Weight Watchers?

When I was doing WW... Some while ago.... 50 cals was 1 point

I'm not sure how that correlates. By its very nature the points system will be less accurate than logging calories by weight directly. I'd just choose one and stick with it. Adherence is more important than accuracy I suppose.

When they calculate your points they probably hold back calories to allow room for the "free" point foods you can eat since they want to encourage eating fruit and veggies

alvinlau316 wrote: »

In my humble opinion, the point system is a bit of a crutch. The essential skill you need to pick up to not just lose weight but also maintaining after achieving your goals is by educating yourself better with macronutrients and calorie counting. I'm not going to lie and say it's easy but I can promise you it gets easier. Eventually you will be able to eyeball food amounts and estimate calories etc. Also, get a food scale and read up on flexible dieting.

You're absolutely right. Weight Watchers' goal is to keep you as a customer for life. Even at "lifetime", or in maintenance, you are still counting points. Every day. Forever. You don't learn how to eat or portion control without the points.

I heard they consider fruits and veggies "free".... um those have calories so how can one lose weight w/out accounting for those calories.

DoreenaV1975 wrote: »

I heard they consider fruits and veggies "free".... um those have calories so how can one lose weight w/out accounting for those calories.

They are in the business of convincing their costumers that CICO is not the only way to lose weight. The longer it takes people to lose weight, the more money they make. $45 a month, every month, for however long it takes and however many times a person joins.

Fruits and vegetables are free but the scarier thing is how many other things are 0 or 1 point as well.

DoreenaV1975 wrote: »

alyssawentland wrote: »

DoreenaV1975 wrote: »

I heard they consider fruits and veggies "free".... um those have calories so how can one lose weight w/out accounting for those calories.

They are in the business of convincing their costumers that CICO is not the only way to lose weight. The longer it takes people to lose weight, the more money they make. $45 a month, every month, for however long it takes and however many times a person joins.

Fruits and vegetables are free but the scarier thing is how many other things are 0 or 1 point as well.

The banana I had the other day had was 95 calories... that doesn't sound free to me! Could you imagine a WW follower saying I'm just going to eat fruits and veggies all day cuz they're "free" thinking they're not consuming any calories... Unless they teach it differently, IDK, I've not been to WW.

Haha, there are people who do that! They truly believe because Weight Watchers says it is "free" that it has no implication on their weight loss. I see it every day. I've seen many people freak out and lose it when they put the nutritional information of fruits and vegetables into the Weight Watchers calculator and see how many "points" they'd actually be eating if they weren't 0 points by default.

But if you don't monitor calorie intake, don't you regain weight? I have family members who stopped logging here and regained weight, so how is it any different than regaining once you stop counting points? At least WW teaches better eating habits and the psychology that fits with it. Where do you find that here? In the case of the person I'm speaking of, that was something I guess she had to figure out for herself but never did. All she did was eat the same junk and count for it, and once she stopped counting the weight came back.

chnphillips wrote: »

But if you don't monitor calorie intake, don't you regain weight? I have family members who stopped logging here and regained weight, so how is it any different than regaining once you stop counting points? At least WW teaches better eating habits and the psychology that fits with it. Where do you find that here? In the case of the person I'm speaking of, that was something I guess she had to figure out for herself but never did. All she did was eat the same junk and count for it, and once she stopped counting the weight came back.

A person could still log calories without MFP. I did this a long time ago with a notepad and just nutritional label information. Nothing changes, you just don't have the handy software.

I did bith ways too because it was random the way they fiqured out the 2016 pount system and cost extra if had suger in it the calorie point was not the main reason behind what eating i fiqured out the calories to fiqure out how much i was eating same exact diet two days in riw equalef different totals with no good reason as to why exceot its to keep the $ comibg in because tgey wajt to keep collecting making money eveytime id ask for help they say pay fir meeting ir tell me to pay fir coach . last year i was successful with those points system and helped me eat better and thought it was expanding to include more excersises or emotional support but the points are very confusing and seems more like the low carb diet im not namig . so i was confused and disappointed in this years attempt last year when i ended up in hospital i couldnt travt anymore so i gained it back. This year lost couple pounds then decided to try fiqure out how it worked the community was fav part of this years attempt and someone there recommended this myfitness app to me as well. But no steady amount to eat each day so obonee day be stuffed next day be starving did both for couple months side by side and discovered more comfy counting calories because could vary flavore but not guilty if over because 80 cal hotdog is 14 points this year .
Also learned drinking more wayer actually helps like my fitness encourages you to do ww used to tell you and track that but not this years.
I apologize if anyone things im being negitive im a ww fan still it used to be the way that worked for me but myfitness is so much better and not sacrificing food money to get the app support less then three months ww is one year my fitness ( right now usibg free version but intend to purchase)
So long story short im finding it better here and loosing and keeping it off no more yoyoing up and down . we van do togethet

Just my two cents here, but I think Weight Watchers can have value, and I hate to hear it dismissed as a scam. I've lost weight on WW, and I've also lost weight on MFP.

Any program or system that motivate you to better eating habits is good. But at the end it is ourselves to decide which work

perkymommy wrote: »

DoreenaV1975 wrote: »

I heard they consider fruits and veggies "free".... um those have calories so how can one lose weight w/out accounting for those calories.

They start accumulating points for their calories once you eat over the amount allotted. If I eat an apple it is considered 0 points but if I sat and ate several apples they would start to accumulate points, same with any other fruits but you'd have to eat a lot. And only some veggies have no points like carrots and broccoli, even though they have calories. It has to reach a certain caloric amount (somewhere between 50-70) in order for the food item to start having points so yes there are some things that have calories (low calories) that are 0 points if that makes sense. Any veggies that are canned have points but they are usually low.

That's not true. Fruits and vegetables never start accumulating points. And canned/jarred vegetables and fruits (in water or juice, not syrup) are free too. You can eat 26 apples and it's still 0 points. You can eat 14 cans of green beans and they're still 0 points.