Eat to Live

janejellyroll wrote: »

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darlswife wrote: »

We have that book here. My husband wanted to try it. Water sauté - ing made me burn our wok. And I effing hate kale. I am willing to make a lot of changes in my life to lose weight, but giving up meat is not one of them. Eating huge plates of water sautéd veggies is not for me. I think there was one recipe that may have been tolerable but he had recipes with 15 different ingredients. Even the smoothies were awful. Not impressed. Let me eat my own food sautéed in whatever I want. He's into the memberships and the money.

Stuff like that is what makes me think he's really over the top. I'd try a plant-based diet for a while to see if I liked how it makes me feel (I actually started an experiment and might go back to it). But I really don't understand the idea that even small amounts of olive oil must be avoided, especially since it makes vegetables so much tastier (although I am suspicious that it's something related to that).

I think the idea is because it doesn't taste as good, you're going to eat only to extinguish your hunger. I tried "Eat to Live" for a week years ago and it felt like a struggle to eat because so much of the food was raw and the salt/fat content was so low.

Yeah, that was my suspicion.

redchevy54 wrote: »

snowflake930 wrote: »

He is always on the membership drive for PBS when they are asking for money.

That is where I first heard him talk. What he said made sense. I bought the audio book and his encouragement and validation of nutrition principles has changed my life.

His Eat to Live book was published in 2003. It has a reasonable plan.
Later, Furhman went of the rails when he made a nutty web site and hooked up with the quack Dr. Oz.

Fuhrman is a grade A quack.

arios952013 wrote: »

Again, please read the Eat to Live book by Doctor Joel Fuhrman before making judgments or thoughtless statements. Don't put down people looking for true nutrition. I don't count calories, and I look for nutrient rich foods, whole foods not processed. I also review what is good to eat to avoid cancer and/or recover from cancer. I also know meat has no fiber and clogs arteries. In addition, I saw my cholestrol fall form the 200s to 147 and all my other numbers looking better than ever.

I too had a major drop in my cholesterol, but I have not given up meat, eggs, cheese, or, really, any foods. I personally do not do well on diets that restrict certain foods or food groups.

dwalt15110 wrote: »

Wow! It's so amazing how differences in opinion certainly bring out the cattiness in people. First of all, there is no best way to lose weight. Not everyone likes the same things. Not everyone works out in the same way. I know this is going to sound blasphemous, but calories in and calories out doesn't work for everyone.

Second, perhaps instead of being closed minded, you might want to read to be better informed. If you haven't read Dr. Fuhrman's book and researched his approach, you have no idea what he has proposed. I always find that those who attack something do so because it's different from what they think is right.

I know no one would ever eat Doritos, but 1 ounce of Doritos is 140 calories. That's 11 chips. Not very filling. Yet, for that same 140 calories, I can eat almost 1 pound of green beans.

A vegetarian approach is not for everyone, just as a diet of meat isn't, or one based on fats, and I can go on and on. However, there is a respectful way of disagreeing and a disrespectful way. Attacking someone's ideas, because they don't match yours is disrespectful. Even without caps lock on, attitude shines through.

OP I'm glad you found something that has you exciting about losing weight. Only you will know if this is the right thing for you.

I eat Doritos. Granted I don't feel like eating them often, but when I feel like having them I do and enjoy every single one of these 11 chips.

That's besides the point though. If we are applying the same rules no one would eat nuts. Why would I eat walnuts when 1 ounce of walnuts is 185 calories? That's only 14 walnut halves (or 7 whole walnuts if you will). I can eat almost 15 Doritos for that many calories!

Kidding aside. The thing is, there is a place for Doritos (and walnuts, and green beans, and meat...etc) in a diet. You have a calorie allowance, so you budget the calories accordingly among the foods you feel you want for that day and judge what is worth the calories and what isn't. If you treat it like a money budget, do you always go for the cheapest options? Or do you sometimes buy something that isn't the cheapest simply because you deem it worthy? (tastier, looks better, has better options, provides better entertainment..etc)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUal2iAeDU4

I'm reading it from the library right now, although I've been eating this way for about a year.

I've found that cutting out meat and cheese and full-fat dairy worked for me to get my cholesterol down, and I've progressively cut out dairy and eggs, without really trying particularly. I still have fish maybe once a week and meat occasionally, and will probably share a goose egg with the family once this year, but want to get my cholesterol down some more. My approach was to give it a go for a month and see what happened, but I had a visible goal in mind (my cholesterol numbers were truly awful after bingeing on saturated fats after reading the Nina-Whats-Her-Face-Saturated-Fats-Book) and I approached it as an experiment, getting tested both before and after the month. My tastes changed in that month, and I don't miss anything, even though I suppose I didn't really give anything up for good, so adherence hasn't been an issue. In fact, the flavors of what I enjoy are more diverse, spicy and tasty than before, so it just goes to show that if you're motivated it doesn't feel restrictive. You adapt.

Having said all that, mine was a study with an n=1, and so it won't suit or necessarily work for everyone, in a similar way to the recent study which cautioned people who originate from vegetarian-based cultures may struggle with coping with a more meat-oriented diet. Genetics and their interplay with your environment is a huge undiscovered country!