Learning Paleo
reneeroberson334
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Can anyone help me get started learning what to eat and not eat on paleo, I need the strict version to lose weight.
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Renee
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Renee
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Have you tried Whole30? It's an extension of Paleo but even stricter. It's well worth doing if you can cope with it as it's only for a month so not only do you lose some weight but you also learn what foods cause headaches, joint pain, bloating etc. It basically follows Paleo principles with a few extra rules thrown in.x1
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To lose weight you need a calorie deficit. You can eat anything you want. You may want to look at your diet composition to make sticking to the calorie deficit easier, but to lose weight, all you need is said deficit. Have you tried logging your food in the diary here?3
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You don't have to do Paleo to lose weight.1
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See marksdailyapple.com for the primal version of paleo, its not so strict though but it does allow for flexibility
Not sure why you need the strict version to lose weight, paleo isn't necessarily about losing weight but some people have had success with weight loss. Some people don't lose weight on paleo because they still eat too much...0 -
Paleo and keto are not weight loss diets, they're a way of eating. You still need to eat at a calorie deficit to lose weight.
That being said, I've been on a keto diet for almost three months now and I've experienced some positive side effects.
It is true that, when you cut carbs out of the equation, you'll have an initial weight loss. Sometimes drastic. I lost 12-13lvs in the first three days. This is all retained water weight.
After that, you will level off and it is just like any other way of eating as far as weight loss goes. Keto tends to curb hunger in many people, so that can help with avoiding extra calories. But Paleo and keto are not a magical weight loss diet.2 -
drwilseyjr wrote: »Paleo and keto are not weight loss diets, they're a way of eating. You still need to eat at a calorie deficit to lose weight.
That being said, I've been on a keto diet for almost three months now and I've experienced some positive side effects.
It is true that, when you cut carbs out of the equation, you'll have an initial weight loss. Sometimes drastic. I lost 12-13lvs in the first three days. This is all retained water weight.
After that, you will level off and it is just like any other way of eating as far as weight loss goes. Keto tends to curb hunger in many people, so that can help with avoiding extra calories. But Paleo and keto are not a magical weight loss diet.
This.
And there are whole blogs and websites that are dedicated to paleo. I've only browsed through mark's daily apple, and as mentioned before, he's not strict. But I'm sure there are tons of others. I think Robb Wolf was one of the original paleo enthusiasts, so he might be stricter, but I'm not actually sure.2 -
Eat a bunch of grubs and such I would guess.1
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drwilseyjr wrote: »Paleo and keto are not weight loss diets, they're a way of eating. You still need to eat at a calorie deficit to lose weight.
Yes, this.
Typically, though, paleo means no grains (no bread or pasta, no rice, no corn, no oats, etc.), no legumes (this includes peanuts), and no dairy. Also no added sugar. It has nothing to do with macro balance--usually it's recommended to eat more carbs if you are more active and less if you are not, with sweet potatoes, potatoes, plantains, yuca, and other starchy veg not excluded being sources of carbs, as well as fruit.
I don't agree with the premises for excluding all of the things paleo does (or with W30). IMO, legumes, especially, but also whole grains and dairy, can really contribute to an overall healthy diet, and the premise that people didn't eat these foods until after the paleo period is wrong and wouldn't matter anyway.
I think some people find it a blueprint to improving their diets and eating more homecooked foods and vegetables, but you can (and IMO should) do that without excluding these other foods. I do like that paleo stresses sourcing and eating the whole animal (although IME those aspects are often the least paid-attention to by those who do it, and again one can do them without giving up lentils and yogurt).3 -
There is a forum on here for low carb/paleo. I will try and see if there is a way to post the link. I find paleo easier to stick to when starting out. But, like mentioned above, it's not a diet. It needs to be your new normal. I allow myself some carbs from natural sources like fruits and veggies as they offer a health benefit. There isn't much to gain, if anything, from pasta, bread, rice etc. So for ME....those are easy sources of empty calories to cut. And I FEEL better eating this way. But yes, eating at a deficit is still required to lose weight.
Basic principles, if you can grow it or kill it, you can eat it. It's not quite that simple, but it is a pretty safe guideline to follow.1 -
Mirabelle1983 wrote: »Have you tried Whole30? It's an extension of Paleo but even stricter. It's well worth doing if you can cope with it as it's only for a month so not only do you lose some weight but you also learn what foods cause headaches, joint pain, bloating etc. It basically follows Paleo principles with a few extra rules thrown in.x
whole30, of course, wasn't designed as a weight loss diet, but sure.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »drwilseyjr wrote: »Paleo and keto are not weight loss diets, they're a way of eating. You still need to eat at a calorie deficit to lose weight.
Yes, this.
Typically, though, paleo means no grains (no bread or pasta, no rice, no corn, no oats, etc.), no legumes (this includes peanuts), and no dairy. Also no added sugar. It has nothing to do with macro balance--usually it's recommended to eat more carbs if you are more active and less if you are not, with sweet potatoes, potatoes, plantains, yuca, and other starchy veg not excluded being sources of carbs, as well as fruit.
I don't agree with the premises for excluding all of the things paleo does (or with W30). IMO, legumes, especially, but also whole grains and dairy, can really contribute to an overall healthy diet, and the premise that people didn't eat these foods until after the paleo period is wrong and wouldn't matter anyway.
I think some people find it a blueprint to improving their diets and eating more homecooked foods and vegetables, but you can (and IMO should) do that without excluding these other foods. I do like that paleo stresses sourcing and eating the whole animal (although IME those aspects are often the least paid-attention to by those who do it, and again one can do them without giving up lentils and yogurt).
I'm fine with W30 when it's done for the reason it was designed.0 -
Op, if you're interested in learning about paleo/primal, this group probably has info:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/37-primal-paleo-support-group0 -
reneeroberson334 wrote: »Can anyone help me get started learning what to eat and not eat on paleo, I need the strict version to lose weight.
Thanks
Renee
why do you need to eat paleo to lose weight?
there is no strict or loose version (unless of course you follow it loosely, then you're not really eating paleo though)
The basic principle of paleo is that if a food item wasn’t eaten thousands of years ago, pre-agriculture, DON'T EAT IT. That right there eliminates all processed foods, as well as grains, legumes and sugars. Dairy is debatable, though pure primal plans ban dairy.
It encourages you to think natural. The more natural, the more close to the original source, the better. You also tend to reduce caloric intake, even without calorie counting.
Eating according to the paleo lifestyle you can expect to eat high fiber, lots of healthy fats, fruits n vegetables, and drink lots of water. Meals tend to be very nutrient dense and filling.
I have followed a paleo-esq lifestyle for close to 2 years now. It's how my body functions best, but it is surely not one to jump into in order to lose weight.2 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Mirabelle1983 wrote: »Have you tried Whole30? It's an extension of Paleo but even stricter. It's well worth doing if you can cope with it as it's only for a month so not only do you lose some weight but you also learn what foods cause headaches, joint pain, bloating etc. It basically follows Paleo principles with a few extra rules thrown in.x
whole30, of course, wasn't designed as a weight loss diet, but sure.
I know Whole30 wasn't designed as weight loss diet, but you can lose weight on it quite well. The OP wanted a strict version of Paleo - Whole30 in my opinion is just that.
It's also mind opening on learning what works with your body.. you can stick with it or follow a more loose Paleo approach after.0 -
Mirabelle1983 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Mirabelle1983 wrote: »Have you tried Whole30? It's an extension of Paleo but even stricter. It's well worth doing if you can cope with it as it's only for a month so not only do you lose some weight but you also learn what foods cause headaches, joint pain, bloating etc. It basically follows Paleo principles with a few extra rules thrown in.x
whole30, of course, wasn't designed as a weight loss diet, but sure.
I know Whole30 wasn't designed as weight loss diet, but you can lose weight on it quite well. The OP wanted a strict version of Paleo - Whole30 in my opinion is just that.
It's also mind opening on learning what works with your body.. you can stick with it or follow a more loose Paleo approach after.
Or slowly lose your mind.
I had friends that participated in Whole30, well one more successfully than the other. It is definitely very strict and a great way to learn how certain foods impact your body, the one friend found that she was gluten intolerant (I've seen the rashes after bread, she's not faking it). I couldn't do it because it cut out foods that would lead to bigger cravings. Cheese. I couldn't make it without cheese and ice cream. 0 -
Mirabelle1983 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Mirabelle1983 wrote: »Have you tried Whole30? It's an extension of Paleo but even stricter. It's well worth doing if you can cope with it as it's only for a month so not only do you lose some weight but you also learn what foods cause headaches, joint pain, bloating etc. It basically follows Paleo principles with a few extra rules thrown in.x
whole30, of course, wasn't designed as a weight loss diet, but sure.
I know Whole30 wasn't designed as weight loss diet, but you can lose weight on it quite well. The OP wanted a strict version of Paleo - Whole30 in my opinion is just that.
It's also mind opening on learning what works with your body.. you can stick with it or follow a more loose Paleo approach after.
I think it's a bit of a baptism by fire, but to each their own.0 -
[Mirabelle1983 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Mirabelle1983 wrote: »Have you tried Whole30? It's an extension of Paleo but even stricter. It's well worth doing if you can cope with it as it's only for a month so not only do you lose some weight but you also learn what foods cause headaches, joint pain, bloating etc. It basically follows Paleo principles with a few extra rules thrown in.x
whole30, of course, wasn't designed as a weight loss diet, but sure.
I know Whole30 wasn't designed as weight loss diet, but you can lose weight on it quite well. The OP wanted a strict version of Paleo - Whole30 in my opinion is just that.
It's also mind opening on learning what works with your body.. you can stick with it or follow a more loose Paleo approach after.
Or slowly lose your mind. I had friends that participated in Whole30, well one more successfully than the other. It is definitely very strict and a great way to learn how certain foods impact your body, the one friend found that she was gluten intolerant (I've seen the rashes after bread, she's not faking it). I couldn't do it because it cut out foods that would lead to bigger cravings. Cheese. I couldn't make it without cheese and ice cream.
I can see where you're coming from.. I found it more difficult than I expected but for reasons I also didn't expect.. Sugar cravings were technically gone (for what I used to eat) but I found myself eating fruit to excess.. it just started to taste so good! And I really struggled not being able to have dairy in my tea or coffee.. but it was a learning curve. I did learn what food gives me headaches bloating and joint pain, and what is fine for me (dairy! yay) and I did learn when my body was really hungry (not often) before Whole30 I really didn't have a clue so it was useful to me and I lost a small amount of weight in the process.. needless to say I'm following a more loose approach to my eating habits now though!0 -
reneeroberson334 wrote: »Can anyone help me get started learning what to eat and not eat on paleo, I need the strict version to lose weight.
Thanks
Renee
Why do you "need the strict version to lose weight"? Is this a way of eating that you want to continue for life?
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reneeroberson334 wrote: »Can anyone help me get started learning what to eat and not eat on paleo, I need the strict version to lose weight.
Thanks
Renee
Paleo won't help you lose weight. Being in a caloric deficit will help you lose weight.0 -
Paleo will absolutely help you lose weight the post above is totally inaccurate. I am doing a modified paleo lifestyle and would love more people to talk to. Feel free to add me!0
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M_on_the_run wrote: »Paleo will absolutely help you lose weight the post above is totally inaccurate. I am doing a modified paleo lifestyle and would love more people to talk to. Feel free to add me!
really now....I know lots who gained on it.
being in a calorie deficit is for weight loss Paleo is a WOE and if not counting calories too very easy to gain on it.0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »drwilseyjr wrote: »Paleo and keto are not weight loss diets, they're a way of eating. You still need to eat at a calorie deficit to lose weight.
Yes, this.
Typically, though, paleo means no grains (no bread or pasta, no rice, no corn, no oats, etc.), no legumes (this includes peanuts), and no dairy. Also no added sugar. It has nothing to do with macro balance--usually it's recommended to eat more carbs if you are more active and less if you are not, with sweet potatoes, potatoes, plantains, yuca, and other starchy veg not excluded being sources of carbs, as well as fruit.
I don't agree with the premises for excluding all of the things paleo does (or with W30). IMO, legumes, especially, but also whole grains and dairy, can really contribute to an overall healthy diet, and the premise that people didn't eat these foods until after the paleo period is wrong and wouldn't matter anyway.
I think some people find it a blueprint to improving their diets and eating more homecooked foods and vegetables, but you can (and IMO should) do that without excluding these other foods. I do like that paleo stresses sourcing and eating the whole animal (although IME those aspects are often the least paid-attention to by those who do it, and again one can do them without giving up lentils and yogurt).
I'm fine with W30 when it's done for the reason it was designed.
I don't think it's the best approach for even that, but on the whole I agree.0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Op, if you're interested in learning about paleo/primal, this group probably has info:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/37-primal-paleo-support-group
Thanks for linking the right group. I should have. I wish people would stop conflating paleo and low carb, as there's nothing inherently low carb about paleo. (I know a variety of crossfitters who do it and are not low carb.)0 -
M_on_the_run wrote: »Paleo will absolutely help you lose weight the post above is totally inaccurate. I am doing a modified paleo lifestyle and would love more people to talk to. Feel free to add me!
You will lose weight on a paleo diet: As long as it creates a caloric deficit. That's the only reason.
I'm doing a high carb, lots of processed food diet, and lost 50lbs already, and am in maintenance now. So, is a high carb, lots of processed food diet the reason why, or was it the caloric deficit?2 -
coreyreichle wrote: »M_on_the_run wrote: »Paleo will absolutely help you lose weight the post above is totally inaccurate. I am doing a modified paleo lifestyle and would love more people to talk to. Feel free to add me!
You will lose weight on a paleo diet: As long as it creates a caloric deficit. That's the only reason.
I'm doing a high carb, lots of processed food diet, and lost 50lbs already, and am in maintenance now. So, is a high carb, lots of processed food diet the reason why, or was it the caloric deficit?
Lol - are you on every primal inspired thread to harp on about calories?!0 -
Some great points here! I've done some paleo challenges and I did lean out a bit and felt great..but I felt it was not sustainable and I didn't have the same performance in the gym because I was probably not eating enough fats. I saw some people mention that people don't lose weight because they eat too much...possibly, but from what seen people don't enough while on paleo simply because it takes prep work and can be expensive. This calorie deficit along with low carbs and low fats will slow the metabolism down...not to mention will effect energy levels in the gym. The bottom line on a paleo like diet..eat lots of meats, veggies, fats and good carbs then lift weights and get the heart rate up once in awhile . If you can maintain this type of lifestyle you will be in the best shape of your life...and I would do 21 days strict then adopt a 80/20 diet..allow yourselves some cheat meals to stay sane.0
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