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Will You Let it Eat You Alive?
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Back in the '80s I was the same as OP until I realised I was going to be the fittest corpse in the graveyard.2
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Someone has to be concerned about the future of Our Planet Earth for our children's children. There is no Planet B. One person can do their part in their own way, and if we all try we can leave a better planet to the future generations. Educate yourself, buying Organic is not just about avoiding Cancer.2
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CycleCoast42 wrote: »Someone has to be concerned about the future of Our Planet Earth for our children's children. There is no Planet B. One person can do their part in their own way, and if we all try we can leave a better planet to the future generations. Educate yourself, buying Organic is not just about avoiding Cancer.
Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember anyone saying that he or she is NOT concerned about our planet.
Many people simply do not have the resources to always buy organic. I think that fact was discussed in the OP.
In fact, she discussed how challenging it is to always TRY to do the "right" thing. Are we reading the same thread?3 -
CycleCoast42 wrote: »Someone has to be concerned about the future of Our Planet Earth for our children's children. There is no Planet B. One person can do their part in their own way, and if we all try we can leave a better planet to the future generations. Educate yourself, buying Organic is not just about avoiding Cancer.
High density farming (not organic) saves water resources and feeds more humans per square foot. Saving the earth via organic is a whole other topic that doesn't belong on this amazing, wonderful thread.9 -
CycleCoast42 wrote: »Someone has to be concerned about the future of Our Planet Earth for our children's children. There is no Planet B. One person can do their part in their own way, and if we all try we can leave a better planet to the future generations. Educate yourself, buying Organic is not just about avoiding Cancer.
That's one reason I don't have children. It's also a smaller part of why I don't eat meat.1 -
You could eat the cleanest diet in the world work out till your blue in the face and still get hit by a bus, die of cancer etc etc.....in my opinion and my experience that perfect weight bf% dosent exist if your obsessed and that's a shame
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I would say that when someone continues to bring up the subject or create opportunities to say "don't eat it! It'll kill you!! Toxins!! Remove all sugar from your diet!!" and continues to boldly proclaim these things as though they're true and eliminating what they did is necessary for health and/or weight loss despite all the voices saying that it isn't necessary and providing them with credible sources of information which demonstrate the error in their claims, that person is acting as a radical evangelist for their cause.
Here's a simple test I learned. Ask the person, "What would it take to change your mind about X?" If the answer is "Nothing, my mind's made up," then they've left their critical reasoning behind and are operating from emotion.
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CycleCoast42 wrote: »Someone has to be concerned about the future of Our Planet Earth for our children's children. There is no Planet B. One person can do their part in their own way, and if we all try we can leave a better planet to the future generations. Educate yourself, buying Organic is not just about avoiding Cancer.
My biggest concern over buying organic is the lack of follow up from the government to assure me that when I am paying $X amount of dollars for something that SAYS it is organic, I can know that it is 100% organic. I used to pay more for Horizon milk, because it was supposedly 100% organic. Then Dean's Foods took over and surprise...it may not actually truly really be organic. And I cannot buy at a farmer's market all the time and even that I don't know if they're REALLY organic or not. Come on...people have lied to make a profit for years.
I'm not against buying organic when I can, and when I can afford it, but I am against being duped into buying psuedo-organic food.
Right now the only "organic" labeled food I buy on purpose is Stonyfield Farms Organic Yogurt, not because I care that it's organic, but it's the ONLY yogurt I actually LIKE that does not have artificial sweeteners in it.1 -
CycleCoast42 wrote: »Someone has to be concerned about the future of Our Planet Earth for our children's children. There is no Planet B. One person can do their part in their own way, and if we all try we can leave a better planet to the future generations. Educate yourself, buying Organic is not just about avoiding Cancer.
My biggest concern over buying organic is the lack of follow up from the government to assure me that when I am paying $X amount of dollars for something that SAYS it is organic, I can know that it is 100% organic. I used to pay more for Horizon milk, because it was supposedly 100% organic. Then Dean's Foods took over and surprise...it may not actually truly really be organic. And I cannot buy at a farmer's market all the time and even that I don't know if they're REALLY organic or not. Come on...people have lied to make a profit for years.
I'm not against buying organic when I can, and when I can afford it, but I am against being duped into buying psuedo-organic food.
Right now the only "organic" labeled food I buy on purpose is Stonyfield Farms Organic Yogurt, not because I care that it's organic, but it's the ONLY yogurt I actually LIKE that does not have artificial sweeteners in it.
I've seen a lot of posts on MFP from people that seem to think that all produce at a Farmer's Market is grown organically. In my experience most of it is not. I even had one experience with a farmer at the market who said her produce was grown organically then later in the conversation said she used Sevin. Honestly IDK if Sevin is approved as organic by the FDA but she said she thought the definition of organic was "home grown".1 -
^YES!!! Some may not deliberately lie, but some may not even know what constitutes organic farming anyway. I would rather buy direct from a local farmer when I can regardless, but to assume it's organic is foolish.2
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Think of all the juicer machines gathering dust...
I *almost* drank the Koolaid after watching "Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead" a couple years ago, but thankfully I did not buy a $400 juicer.
Great post, OP.
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^YES!!! Some may not deliberately lie, but some may not even know what constitutes organic farming anyway. I would rather buy direct from a local farmer when I can regardless, but to assume it's organic is foolish.
Yeah, me too. I grow most of our vegetables but I still visit the Farmer's Market to see what they have. Local and fresh tastes better.0 -
I also choose the farmers market (and a CSA) because of the local aspect and that I like to support small farmers (my grandparents were, so this is largely sentimental).0
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Agreed. I happen to be at one of my local farmer's markets every week for other reasons, and one day I went around to the various farms that sell produce and inquired about whether they were organic or not. Out of 4 farms I asked, it was split 50-50 between the farms that were organic and the ones that weren't.Need2Exerc1se wrote: »CycleCoast42 wrote: »Someone has to be concerned about the future of Our Planet Earth for our children's children. There is no Planet B. One person can do their part in their own way, and if we all try we can leave a better planet to the future generations. Educate yourself, buying Organic is not just about avoiding Cancer.
My biggest concern over buying organic is the lack of follow up from the government to assure me that when I am paying $X amount of dollars for something that SAYS it is organic, I can know that it is 100% organic. I used to pay more for Horizon milk, because it was supposedly 100% organic. Then Dean's Foods took over and surprise...it may not actually truly really be organic. And I cannot buy at a farmer's market all the time and even that I don't know if they're REALLY organic or not. Come on...people have lied to make a profit for years.
I'm not against buying organic when I can, and when I can afford it, but I am against being duped into buying psuedo-organic food.
Right now the only "organic" labeled food I buy on purpose is Stonyfield Farms Organic Yogurt, not because I care that it's organic, but it's the ONLY yogurt I actually LIKE that does not have artificial sweeteners in it.
I've seen a lot of posts on MFP from people that seem to think that all produce at a Farmer's Market is grown organically. In my experience most of it is not. I even had one experience with a farmer at the market who said her produce was grown organically then later in the conversation said she used Sevin. Honestly IDK if Sevin is approved as organic by the FDA but she said she thought the definition of organic was "home grown".
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....aaand it's derailed.0
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