Artificial Sweeteners - How much am I really having?
JHALLISGETTINGsmall
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I drink coffee with splenda every day
I have like light yogurt, peaches with splenda, sugar free jelly - with lunch
I drink water all day at work with those no calorie flavorings - like grape sugar free
Sometimes I have sugar free syrup with waffles or even a sugar free snow cone.
Then I typically will have a diet coke with dinner and even a low cal fudge pop after that.
I mean how much artificial sweetener should I have?
I have like light yogurt, peaches with splenda, sugar free jelly - with lunch
I drink water all day at work with those no calorie flavorings - like grape sugar free
Sometimes I have sugar free syrup with waffles or even a sugar free snow cone.
Then I typically will have a diet coke with dinner and even a low cal fudge pop after that.
I mean how much artificial sweetener should I have?
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There are a lot of different opinions on artificial sweeteners.
I personally avoid all of them.
I don't like the aftertaste, they bloat me and make me crave more sugar.
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JHALLISGETTINGsmall wrote: »I drink coffee with splenda every day
I have like light yogurt, peaches with splenda, sugar free jelly - with lunch
I drink water all day at work with those no calorie flavorings - like grape sugar free
Sometimes I have sugar free syrup with waffles or even a sugar free snow cone.
Then I typically will have a diet coke with dinner and even a low cal fudge pop after that.
I mean how much artificial sweetener should I have?
As much as you'd like?
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JHALLISGETTINGsmall wrote: »I drink coffee with splenda every day
I have like light yogurt, peaches with splenda, sugar free jelly - with lunch
I drink water all day at work with those no calorie flavorings - like grape sugar free
Sometimes I have sugar free syrup with waffles or even a sugar free snow cone.
Then I typically will have a diet coke with dinner and even a low cal fudge pop after that.
I mean how much artificial sweetener should I have?
As much as you'd like?
This^^^
There is no real evidence out there to show negative affects from normal daily consumption such as yours. If it's working for you, just keep doing what you're doing.0 -
I love plain old water.
Love saving money.
And if I drink one, the next day I get cravings for sugar for some reason. Strange.0 -
NaturalNancy wrote: »There are a lot of different opinions on artificial sweeteners.
I personally avoid all of them.
I don't like the aftertaste, they bloat me and make me crave more sugar.
Yep.0 -
I used to use a lot of artificial sweeteners but then out of the blue they started making me nauseous and giving me terrible headaches so now I avoid them!0
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There are many widely varying opinions on artificial sweeteners - from them being completely harmless (doubt it) to the most detrimental thing you can eat (also doubt it). I am of the opinion that artificial sweeteners probably aren't good for you, but neither is diabetes. If you absolutely cannot get your sweet tooth under control, better this than pounds of sugar (again, my opinion).
HOWEVER, I'm also of the opinion that artificial sweeteners are highly addictive and require a detox. For example, I read in a book once about a Naturopathic Doctor who was treating a patient who was so addicted to artificial sweeteners, her body wouldn't accept water to satiate thirst. No matter how much water she drank, her body would throw out thirst signals until she drank something sweet. I had that exact same issue. I had to stop the Crystal Light, Mio, pop, etc and drink only water for a whole week before I got it under control. Now I have a diet pop most nights, but that is after I've spent the day drinking only water, black coffee, or occasionally tea with real honey.
No more "sugar free" anything (except the pop) and now I find I can control my sweet tooth much more.
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I have splenda and artificial sweeteners everyday and for many years. Lots of scaremongering out there.
read this
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
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I am betting you are consuming a variety of artificial sweeteners. Aspartame goes well with drinks, Splenda is another, and check the packaging on your light yogurt, jello, and evening ice cream.0
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Yup, drink artificial sweeteners daily, no issues. And no, I don't really crave sugar, either, if anything I like sugary drinks much less because now they taste too sweet for me. I don't like the aftertaste of aspartame much (although I tolerate it) so I make my own soda mix with acesulfame potassium and sucralose.
They are some of the most widely studied chemicals on the planet. There's far more evidence for their safety than for most of the natural ingredients in our food supplies.0 -
Been drinking diet pop since since the 70's.....started with Tab in the 70's . I am fine.0
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HorrorGeekLiz wrote: »There are many widely varying opinions on artificial sweeteners - from them being completely harmless (doubt it) to the most detrimental thing you can eat (also doubt it). I am of the opinion that artificial sweeteners probably aren't good for you, but neither is diabetes. If you absolutely cannot get your sweet tooth under control, better this than pounds of sugar (again, my opinion).
HOWEVER, I'm also of the opinion that artificial sweeteners are highly addictive and require a detox. For example, I read in a book once about a Naturopathic Doctor who was treating a patient who was so addicted to artificial sweeteners, her body wouldn't accept water to satiate thirst. No matter how much water she drank, her body would throw out thirst signals until she drank something sweet. I had that exact same issue. I had to stop the Crystal Light, Mio, pop, etc and drink only water for a whole week before I got it under control. Now I have a diet pop most nights, but that is after I've spent the day drinking only water, black coffee, or occasionally tea with real honey.
No more "sugar free" anything (except the pop) and now I find I can control my sweet tooth much more.
Fortunately, opinions and books by naturopaths don't mean crap, the facts do.
http://seriecientifica.org/sites/default/files/scl_enc_butchko.pdf
Those artificial sweeteners have been researched to hell and back, more than any other thing that gets put into your food.0 -
HorrorGeekLiz wrote: »There are many widely varying opinions on artificial sweeteners - from them being completely harmless (doubt it) to the most detrimental thing you can eat (also doubt it). I am of the opinion that artificial sweeteners probably aren't good for you, but neither is diabetes. If you absolutely cannot get your sweet tooth under control, better this than pounds of sugar (again, my opinion).
HOWEVER, I'm also of the opinion that artificial sweeteners are highly addictive and require a detox. For example, I read in a book once about a Naturopathic Doctor who was treating a patient who was so addicted to artificial sweeteners, her body wouldn't accept water to satiate thirst. No matter how much water she drank, her body would throw out thirst signals until she drank something sweet. I had that exact same issue. I had to stop the Crystal Light, Mio, pop, etc and drink only water for a whole week before I got it under control. Now I have a diet pop most nights, but that is after I've spent the day drinking only water, black coffee, or occasionally tea with real honey.
No more "sugar free" anything (except the pop) and now I find I can control my sweet tooth much more.
You were doing so well until this statement. No. Detox is nonsense.0 -
And in case the recently released study saying they cause cancer is causing you concern, here is an article that explains why it was a bad study.
http://www.foodinsight.org/splenda-sucralose-ramazzini-soffritti-safety-cancer-study0 -
mamaChristine wrote: »And in case the recently released study saying they cause cancer is causing you concern, here is an article that explains why it was a bad study.
http://www.foodinsight.org/splenda-sucralose-ramazzini-soffritti-safety-cancer-study
Thanks for this. This is exactly what got me thinking about this. I saw the recent news release about the article. Since then, been feeling guilty every time I put splenda in something. Thanks so much!0 -
JHALLISGETTINGsmall wrote: »mamaChristine wrote: »And in case the recently released study saying they cause cancer is causing you concern, here is an article that explains why it was a bad study.
http://www.foodinsight.org/splenda-sucralose-ramazzini-soffritti-safety-cancer-study
Thanks for this. This is exactly what got me thinking about this. I saw the recent news release about the article. Since then, been feeling guilty every time I put splenda in something. Thanks so much!
Glad it was helpful! I hate articles that used skewed results.0 -
HorrorGeekLiz wrote: »There are many widely varying opinions on artificial sweeteners - from them being completely harmless (doubt it) to the most detrimental thing you can eat (also doubt it). I am of the opinion that artificial sweeteners probably aren't good for you, but neither is diabetes. If you absolutely cannot get your sweet tooth under control, better this than pounds of sugar (again, my opinion).
HOWEVER, I'm also of the opinion that artificial sweeteners are highly addictive and require a detox. For example, I read in a book once about a Naturopathic Doctor who was treating a patient who was so addicted to artificial sweeteners, her body wouldn't accept water to satiate thirst. No matter how much water she drank, her body would throw out thirst signals until she drank something sweet. I had that exact same issue. I had to stop the Crystal Light, Mio, pop, etc and drink only water for a whole week before I got it under control. Now I have a diet pop most nights, but that is after I've spent the day drinking only water, black coffee, or occasionally tea with real honey.
No more "sugar free" anything (except the pop) and now I find I can control my sweet tooth much more.
You were doing so well until this statement. No. Detox is nonsense.
I was quite clear - it was an opinion based on personal experience. Everything I said, as written, is correct. Nowhere did I state this was scientific fact.
That being said, detox is not nonsense. Addicts everywhere will support that statement. If you feel only detoxing from sugar is nonsense, anyone who has experienced "carb flu" also knows it is very real.0 -
HorrorGeekLiz wrote: »HorrorGeekLiz wrote: »There are many widely varying opinions on artificial sweeteners - from them being completely harmless (doubt it) to the most detrimental thing you can eat (also doubt it). I am of the opinion that artificial sweeteners probably aren't good for you, but neither is diabetes. If you absolutely cannot get your sweet tooth under control, better this than pounds of sugar (again, my opinion).
HOWEVER, I'm also of the opinion that artificial sweeteners are highly addictive and require a detox. For example, I read in a book once about a Naturopathic Doctor who was treating a patient who was so addicted to artificial sweeteners, her body wouldn't accept water to satiate thirst. No matter how much water she drank, her body would throw out thirst signals until she drank something sweet. I had that exact same issue. I had to stop the Crystal Light, Mio, pop, etc and drink only water for a whole week before I got it under control. Now I have a diet pop most nights, but that is after I've spent the day drinking only water, black coffee, or occasionally tea with real honey.
No more "sugar free" anything (except the pop) and now I find I can control my sweet tooth much more.
You were doing so well until this statement. No. Detox is nonsense.
I was quite clear - it was an opinion based on personal experience. Everything I said, as written, is correct. Nowhere did I state this was scientific fact.
That being said, detox is not nonsense. Addicts everywhere will support that statement. If you feel only detoxing from sugar is nonsense, anyone who has experienced "carb flu" also knows it is very real.
Carb flu is not a detox. And what you wrote is only correct to the point of it being your opinion. Unfortunately for you, your opinion is factually wrong.0 -
mamaChristine wrote: »And in case the recently released study saying they cause cancer is causing you concern, here is an article that explains why it was a bad study.
http://www.foodinsight.org/splenda-sucralose-ramazzini-soffritti-safety-cancer-study
How does that institute even still stay open and publishing if it is widely known to be completely wrong on all accounts?0 -
HorrorGeekLiz wrote: »That being said, detox is not nonsense. Addicts everywhere will support that statement. If you feel only detoxing from sugar is nonsense, anyone who has experienced "carb flu" also knows it is very real.
That being said, detox is still nonsense:
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/detox-what-they-dont-want-you-to-know/
Even if addicts everywhere did support your statement, which i doubt, and even if someone experienced carb flu, it doesn't prove, by any stretch of the imagination, that detox is anything but a scam.0 -
HorrorGeekLiz wrote: »That being said, detox is not nonsense. Addicts everywhere will support that statement. If you feel only detoxing from sugar is nonsense, anyone who has experienced "carb flu" also knows it is very real.
That being said, detox is still nonsense:
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/detox-what-they-dont-want-you-to-know/
Even if addicts everywhere did support your statement, which i doubt, and even if someone experienced carb flu, it doesn't prove, by any stretch of the imagination, that detox is anything but a scam.
You're insisting on warping my word choice as if I had used it like I was advertising some gimmick. From the article: "“Detox” is a legitimate medical term that has been turned into a marketing strategy".
If I had used the word "abstain" would that make you happier? All I said was stop eating them for a week - which is something I personally did and had success with. I neither recommended any fake detox treatments (I'm well aware those are bogus) nor did I mention any ridiculous shenanigan conditions mentioned in this article.
You break a nicotine addiction by stopping nicotine, you stop an alcohol addiction by stopping drinking. You have a sugar addiction, you stop sugar.
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HorrorGeekLiz wrote: »HorrorGeekLiz wrote: »That being said, detox is not nonsense. Addicts everywhere will support that statement. If you feel only detoxing from sugar is nonsense, anyone who has experienced "carb flu" also knows it is very real.
That being said, detox is still nonsense:
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/detox-what-they-dont-want-you-to-know/
Even if addicts everywhere did support your statement, which i doubt, and even if someone experienced carb flu, it doesn't prove, by any stretch of the imagination, that detox is anything but a scam.
You're insisting on warping my word choice as if I had used it like I was advertising some gimmick. From the article: "“Detox” is a legitimate medical term that has been turned into a marketing strategy".
If I had used the word "abstain" would that make you happier? All I said was stop eating them for a week - which is something I personally did and had success with. I neither recommended any fake detox treatments (I'm well aware those are bogus) nor did I mention any ridiculous shenanigan conditions mentioned in this article.
You break a nicotine addiction by stopping nicotine, you stop an alcohol addiction by stopping drinking. You have a sugar addiction, you stop sugar.
Flawed analogy. What would a person do who is addicted to food?
Also, I find moderation to be a far more sustainable approach to most things than abstension. Which can lead to bingeing and then remorse.
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HorrorGeekLiz wrote: »HorrorGeekLiz wrote: »That being said, detox is not nonsense. Addicts everywhere will support that statement. If you feel only detoxing from sugar is nonsense, anyone who has experienced "carb flu" also knows it is very real.
That being said, detox is still nonsense:
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/detox-what-they-dont-want-you-to-know/
Even if addicts everywhere did support your statement, which i doubt, and even if someone experienced carb flu, it doesn't prove, by any stretch of the imagination, that detox is anything but a scam.
You're insisting on warping my word choice as if I had used it like I was advertising some gimmick. From the article: "“Detox” is a legitimate medical term that has been turned into a marketing strategy".
If I had used the word "abstain" would that make you happier? All I said was stop eating them for a week - which is something I personally did and had success with. I neither recommended any fake detox treatments (I'm well aware those are bogus) nor did I mention any ridiculous shenanigan conditions mentioned in this article.
You break a nicotine addiction by stopping nicotine, you stop an alcohol addiction by stopping drinking. You have a sugar addiction, you stop sugar.
I did not twist your words at all. You're just upset that I'm pointing out that are factually incorrect. Here is what you originally said:
"There are many widely varying opinions on artificial sweeteners - from them being completely harmless (doubt it) to the most detrimental thing you can eat (also doubt it). I am of the opinion that artificial sweeteners probably aren't good for you, but neither is diabetes. If you absolutely cannot get your sweet tooth under control, better this than pounds of sugar (again, my opinion).
HOWEVER, I'm also of the opinion that artificial sweeteners are highly addictive and require a detox."
Couple of things:
You're of the incorrect opinion that artificial sweeteners are not completely harmless and are addicitive. They is no evidence at all that they are harmful to human health and that they are addictive.
No where in your original statement did you say that you should abstain from them for a week. You said they were highly addictive (they are not) and that you need to detox (you dont.)
In your original statement you were talking about artificial sweeteners and now, for some reason, your changing that to sugar addiction. Last I checked sugar addiction is not real. And are you really comparing alcoholism and nicotine addiction to hypothetical sugar addiction? Nicotine and alcohol addiction destroy lives and rip apart families, sugar doesn't.0 -
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There are so many opinions on this.. but I remember looking it up before (because friends were giving me a hard time that I drink diet sodas (not so much anymore however)) and it said it's one of the most tested things by the FDA and they have no actual solid findings.
I've been drinking diet sodas, juices, syrups, ect since my dad was diagnosed with diabetes about 10-12 years ago. I've never had a problem with it. I was about 10 or 11 when he was diagnosed so, it's been since I was a kid. I actually DO NOT like the tastes of regular soda now, they are WAAAYYY to sweet. (I mean a bottle of orange soda is over 70g of sugar, and my sugar intake currently on this site should be 53 or lower.) I even water down most of my juices, including my light juices!
So eat what you want as long as you feel fine and your doctors say you are healthy!
(my friends will still actually say after I tell them about the FDA testing with no results, they say "well I can STILL be right." ugh, piss off lol.)0
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