Gluten

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  • DaddieCat
    DaddieCat Posts: 3,643 Member
    I'm spelt intolerant. It took my doctor and I a while to identify it, but it was a fun journey. Never new how much spelt is in random breads and other things.

    I do love me some gluten though.
  • one235
    one235 Posts: 70 Member
    thanks for all the replies and help. I will tell my doctor about it and go from there. Thank you all again.
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    It might be the fiber but definitely talk to your Dr
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    tamicoil1 wrote: »
    keepupwithjack wrote: »
    True gluten intolerance/celiac disease affects a small percentage of people.

    There are a lot of people hopping on the gluten free bandwagon. It was the latest/greatest diet tip last year. It will be something else next.

    You do know that gluten intolerance and celiac disease are not the same thing don't you? You can have an intolerance and not have celiac disease.

    Probably not.
    Analyzing the data, Gibson found that each treatment diet, whether it included gluten or not, prompted subjects to report a worsening of gastrointestinal symptoms to similar degrees. Reported pain, bloating, nausea, and gas all increased over the baseline low-FODMAP diet. Even in the second experiment, when the placebo diet was identical to the baseline diet, subjects reported a worsening of symptoms! The data clearly indicated that a nocebo effect, the same reaction that prompts some people to get sick from wind turbines and wireless internet, was at work here.

    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2364869
  • musicfan68
    musicfan68 Posts: 1,143 Member
    FunkyTobias wrote: »
    tamicoil1 wrote: »
    keepupwithjack wrote: »
    True gluten intolerance/celiac disease affects a small percentage of people.

    There are a lot of people hopping on the gluten free bandwagon. It was the latest/greatest diet tip last year. It will be something else next.

    You do know that gluten intolerance and celiac disease are not the same thing don't you? You can have an intolerance and not have celiac disease.

    Probably not.
    Analyzing the data, Gibson found that each treatment diet, whether it included gluten or not, prompted subjects to report a worsening of gastrointestinal symptoms to similar degrees. Reported pain, bloating, nausea, and gas all increased over the baseline low-FODMAP diet. Even in the second experiment, when the placebo diet was identical to the baseline diet, subjects reported a worsening of symptoms! The data clearly indicated that a nocebo effect, the same reaction that prompts some people to get sick from wind turbines and wireless internet, was at work here.

    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2364869

    That very small study proves nothing. I don't have Celiac disease, however, I do have a gluten intolerance. I know this by experimenting myself, and having myself tested. There is a difference between Celiac disease and a gluten intolerance. They are not the same thing.
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    tamicoil1 wrote: »
    FunkyTobias wrote: »
    tamicoil1 wrote: »
    keepupwithjack wrote: »
    True gluten intolerance/celiac disease affects a small percentage of people.

    There are a lot of people hopping on the gluten free bandwagon. It was the latest/greatest diet tip last year. It will be something else next.

    You do know that gluten intolerance and celiac disease are not the same thing don't you? You can have an intolerance and not have celiac disease.

    Probably not.
    Analyzing the data, Gibson found that each treatment diet, whether it included gluten or not, prompted subjects to report a worsening of gastrointestinal symptoms to similar degrees. Reported pain, bloating, nausea, and gas all increased over the baseline low-FODMAP diet. Even in the second experiment, when the placebo diet was identical to the baseline diet, subjects reported a worsening of symptoms! The data clearly indicated that a nocebo effect, the same reaction that prompts some people to get sick from wind turbines and wireless internet, was at work here.

    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2364869

    That very small study proves nothing. I don't have Celiac disease, however, I do have a gluten intolerance. I know this by experimenting myself, and having myself tested. There is a difference between Celiac disease and a gluten intolerance. They are not the same thing.

    37 subjects, double blind, placebo controlled crossover design vs n=1 self diagnosis. Guess which is more reliable?

    And no, you weren't tested for gluten intolerance since no such test exists.
  • htimpaired
    htimpaired Posts: 1,404 Member
    tamicoil1 wrote: »
    FunkyTobias wrote: »
    tamicoil1 wrote: »
    keepupwithjack wrote: »
    True gluten intolerance/celiac disease affects a small percentage of people.

    There are a lot of people hopping on the gluten free bandwagon. It was the latest/greatest diet tip last year. It will be something else next.

    You do know that gluten intolerance and celiac disease are not the same thing don't you? You can have an intolerance and not have celiac disease.

    Probably not.
    Analyzing the data, Gibson found that each treatment diet, whether it included gluten or not, prompted subjects to report a worsening of gastrointestinal symptoms to similar degrees. Reported pain, bloating, nausea, and gas all increased over the baseline low-FODMAP diet. Even in the second experiment, when the placebo diet was identical to the baseline diet, subjects reported a worsening of symptoms! The data clearly indicated that a nocebo effect, the same reaction that prompts some people to get sick from wind turbines and wireless internet, was at work here.

    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2364869

    That very small study proves nothing. I don't have Celiac disease, however, I do have a gluten intolerance. I know this by experimenting myself, and having myself tested. There is a difference between Celiac disease and a gluten intolerance. They are not the same thing.

    Actually, it proves much more than your anectodal evidence. Unless you yourself are a doctor. Although my friend who truly has celiac disease, verified by biopsy of her intestine, thanks people who have "gluten intolerance" for the improved variety of foods in the grocery store that she can eat.
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    edited March 2016
    I do not have celiacs, but I have an actual allergy to wheat, barley and oat (even oat that is gf). This has been verified by blood work. I have had to be on a ventilator many times because of my allergy (throat closes) and have gone in respiratory arrest in the past because of it.

    There are other issues than just celiacs, but I also question the legitimacy of "gluten intolerance".
  • JoshuaMcAllister
    JoshuaMcAllister Posts: 500 Member
    edited March 2016
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »
    tamicoil1 wrote: »
    keepupwithjack wrote: »
    True gluten intolerance/celiac disease affects a small percentage of people.

    There are a lot of people hopping on the gluten free bandwagon. It was the latest/greatest diet tip last year. It will be something else next.

    You do know that gluten intolerance and celiac disease are not the same thing don't you? You can have an intolerance and not have celiac disease.

    It is also claimed by various sources to be the most under diagnosed conditions in the first world. Ignorance is bliss.

    Lots of things are claimed by "various sources," many which -- upon analysis -- turn out to be utterly mistaken. In order to evaluate the claims, we'd need to know what information it was based on.

    I'm sorry, I'll retrace every article I've ever read on the subject just so that I can post sources, in order to have some random poster on a forum will believe me haha. Just give me ten minutes.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    JoshuaMcAllister wrote: »
    tamicoil1 wrote: »
    keepupwithjack wrote: »
    True gluten intolerance/celiac disease affects a small percentage of people.

    There are a lot of people hopping on the gluten free bandwagon. It was the latest/greatest diet tip last year. It will be something else next.

    You do know that gluten intolerance and celiac disease are not the same thing don't you? You can have an intolerance and not have celiac disease.

    It is also claimed by various sources to be the most under diagnosed conditions in the first world. Ignorance is bliss.

    Lots of things are claimed by "various sources," many which -- upon analysis -- turn out to be utterly mistaken. In order to evaluate the claims, we'd need to know what information it was based on.

    I'm sorry, I'll retrace every article I've ever read on the subject just so that I can post sources, in order to have some random poster on a forum will believe me haha. Just give me ten minutes.

    Nobody is forcing you to participate in a conversation. It isn't unreasonable for someone who claims that various sources support something to be able to name a couple of those sources. If you truly have no idea who claims that or where, maybe claiming it publicly isn't the best idea.

    My point is that "various sources" make all sorts of claims. For that to have any meaning, people need to know what those sources are. Is it some random website run by a raw foodist? Is it a site run by medical researchers? These things make a difference even if you would rather they don't.
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