Anyone have their kids use MFP? (not for weightloss)
Beaner63
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My 11 year old daughter is in the higher side of healthy weight range for her age. However, she has the same love of food that her mother and I do.
She's not very active, more into art and music (she's not coordinated at all when it comes to sports).
I was thinking of setting up MFP for her to use as a calorie journal for a month to try and get her to see how many calories she is taking in and to start to understand food choices come with consquences.
I want her to figure out, without me just saying it, that it's fine to eat things like cheeze-it's, but when you eat a box (which she has on saturday afternoon while reading) it's more calories than if she had a big hamburger from a fast food place.
She's not very active, more into art and music (she's not coordinated at all when it comes to sports).
I was thinking of setting up MFP for her to use as a calorie journal for a month to try and get her to see how many calories she is taking in and to start to understand food choices come with consquences.
I want her to figure out, without me just saying it, that it's fine to eat things like cheeze-it's, but when you eat a box (which she has on saturday afternoon while reading) it's more calories than if she had a big hamburger from a fast food place.
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No.
She's still growing! I think having her journal her calories now could lead to potential eating disorder territory. I think it's just enough to teach our children to be mindful, to exercise moderation, make good choices, etc.
If you're concerned about her weight, it's far better to increase her activity and get her involved in a sport or dance, etc that she'll enjoy.
And on another note, 18 is the minimum age requirement for MFP, so it would be against ToC to have an account for her.
Maybe when she's a teenager you can try sparkteens, but for the love of all that's good, let her be a kid and grow.
ETA: If you don't want her to eat a box of cheez-its or what have you, remember, you're the parent. So parent. Tell her no more snacks or whatever until lunch or dinner. Or portion them out into snack bags.
ETAA: If you think she needs help, bring it up with her pediatrician. If her pediatrician is concerned he/she will direct you to the right resources to help her.17 -
Not only is it a bad idea (11 year old girls...bodily changes, self confidence, peer pressure to be a certain weight...etc), but MFP is for 18+. If you think she shouldn't eat a whole box of crackers, pour some in a bowl for her or ask her to pour herself a bowl to eat while she's reading.1
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No no no no no no! Please don't!
I don't have children, but I was a plump 11 year old and the way my mum tried to help me was fairly similar and it really messed with my head. I grew up thinking there was something wrong with my body (there was nothing wrong that growing and a general encouragement of healthy food wouldn't have fixed) and that my worth was based on what I looked like and weighed.
If you want to help her, focus on educating her about what foods will give her energy to do the things she enjoys. I would have really benefitted from hearing that my dancing and horse riding would be easier and better if I gave my body healthy fuel with occasional treats. Please don't make food into the enemy or something to be feared.1 -
I think it is good to show her how many calories her food is worth.
I would do her journal for one-two days with her together so that you can show her how much each thing is worth. I think it is good for her to have an idea how a cup of chopped tomatoes compares to a cup of peanut butter calorie-wise for example. And things like that.
I wouldn't recommend asking her to log on a regular basis though.4 -
No i wouldn't set an acct up for my 11yr old.
Instead of tracking calories for him , we track his activities.
He earns play coins on his Nintendo ds for steps walked or ran. So we get outside and be active and he loves earning the coins on the video game. It motivates him to play outside longer because he wants to earn more coins for his game. He likes seeing the distance he has ran or walked and enjoys competing against others in challenges.
My son is also at the upper end of a healthy weight but i didnt want to track calories for him at this age. I just preplan meals with him and work in tasty treats too so he doesnt feel deprived. We talk about healthy choices and why treats can't be for every single meal. I try to give him the knowledge needed but at a childs level3 -
I have an 11 year old daughter as well (also a 9yr old one). I've taught them about calories and how to read nutrition labels. We've also talked about weight and how it's connected to good/poor health (using my own experience as an example, plus others in our family etc). But, at their age I wouldn't feel comfortable taking it any further at this point. It's more educational right now. They are both thin, and have no issues with weight/height.
Now with my 8 year old son, who as a baby was labeled failure to thrive because he was so small, I do talk to him more about his food intake. He's my kid who can go a whole day without eating because he's so busy with whatever he's doing that he forgets. I will get after him to eat and I do monitor his food intake more. But, I do that part, not him.0 -
I would not do this. Rather, you should talk with her about how you are making healthier choices. Teach her how to read nutrition labels and help her understand that "cookies are a sometimes food." Teach her to cook healthy meals and to get some daily activity, by doing those things together.1
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My best friend had a mother who would always comment on the food she ate and she now has secret binge issues, im certainly not sure trying to put associations on food at 11 is a positive step sorry, however teaching her about nutrition is great1
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The Terms of Service state that all users must be 18 or older. Setting your daughter up with an account would be a violation of these terms and could result in having both of your accounts deleted.7
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Absolutely not. If she eating more than she should, it is up to you as parents to help her, by changing the family eating habits. If you see her consuming a ton of calories from treats for example, do not have these treats daily at home, buy only one individual serving for her per week, or teach her how much a serving is, give to her, and hide the rest.
As for exercise, weight loss goals aside, encourage her to try something. Not being good at sports is a very poor excuse for not exercising - the less you try, the worst you will be. Try to become more physically active as a family, and ask her to pick up one sport, for health reasons, not weight loss reasons.0 -
She is on the threshold of one of the hardest ages to be for girls (maybe boys too, but I am one of 7 sisters, no brothers, and my only child is a girl)
As her parents, you have to make guidelines, but there is a very fine line here. Resentment could become an issue. Show her by example and try doing physical things together with her. Walks, bike rides, etc.
Talk to her about choices, and how to make better ones. Keep raw veggies and fruit available for snacks. Let her help make food preparations.
MFP doesn't have a program for kids, but I think Spark People has something, check it out.
Best of luck to your family!1 -
You could do some active things with her on weekends and have scheduled meals/snacks to just help her get into some healthier habits. I wouldn't make it about her weight just about living a healthy and active lifestyle.0
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I saw a product called Fitbook Junior that may work as a teaching tool to help you. It's a journal for food, exercise, home and school goals. It helps parents and kids focus on healthy behaviors and less about the numbers.1
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You don't need a mfp account to educate your children on healthy eating habits. Also you do the shopping, buy her the single serve packs and explain that she can have one. I buy fruit and weigh them out into Tupperware that are around 100 cals a container and my kids will snack on that.1
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No to logging food on MFP for an 11 year old or trying to get her to figure it out on her own.
You can talk about food choices and nutrition without judgement on her or foods she likes. You can designate some foods as sometimes foods. There are books and web sites for kids about nutrition.
Look at food labels and nutrition information of common foods together and what your body does with foods as a science project.
You control the food coming into your home not your 11 year old. Stop buying crackers in big containers or start portioning out foods into baggies or containers. Stop buying crackers at all if you prefer.
Get a kid's cookbook and help her learn how to prepare more nutritious foods. Cook more meals.
Set a good example with your habits.
Grow a garden together.
Get her started snacking on things like popcorn, fruits, vegetables, and hard boiled eggs. Give her more filling foods instead of low protein, low fiber, low nutrition foods.
http://www.kidshealth.org
http://www.choosemyplate.gov/
http://www.nourishinteractive.com/kids/5-food-group-games
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&keywords=nutrition books for kids&tag=youperlapbang-20&index=blended&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=93251 -
She is a baby still. Help her to find low-key activities she'll enjoy. Hiking might work. Or yoga. Pilates. Walking.0
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When my stepdaughter was on spring break a few weeks ago her dad tracked her food on his own account all week to the best he could just to get a good idea of how she is eating each day. She is 8 years old and weighs 108 as of today. Her doctor has suggested we try to get her to lose a pound or two per month but so far no success. She maintains usually with a gradual gain each month of a pound.0
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My 11 year old daughter is in the higher side of healthy weight range for her age. However, she has the same love of food that her mother and I do.
She's not very active, more into art and music (she's not coordinated at all when it comes to sports).
I was thinking of setting up MFP for her to use as a calorie journal for a month to try and get her to see how many calories she is taking in and to start to understand food choices come with consquences.
I want her to figure out, without me just saying it, that it's fine to eat things like cheeze-it's, but when you eat a box (which she has on saturday afternoon while reading) it's more calories than if she had a big hamburger from a fast food place.
I think it is great that you want to teach her early about nutrition and what you have learned through MFP, and I agree that there are better ways to go about that with an 11 year old girl. The suggestions about teaching her to read a nutrition label (especially at the grocery store when you are choosing food) are good ones for the larger picture of learning about nutrition, as are the reminders that you are the parent and can lead by example. Does anyone else in the family sit with the bag or box of food, and read or watch TV? If so, maybe it is time to have her help to measure out a "single serving" and eat from that?0 -
I think this could be a great tool, and to use it to teach about nutrition. Yes, the parents are in control of what goes into the childs mouth etc, but at that age that child can walk into the kitchen and sneak food etc. Or maybe add activities you can do as a family, walks, playing catch, biking etc it will be good bonding time and will get her moving.0
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Thanks for the suggestions on other ways and other places.
We do go on family walks, usually 5 out 7 nights a week.
As I said, this thought wasn't about weightloss, more about accountability. Having access to the MFP database and being able to scan barcodes on her own phone would be helpful.
As one of the moderators pointed out this is against the TOS, please go ahead and lock this thread.0 -
As a child who was never overweight but worried far too much about it, I agree this would be a bad thing.
We have a daughter who is similar to what you explain! She is 10 almost 11. She too loves food. We try our best to keep her active in things she is interested in. Sports may not be her thing but she love to swim so we go to the pool. Or trampoline park. Things that are fun and active are necessarily sports.
At 11 your daughter hasn't even reached her full growth. As she grows she will probably stretch out and her body will change. She will develop healthy lifestyle choices by watching you and the rest of the family.
The other issue is that she could take this the wrong way. You don't want to be saying watch what you eat and see this is full of calories don't eat that, she could take it the wrong way. She may think you think she is fat. And that isn't ok.
If a doctor is saying that things need to change then you start putting in place under the doctor's supervision if you just are worried about it then just let her be a kid for a while. If you are living a healthy lifestyle she'll follow you.0 -
Sometimes as parents we want to fix everything asap!believe me , i totally get that part.
The reason you have gotten some slack here is because counting calories at that age could open the doorways to disordered eating.
You mentioned you already walk with her, thats awesome! Im doing the same thing !( like i mentioned above, if she had a Nintendo ds you can get her into these activities challenges where the kids earn play coins by tracking their steps with the ds. My son loves it. All the kids on his do it . As soon as they get on the bus in the morning they all huddle together and talk about their steps and how many coins it earned them. For my son, it keeps him motivated to keep going )
As far as the food, just keep an open dialogue about healthy choices and be mindful of her portions of snack foods.
I know you created this thread because you want to help your kid. Thats commendable. It really is. Tracking her calories might not be the best move though. Theres plenty of other ways to get there though ☺2 -
I agree with others that that is a bad idea. Also, if you want her to eat better the easiest way is to prepare her healthier food options. Don't buy chips, cookies, cheez-itz and all that. If it isn't in the house, she can't eat it.0
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I know children of her age can buy their own snacks when they're at school or with friends, but it'd surely help to just not buy any of that kind of food in as family? Encouraging her to be active is the best thing to do, but removing snack food from the home is a fair and sensible measure, and benefits everyone.0
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Could you get her to be more active?
The walks are great, but it'd be nice if she had an activity she did by herself with people her own age. I get that she isn't sporty but at 11 there are a lot of options. Running, soccer, even stuff at the local rec center like climbing. My parents were probably a lot like you are your wife, overweight, always on diets, and activity was something they only did to lose weight. I wish they had emphasized more the "fun" and the "play" of physical activity.
I would focus more that you want her to take on a challenge, not that you are worried she will put on weight. Most growing kids will not get overweight as long as they have enough activity to compensate.
I really wish my parents had pushed for me to be more active when I was a kid. I run now, who would have thought it, and thought I was the most uncoordinated anti-fit person when I was her age. I bet she's capable of a lot more than she gives herself credit for.0 -
blues4miles wrote: »Could you get her to be more active?
The walks are great, but it'd be nice if she had an activity she did by herself with people her own age. I get that she isn't sporty but at 11 there are a lot of options. Running, soccer, even stuff at the local rec center like climbing. My parents were probably a lot like you are your wife, overweight, always on diets, and activity was something they only did to lose weight. I wish they had emphasized more the "fun" and the "play" of physical activity.
I would focus more that you want her to take on a challenge, not that you are worried she will put on weight. Most growing kids will not get overweight as long as they have enough activity to compensate.
I really wish my parents had pushed for me to be more active when I was a kid. I run now, who would have thought it, and thought I was the most uncoordinated anti-fit person when I was her age. I bet she's capable of a lot more than she gives herself credit for.
Um, no we don't just do activities to just lose weight. Even at my biggest we would do activities for fun.
We also bike in the neighborhood. We live in northern California, so hiking comes around at least once every 3 weeks since there are thousands of trails around us. We go skating, bowling. We are not the type of parents who are going to force her into a sport just to have one.
In the past she has tried gymanstics, softball, volleyball, and soccer. None of them have stuck with her. We have never been the one to stop her, she has basically told us she was done because she wasn't having enjoying it for whatever reason.
As I have stated, this thread has nothing to do with me thinking she is currently overwight or heavy or anything. But I want to build a foundation now that she is in middle school to make better choices not only on the types of things she eats, but the amounts of the thing she eats.
She's a tween, and sometimes just me talking to/at her isn't going to get through to her.0 -
Your daughter has a bad habit of mindless eating. I've had it. It's beat-able. She just has to be aware of it. Bad habits really bite when her adolescent appetites set in with her hormonal chaos.1
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Do you have a YMCA near you? Ours has an iZone for older kids with games, a kids rock climbing wall, pool... Ours even has a zumba for kids class. I'm thinking of taking my daughter - something fun we can do together. My daughter isn't that coordinated, but she loves swimming/playing in the pool/sprinklers and playing games with other kids.
I feel like with her being in school she spends so much of her day sitting and learning (she has PE twice a week). When we come home from school it's more sitting to do homework and practice piano. I feel like we have to schedule physical activity for her! She's only 7!
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What about getting her involved in the family meal planning, food shopping, meal prep, etc.? That's different than just talking to her.
Also, participation in organized athletics doesn't have to just be about physical exercise. Depending on the sport, it can teach team-building, social skills, self-reliance, perseverance and so much more. I know it's not for everyone, but as a parent, I'm going to try to help my kids find a sport they like and will stick with.2
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