pay attention to eating, nothing changed except I got that daily light workout.

    My mom does nothing but walk for exercise. She's 75 and has never been fat, just walks because that's what she likes. She doesn't like "exercising".

    I know 2 people who lost more than 100lb each doing yoga. No "cardio", no "strength training" just yoga because they liked it.

    I very firmly believe that any sort of exercise done regularly (like daily) for more than a half hour will get you results, fitness and if you need it, weight loss. Healthy weight gain in my experience can take more specific effort.

  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    lmaharidge wrote: »
    I had someone ask me if running or DVDs were better for weight loss and exercise... I asked them which they enjoyed doing more and they said neither, so I answered neither.

    If you're not happy with the activity, you won't stick with it.

    True enough. However, some things you need to do for a while before you enjoy doing them.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    buff_babe wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    If you've been in fitness a long enough time, you've seen tons of advertising, commercials and infomercials on "this is the best workout to burn fat!" or "look at the results from people doing this program!".
    So not to burst anyone's bubble, but the truth is these "magic" programs aren't original. The exercises that many of they claim are "the best" are exercises and techniques have been around for decades. All they've done is packaged them in a DVD set to sell them to people who end up believing THIS is what they need to lose weight.
    But no matter what the program is, it's still going to come down to creating a calorie deficit to lose. And that's exactly what all of the testimonials on any program HAD to do to lose weight.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
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    Yes, every program "works" and there's no magic pill but a lot of people buy into them because it forces them to get off their duff and exercise. Things like P90X and Insanity are structured and you're told what to do each day and there's a lot of people out there that need something like that to get going and to stick with it.
    There are lots of "structured" free programs out there on youtube, fitness blender, etc.
    Advertising is what makes Beachbody popular (though I'm not disparaging against their actual workout programs) and for people willing to spend a couple of hundred dollars.
    Nobody can FORCE anyone to do anything. People are buying because of marketing, not because it's really that much better than other workout programs.

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  • sanjdee3
    sanjdee3 Posts: 4 Member
    I love fitness blender. Im not a big beachbody marketing fan. they push too much crap on you for a high price. BUT I will say I like Shaun T cause he's fun there's something endearing about his way of "instructing".
    I agree, if you do something everyday then it all balances out. It's nice to see and follow people's successful journeys. I've been trying to lose 15 lbs for over a year, and I'm very fit, but flabby from the booze and enjoying dining out too much. Trying to find my discipline
  • jennk5309
    jennk5309 Posts: 206 Member
    In my opinion, the best workout EVER is........drumroll please....the one you'll actually do consistently! Tada! I like to mix it up though so as to not get bored. Gym machines (elliptical, bikes, resistance stuff), home workout videos, walks. As long as I'm moving, my body gets fitter and healthier it seems.
  • Michael190lbs
    Michael190lbs Posts: 1,510 Member
    As a trainer you have to admit your personality and skills keep people coming back to you and a DVD or program might do that for someone else. I agree a deficit is what truly matters but people who workout are more than likely going to think twice about what they put in their mouth if their on a program they like.
  • lezerlies
    lezerlies Posts: 39 Member
    edited March 2016
    buff_babe wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    If you've been in fitness a long enough time, you've seen tons of advertising, commercials and infomercials on "this is the best workout to burn fat!" or "look at the results from people doing this program!".
    So not to burst anyone's bubble, but the truth is these "magic" programs aren't original. The exercises that many of they claim are "the best" are exercises and techniques have been around for decades. All they've done is packaged them in a DVD set to sell them to people who end up believing THIS is what they need to lose weight.
    But no matter what the program is, it's still going to come down to creating a calorie deficit to lose. And that's exactly what all of the testimonials on any program HAD to do to lose weight.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    Yes, every program "works" and there's no magic pill but a lot of people buy into them because it forces them to get off their duff and exercise. Things like P90X and Insanity are structured and you're told what to do each day and there's a lot of people out there that need something like that to get going and to stick with it.

    THIS. I was never into fitness before I did P90x and then Insanity. Those programs led to running, which I still do along with working with a personal trainer. I plan on doing another program if I start to get bored with what I'm currently doing. For someone who has never been athletic, hates the gym and (used to think) exercise is a form of torture, a lot of these programs are a great place to start. You know exactly what to do and when to do it, so long as you keep pressing play. Also, many times you have to keep doing something before you start to enjoy it. You might hate it at first, but when you're looking at a calendar, knowing you've got to complete a certain number of workouts and don't want to have wasted the money you've paid for them, you're more likely to do it long enough to actually start enjoying it. Slam them all you want, they've improved millions of people's lives.

    To each their own.
  • caurinus
    caurinus Posts: 78 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    BS, my diet hasn't changed a lick and I'm leaner than ever. Thanks Shakeweight!!

    Have you tried the Tug Toner?
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    As a trainer you have to admit your personality and skills keep people coming back to you and a DVD or program might do that for someone else. I agree a deficit is what truly matters but people who workout are more than likely going to think twice about what they put in their mouth if their on a program they like.
    I don't disagree here. My OP is basically about NOT having to pick a program that's just POPULAR because it may end up being a program that someone doesn't like and just because is advertised so much on TV and social media. Some of the best results I've heard and seen from are from programs that get no advertisement at all.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    lezerlies wrote: »
    buff_babe wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    If you've been in fitness a long enough time, you've seen tons of advertising, commercials and infomercials on "this is the best workout to burn fat!" or "look at the results from people doing this program!".
    So not to burst anyone's bubble, but the truth is these "magic" programs aren't original. The exercises that many of they claim are "the best" are exercises and techniques have been around for decades. All they've done is packaged them in a DVD set to sell them to people who end up believing THIS is what they need to lose weight.
    But no matter what the program is, it's still going to come down to creating a calorie deficit to lose. And that's exactly what all of the testimonials on any program HAD to do to lose weight.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    Yes, every program "works" and there's no magic pill but a lot of people buy into them because it forces them to get off their duff and exercise. Things like P90X and Insanity are structured and you're told what to do each day and there's a lot of people out there that need something like that to get going and to stick with it.

    THIS. I was never into fitness before I did P90x and then Insanity. Those programs led to running, which I still do along with working with a personal trainer. I plan on doing another program if I start to get bored with what I'm currently doing. For someone who has never been athletic, hates the gym and (used to think) exercise is a form of torture, a lot of these programs are a great place to start. You know exactly what to do and when to do it, so long as you keep pressing play. Also, many times you have to keep doing something before you start to enjoy it. You might hate it at first, but when you're looking at a calendar, knowing you've got to complete a certain number of workouts and don't want to have wasted the money you've paid for them, you're more likely to do it long enough to actually start enjoying it. Slam them all you want, they've improved millions of people's lives.

    To each their own.
    Lol, where am I "slamming" them? My original OP was basically stating that they aren't ORIGINAL, just in "new" in how they are redistributed amongst the generations.
    Also for all the millions they may have improved, there are 100's of millions who wasted their money on them. Lots of them only pressed play 10 times or less. Only about 10% of people who try a program or diet end up successful on it because it's really NOT for them.
    Again, the point mostly being is people don't have to feel they need to do something like Jillian's 30 day shred, Insanity, etc. and pay an exorbitant amount of money for programs which aren't "original" and "needed" if they are trying to add exercise to their lifestyle.

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  • AmazonMayan
    AmazonMayan Posts: 1,168 Member
    edited March 2016
    Hornsby wrote: »
    BS, my diet hasn't changed a lick and I'm leaner than ever. Thanks Shakeweight!!

    :D I saw one of those in a thrift store a few weeks ago. I busted out laughing because of my daughters reactions when I told them how it "works". They also had some ab torture contraptions oh and a thighmaster! Someone cleaned out their attic LOL.

    I stuck with my used tennis racket for $3. Darn I keep forgetting about that! We have a park nearby that has courts. I suck at it and am better suited to hitting a ball with a bat (so you can imagine how my tennis game looks) but hey it's exercise.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    bump
  • singletrackmtbr
    singletrackmtbr Posts: 644 Member

    Hornsby wrote: »
    BS, my diet hasn't changed a lick and I'm leaner than ever. Thanks Shakeweight!!

    You, sir, have won the Internet!

  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,976 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    BS, my diet hasn't changed a lick and I'm leaner than ever. Thanks Shakeweight!!

    You, sir, have won the Internet!
    Lol, they're on sale right now at Sports Authority since it's closing.


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