How much sugar is TOO much sugar?
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Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »alyssawentland wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »I would think a max of 30g per day, but I personally try to keep it at 25 or less.
The question you might ask is, is there a loss of bodyfat? Especially around your belly.
If you have a glucometer to test your blood sugar at home, that will also tell you if your blood glucose is at an acceptable level.
You can limit fruit (lowering your carb macro), and instead increase your protein and fat macros. My own diet is 45-50% fat, and protein goal is 115g (protein grams the same number as my Lean Body Mass which is 115 lbs) and I lost weight very efficiently. If your veggies are non-starchy, the sugars from source will be minimal. Yay for veggies!!
Do you track fiber? Soluble fiber slows the entrance of sugar into your system, so whatever sugars you do eat, fiber will help to prevent spikes in blood sugar. Track fiber and increase it slowly to 35g or more!
Why would someone who doesn't have diabetes be testing their blood sugar?
OP, I only pay attention to added sugar, as others have said. I don't think twice about sugar from fruits and vegetables.
Because some people don't want to wait for diabetes to change their eating habits.
Well sugar doesn't cause diabetes. Genetics, obesity and inactivity are the bigger drives. And considering the OP is getting sugar from fruits and veggies, I wouldn't worry about it. I know the WHO recommends limiting added sugars to 10% of calories or 25gs per day (or something like that).
OP, honestly, if you goal is lowering your body fat, the more important things are calories, macros (generally want moderate protein so you can achieve 1g per lb of lean body mass), a solid resistance/weight training routine and more importantly... patience.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »I would say 1 tsp. But it is totally a personal decision, i would try cutting it out if I were you and gradually reintroduce it and see what works best.
1 tsp is 4.2 grams. So according to you, the 135 g of brussels sprouts I had with breakfast (5.1 g of sugar) went over my daily limit and I better not eat any more vegetables, and certainly no plain greek yogurt or fruit! Heck, a normal-sized banana would TRIPLE the daily limit. Guess I better eat only a third, and only on a day with no vegetables.
Does this really seem to you to make sense? Or did you jump in without actually reading the OP's post?0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »DancingDarl wrote: »I would say 1 tsp. But it is totally a personal decision, i would try cutting it out if I were you and gradually reintroduce it and see what works best.
1 tsp is 4.2 grams. So according to you, the 135 g of brussels sprouts I had with breakfast (5.1 g of sugar) went over my daily limit and I better not eat any more vegetables, and certainly no plain greek yogurt or fruit! Heck, a normal-sized banana would TRIPLE the daily limit. Guess I better eat only a third, and only on a day with no vegetables.
Does this really seem to you to make sense? Or did you jump in without actually reading the OP's post?
I think this. I was wondering myself.0 -
alyssawentland wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »alyssawentland wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »I would think a max of 30g per day, but I personally try to keep it at 25 or less.
The question you might ask is, is there a loss of bodyfat? Especially around your belly.
If you have a glucometer to test your blood sugar at home, that will also tell you if your blood glucose is at an acceptable level.
You can limit fruit (lowering your carb macro), and instead increase your protein and fat macros. My own diet is 45-50% fat, and protein goal is 115g (protein grams the same number as my Lean Body Mass which is 115 lbs) and I lost weight very efficiently. If your veggies are non-starchy, the sugars from source will be minimal. Yay for veggies!!
Do you track fiber? Soluble fiber slows the entrance of sugar into your system, so whatever sugars you do eat, fiber will help to prevent spikes in blood sugar. Track fiber and increase it slowly to 35g or more!
Why would someone who doesn't have diabetes be testing their blood sugar?
OP, I only pay attention to added sugar, as others have said. I don't think twice about sugar from fruits and vegetables.
Because some people don't want to wait for diabetes to change their eating habits.
If you have blood work done at your annual physical with normal results I can't imagine why you would need to be so hyper active about it. That seems obsessive to me. Why would you be looking for a problem you don't have?
If you are concerned about your blood sugar, you can test it yourself.
lol!
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Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »alyssawentland wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »alyssawentland wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »I would think a max of 30g per day, but I personally try to keep it at 25 or less.
The question you might ask is, is there a loss of bodyfat? Especially around your belly.
If you have a glucometer to test your blood sugar at home, that will also tell you if your blood glucose is at an acceptable level.
You can limit fruit (lowering your carb macro), and instead increase your protein and fat macros. My own diet is 45-50% fat, and protein goal is 115g (protein grams the same number as my Lean Body Mass which is 115 lbs) and I lost weight very efficiently. If your veggies are non-starchy, the sugars from source will be minimal. Yay for veggies!!
Do you track fiber? Soluble fiber slows the entrance of sugar into your system, so whatever sugars you do eat, fiber will help to prevent spikes in blood sugar. Track fiber and increase it slowly to 35g or more!
Why would someone who doesn't have diabetes be testing their blood sugar?
OP, I only pay attention to added sugar, as others have said. I don't think twice about sugar from fruits and vegetables.
Because some people don't want to wait for diabetes to change their eating habits.
If you have blood work done at your annual physical with normal results I can't imagine why you would need to be so hyper active about it. That seems obsessive to me. Why would you be looking for a problem you don't have?
If you are concerned about your blood sugar, you can test it yourself.
lol!
My point is I don't need to test it myself.
I am not concerned about my blood sugar.
I have blood work done twice a year. It is always normal.
Any more than that seems excessive for someone with no blood sugar issues.0 -
chelshepherd wrote: »Hey all. I have recently started a food diary with myfitnesspal, and I am struggling with exceeding my daily sugar intake.
The problem is that all of the sugars that are being recorded are coming from my fruits & vegetables. I eat a lot of them in a day, which is why my intake is higher than it "should" be.
So what I want to know is... how much sugar is too much sugar?? And is it alright that my fruits & veggies are exceeding my sugar intake?!
Sugar is sugar, regardless of the source. I am not concerned with sugar intake from veggies, although I do limit fruit and also other sources of sugar. I actually think it's important to eat a lot of veggies, it makes me feel more satisfied, and I think it has other benefits too. I'd rather not go over on my carbs and sugar, but don't mind having high protein and fat macro intakes. Setting my sugar intake is actually my last consideration:
I'm 5'7", and 47 yo
When I set my macro intake, I start with protein...since my lean body mass is 115lbs, i aim for 115g protein.
Then I set my fiber intake, I track fiber and aim for 35g or more from legumes, beans, chia/flaxseeds, and a little comes from veggies.
Then I consider carbs, which I try to keep minimal, ie, only as much as I need to feel energetic for workouts, for me this is currently about 120g...more if I do more exercise.
Calories and fat grams fall into place, at about 1700 cals with moderate exercise, with fat grams equal or less than my protein intake. This is actually a lot of filling food! I eat 150g non-starchy veggies with meals, 450g daily.
Sugar intake ends up being low without any real effort on my part. I use stevia as a sweetener when I need one.
Higher sugar/carb intake for me, and not eating enough veggies, I associate with a stall in my weight loss (fat loss) progress.
If you look at my diary you'll have to go back a week.....I was on vacay, then came home and was sick for 2 days....I'm trying to get back on track now.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »I would say 1 tsp. But it is totally a personal decision, i would try cutting it out if I were you and gradually reintroduce it and see what works best.
Wow what a random and arbitrary number to select. Do you care to elaborate on how you selected this baseline measure?
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So should every person get a glucometer and strips to randomly test themselves when they have no symptoms of diabetes or even prediabetes?? Or if your doctor or medical team is not concerned about it?
An annual test is probably wise, as the only symptoms are elevated blood glucose.0 -
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So should every person get a glucometer and strips to randomly test themselves when they have no symptoms of diabetes or even prediabetes?? Or if your doctor or medical team is not concerned about it?
An annual test is probably wise, as the only symptoms are elevated blood glucose.
I'll let my doctor decide what tests I need....and usually she does one, but that has nothing to do with the poster above laughing and saying that random people should test their own blood sugar on the regular. That's just silliness for someone who has no issues with blood sugar or diabetes IMO.
Heck, I've had issues in the past with my glucose numbers and I still think that's extreme With my weight loss and now maintenance my glucose numbers have stabilized in the 80s, and my doctor has me come in twice a year to get blood panels done (I go in next month for the next batch). Both me and my doctor are comfortable with this, and I can't imagine testing at home-that would just lead to pointless obsession for me.0 -
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Ban white and corn sugars from your diet....the rest will fall into place with a healthy diet...no calculations involved...easy peasy.0
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Pathmonkey wrote: »Ban white and corn sugars from your diet....the rest will fall into place with a healthy diet...no calculations involved...easy peasy.
You can definitely still gain weight eliminating 'non-white/corn sugars' from your diet, if you're eating above your maintenance level calories.0 -
ReaderGirl3 wrote: »Pathmonkey wrote: »Ban white and corn sugars from your diet....the rest will fall into place with a healthy diet...no calculations involved...easy peasy.
You can definitely still gain weight eliminating 'non-white/corn sugars' from your diet, if you're eating above your maintenance level calories.
By 'healthy diet' I meant healthy and within maintenance level calories.0 -
Pathmonkey wrote: »ReaderGirl3 wrote: »Pathmonkey wrote: »Ban white and corn sugars from your diet....the rest will fall into place with a healthy diet...no calculations involved...easy peasy.
You can definitely still gain weight eliminating 'non-white/corn sugars' from your diet, if you're eating above your maintenance level calories.
By 'healthy diet' I meant healthy and within maintenance level calories.
Ah, gotcha! You threw me off when you said no calculations, I thought that meant you weren't still being mindful of calorie intake.0 -
ReaderGirl3 wrote: »Pathmonkey wrote: »ReaderGirl3 wrote: »Pathmonkey wrote: »Ban white and corn sugars from your diet....the rest will fall into place with a healthy diet...no calculations involved...easy peasy.
You can definitely still gain weight eliminating 'non-white/corn sugars' from your diet, if you're eating above your maintenance level calories.
By 'healthy diet' I meant healthy and within maintenance level calories.
Ah, gotcha! You threw me off when you said no calculations, I thought that meant you weren't still being mindful of calorie intake.
LOL don't I wish there were absolutely no calcs involved... eat freely... what a dream! Yup, meant sugars aren't a big complicated thing if white/corn was banned from the diet. Sorry for the confusion, my bad!0 -
Sugars aren't a big complicated thing if you eat added sugar in moderation, either, such as in the amounts recommended by the WHO.0
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Sugars aren't a big complicated thing if you eat added sugar in moderation, either, such as in the amounts recommended by the WHO.
Yup.0 -
I've been hearing today in the UK, that diabetes is a problem world wide now. Countries which were seen as being in poverty only a few years ago are now in the same fix as us their populations are falling into the same diabetic difficulties as we have. The advice now seems to be becoming eat or drink as little added sugar as possible. Keep sweet stuff as an occasional treat. We are in general living and eating so very differently to how our relatives one hundred years ago would have lived and eaten which is closer to how our bodies were programmed to work.
I used to consider the added sugar level as something I need not worry about too much but increasingly it is becoming obvious our livers etc are finding added much harder to eliminate because of the quantities we have been eating, sweet foods are so enticing, now it seems so very important. I differentiate fruit and vegetable sugars because they come with natural fibre which make them more digestible but again too many portions a day could cause problems for some.
If I were 20 again, knowing what I do now, I would avoid so many of the foods I used to indulge in only having the very occasional treat. That way I would probably have avoided problems I have acquired.
Oh, Fuzzi! That is the truth!! I've been a vegetarian for a while, love veggies, and eat healthy...but in college...I existed on really bad food, the only vegetables I ate were a couple of pickles and some ketchup on my cheeseburger. If I knew then what I knew now...I would have had a different lifestyle.0 -
alyssawentland wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »I would think a max of 30g per day, but I personally try to keep it at 25 or less.
The question you might ask is, is there a loss of bodyfat? Especially around your belly.
If you have a glucometer to test your blood sugar at home, that will also tell you if your blood glucose is at an acceptable level.
You can limit fruit (lowering your carb macro), and instead increase your protein and fat macros. My own diet is 45-50% fat, and protein goal is 115g (protein grams the same number as my Lean Body Mass which is 115 lbs) and I lost weight very efficiently. If your veggies are non-starchy, the sugars from source will be minimal. Yay for veggies!!
Do you track fiber? Soluble fiber slows the entrance of sugar into your system, so whatever sugars you do eat, fiber will help to prevent spikes in blood sugar. Track fiber and increase it slowly to 35g or more!
Why would someone who doesn't have diabetes be testing their blood sugar?
OP, I only pay attention to added sugar, as others have said. I don't think twice about sugar from fruits and vegetables.
my dad is diabetic, and tests his sugar level several times a day, I'm not but I test it to make sure I'm ok as I don't to be diabetic0
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