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The Sugar Conspiracy
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stevencloser wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Is that low carb and gluten free?
The bleach. Most definitely.
The donut? Do you care?
LOL.
Why would I ever want to eat a kale donut?
I'm sure it has lots of fibre, even though it likely tastes like *babytoads*.
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snickerscharlie wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Is that low carb and gluten free?
The bleach. Most definitely.
The donut? Do you care?
LOL.
Why would I ever want to eat a kale donut?
I'm sure it has lots of fibre, even though it likely tastes like *babytoads*.
See what you started? :sick:
Any you can't even get the right *babysloth* filth filter swap correct :laugh:
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I may print the photo of the kale donut and put it on my fridge. That may be the most power appetite suppressant I've ever found.4
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MissusMoon wrote: »I may print the photo of the kale donut and put it on my fridge. That may be the most power appetite suppressant I've ever found.
Those kale cookies and fish cupcakes are pretty bad too.2 -
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I never realized kale was the key ingredient to turn everything into a St Patricks day theme3
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paulgads82 wrote: »
I raise you a kale and apple cake.
Oh gawd that literally made me gag. Someone pass the brain bleach!0 -
I read, and enjoyed, Lustig's book. It's worth it just for the in depth description of how the human metabolism works. He does not say we need to cut out all sugar. He only says we need to educate ourselves on how much sugar we are taking in and lower it to a reasonable level. He found that doing this helped his many patients, sick children either with endocrine problems due to cancer or chronic obesity, etc. Many of these children were lower income and their parents were not educated on nutrition and bought what was covered by food stamps (that's another "conspiracy" in itself). Too much sugar messes with your hunger/full hormones and is a contributor to chronic obesity.
I wonder how many people who call Lustig some kind of maniac actually bothered to read his extremely well researched and interesting book...which again does not say you can't ever eat sugar for the rest of your life.7 -
You read the book but did you read the thread?6
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KombuchaKat wrote: »I read, and enjoyed, Lustig's book. It's worth it just for the in depth description of how the human metabolism works. He does not say we need to cut out all sugar. He only says we need to educate ourselves on how much sugar we are taking in and lower it to a reasonable level. He found that doing this helped his many patients, sick children either with endocrine problems due to cancer or chronic obesity, etc. Many of these children were lower income and their parents were not educated on nutrition and bought what was covered by food stamps (that's another "conspiracy" in itself). Too much sugar messes with your hunger/full hormones and is a contributor to chronic obesity.
I wonder how many people who call Lustig some kind of maniac actually bothered to read his extremely well researched and interesting book...which again does not say you can't ever eat sugar for the rest of your life.
Lustig, the man who can't decide if he thinks if Fructose is toxic for you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ6LhzCrPpk
Lustig, the man who apparently once said that sugar is somehow fat and carbs in one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7QXFJNKWXs
Are we talking about the same Robert Lustig here?7 -
Lol at the look on the interviewer's face ~40 seconds into the first video
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KombuchaKat wrote: »I read, and enjoyed, Lustig's book. It's worth it just for the in depth description of how the human metabolism works. He does not say we need to cut out all sugar. He only says we need to educate ourselves on how much sugar we are taking in and lower it to a reasonable level. He found that doing this helped his many patients, sick children either with endocrine problems due to cancer or chronic obesity, etc. Many of these children were lower income and their parents were not educated on nutrition and bought what was covered by food stamps (that's another "conspiracy" in itself). Too much sugar messes with your hunger/full hormones and is a contributor to chronic obesity.
I wonder how many people who call Lustig some kind of maniac actually bothered to read his extremely well researched and interesting book...which again does not say you can't ever eat sugar for the rest of your life.
What's the food stamps conspiracy? When I was on food stamps I would buy fresh or frozen fruits and vegetables and whole foods like nobody's business. I would get jokes from the clerks and bag boys about how I must be planning to live forever. So I'm curious about what's the conspiracy?
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KombuchaKat wrote: »I read, and enjoyed, Lustig's book. It's worth it just for the in depth description of how the human metabolism works. He does not say we need to cut out all sugar. He only says we need to educate ourselves on how much sugar we are taking in and lower it to a reasonable level. He found that doing this helped his many patients, sick children either with endocrine problems due to cancer or chronic obesity, etc. Many of these children were lower income and their parents were not educated on nutrition and bought what was covered by food stamps (that's another "conspiracy" in itself). Too much sugar messes with your hunger/full hormones and is a contributor to chronic obesity.
I wonder how many people who call Lustig some kind of maniac actually bothered to read his extremely well researched and interesting book...which again does not say you can't ever eat sugar for the rest of your life.
If all Lustig claimed were that we should reduce sugar to a reasonable level to help improve our health, I'd be on board. But instead he demonizes a single component of our diet, blaming obesity almost entirely on sugar, and ignores or minimizes other contributing factors. He doesn't always use solid science to do this.
Alan Aragon breaks down Lustig's claims in his YouTube documentary about sugar with peer reviewed studies:
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/5 -
mskessler89 wrote: »paulgads82 wrote: »
I raise you a kale and apple cake.
Oh gawd that literally made me gag. Someone pass the brain bleach!
Get in line for it! I got dibs if Steven leaves any
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KombuchaKat wrote: »I read, and enjoyed, Lustig's book. It's worth it just for the in depth description of how the human metabolism works. He does not say we need to cut out all sugar. He only says we need to educate ourselves on how much sugar we are taking in and lower it to a reasonable level. He found that doing this helped his many patients, sick children either with endocrine problems due to cancer or chronic obesity, etc. Many of these children were lower income and their parents were not educated on nutrition and bought what was covered by food stamps (that's another "conspiracy" in itself). Too much sugar messes with your hunger/full hormones and is a contributor to chronic obesity.
I wonder how many people who call Lustig some kind of maniac actually bothered to read his extremely well researched and interesting book...which again does not say you can't ever eat sugar for the rest of your life.
What's the food stamps conspiracy? When I was on food stamps I would buy fresh or frozen fruits and vegetables and whole foods like nobody's business. I would get jokes from the clerks and bag boys about how I must be planning to live forever. So I'm curious about what's the conspiracy?
They are even currently pushing for use of SNAP at farmers markets.
Here's one local program: http://www.greencitymarket.org/programs/program.asp?id=151 -
The_Enginerd wrote: »Seriously, keep kale out of my treats. Or my everything.
They have added sugar. Kale cookies are officially da debil!!!
But its coconut sugar, that probably doesn't count as rEEEEaly Eeeeevil sugar.
Sorrry, late to the party.
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mskessler89 wrote: »paulgads82 wrote: »
I raise you a kale and apple cake.
Oh gawd that literally made me gag. Someone pass the brain bleach!
This cake is horrible.
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mskessler89 wrote: »KombuchaKat wrote: »I read, and enjoyed, Lustig's book. It's worth it just for the in depth description of how the human metabolism works. He does not say we need to cut out all sugar. He only says we need to educate ourselves on how much sugar we are taking in and lower it to a reasonable level. He found that doing this helped his many patients, sick children either with endocrine problems due to cancer or chronic obesity, etc. Many of these children were lower income and their parents were not educated on nutrition and bought what was covered by food stamps (that's another "conspiracy" in itself). Too much sugar messes with your hunger/full hormones and is a contributor to chronic obesity.
I wonder how many people who call Lustig some kind of maniac actually bothered to read his extremely well researched and interesting book...which again does not say you can't ever eat sugar for the rest of your life.
If all Lustig claimed were that we should reduce sugar to a reasonable level to help improve our health, I'd be on board. But instead he demonizes a single component of our diet, blaming obesity almost entirely on sugar, and ignores or minimizes other contributing factors. He doesn't always use solid science to do this.
Alan Aragon breaks down Lustig's claims in his YouTube documentary about sugar with peer reviewed studies:
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
I think demonize is a harsh word. He explains why too much sugar causes havoc in your metabolism. I feel like there is ample evidence that it does in the amounts many Americans eat it. Also, I have read the book so I do not feel the need to read a break down of it.2 -
KombuchaKat wrote: »I read, and enjoyed, Lustig's book. It's worth it just for the in depth description of how the human metabolism works. He does not say we need to cut out all sugar. He only says we need to educate ourselves on how much sugar we are taking in and lower it to a reasonable level. He found that doing this helped his many patients, sick children either with endocrine problems due to cancer or chronic obesity, etc. Many of these children were lower income and their parents were not educated on nutrition and bought what was covered by food stamps (that's another "conspiracy" in itself). Too much sugar messes with your hunger/full hormones and is a contributor to chronic obesity.
I wonder how many people who call Lustig some kind of maniac actually bothered to read his extremely well researched and interesting book...which again does not say you can't ever eat sugar for the rest of your life.
What's the food stamps conspiracy? When I was on food stamps I would buy fresh or frozen fruits and vegetables and whole foods like nobody's business. I would get jokes from the clerks and bag boys about how I must be planning to live forever. So I'm curious about what's the conspiracy?
Since I've never been on food stamps I am not an expert, so perhaps this is not something I should have brought up. I am making generalizations that I certainly am not qualified to make and I apologize.3 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Is that low carb and gluten free?
The bleach. Most definitely.
The donut? Do you care?
LOL.
Why would I ever want to eat a kale donut?
I'm sure it has lots of fibre, even though it likely tastes like *babytoads*.
See what you started? :sick:
Any you can't even get the right *babysloth* filth filter swap correct :laugh:
You do you.
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