poor body image (jealous over smaller/petite/more delicate women), hard to keep motivated
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ElizabethOakes2 wrote: »Little petite girls... always have the advantage? Until it comes to... Reaching stuff on the top shelf of the grocery store *Excuse me, ma'am, I don't know you but can you hand me that peanut butter*, changing our own tires (I bet you've never once had to stand on the lug wrench handle and jump up and down to get the lug nuts loose.), chopping firewood (*Put your muscles behind it, girl!* 'I did...', rearranging the living room, (I need a furniture dolly just to move stuff to vacuum.)
Sure, we might have the 'little petite advantage' of being seen as desirable to others, but when it comes to the real stuff, the important stuff, the stuff that REALLY matters in life? Believe me, you big strong girls will survive the zombie apocalypse, and we'll just be corpses at the door.
But you guys can charm big strong men into doing all of that stuff for you
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Yeah, comparison really is the killer of happiness.
It's funny sometimes that we're so busy in our own heads, cursing our own lot, that we forget that there are people admiring US for what WE have.
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I think we all want what we can't have. You look gorgeous in your photo and should be proud that you live an active lifestyle. Remember, skinny doesn't mean healthy. My wife's bigger than yourself, similar body type and I love her to death. I don't think skinny girls have an advantage, they just have a different group of people who like that body style. I've got zero interest in a girl whose body resembles that of a young teenage boy. Not that there is anything wrong with being skinny, I just don't like the look. I prefer curves and I know many men/women who feel the same way. So just think of it as you are just different, not advantaged or disadvantaged, just different. Keep being active and try not to put so much stock on the body type, its more about healthiness! I'd much rather be stocky and alive than skinny and dead!1
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Im about 4'11" and spend alot of time climbing in the coolers at the grocery store to reach my yogurt..the top cupboards in my kitchen are just about empty..i get called tiny now alot (wierd) but i have to say if i ever got called delicate...id staple my butt to my bowflex until christmas.11
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I am not sure what advantage petite women have over us. I say us because I am a 5'11" amazonian myself. I wear size 12 shoes and have always had shoulders hips and a butt that could knock over a toddler if I am not careful.
Yes, they are smaller and might have an easier time finding long enough pants (although they tend to have to hem them, so we have the same struggle as these other ladies just on opposite ends of the spectrum) but that doesn't mean any one of them is better than you for any reason.
Are you the only one who has put yourself down like this? Or have other people made rude and judgmental comments about your stature? Maybe you should consider where those comments are coming from, a lot of people are insecure and project that onto others in hopes of making themselves feel better - and they don't realize the consequences it has.
I think that losing the weight is important if it will improve your overall health. I also think that, given your comments it would be vital to also work on your self love. It's very strange but in my personal situation I am much more accepting of my body now at 248lbs then when I was 148lbs all because of the work I have put into my self esteem and self acceptance.2 -
I think too many women judge other women. Too many women internally have such hate filled negative self talk and dialogue. Yes, therapy or even journal what spurred you at that moment to put a thinner petite girl on a pedestal and label yourself as a "huge moose" your words.
I think maybe supportive friends that don't cut you or other women up and gossip are key. If you were to describe your sister, daughter or friend, I am sure you wouldn't say "huge moose" but to ourselves, we don't have that same sort of love and respect.
I know I need to lose weight. I am being so active and still the scale doesn't budge much and I have a crap metabolism and insulin resistance.
Honor what you love3 about your body. Start small. Amazing wavy hair, strong hands, clear alert sparkling eyes.....then approach the problem zones a more tolerant, if you can't love them all just yet, attitude. Read the Book Full by Kimber Simpkins about a yoga teacher who hated her body but learned to love it and find peace with it. It is not new agey and preachy, it just shows you this one woman's struggle to accept herself and honor her parts and to slowly stop criticizing herself. She, like all of us, was her own worst enemy.
Example, If you have big feet, like me, I used to call them boats. Now I say, I need them to be balanced and keep all of this hot stuff in motion. You can't have tiny little china doll feet on a work horse like me. My friend Lisa is a dainty little thing and she has different strengths than me and vice versa. This is what makes the world go round other wise we all are the same, nothing is unique and appreciated and we all get wiped out when the Zombie Apocalypse hits.
Maybe I am bigger so I can carry Lisa, or my dog, or my 6 year old!
Therapy would help give you a different perspective on how to look at things.
Wishing you Well!
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PrincessTinyheart wrote: »(I could go on and on about the negative crap disguised as "realistic helpful advice" from my family, but I won't... it's mostly just hearing things like "little petite girls will always have the advantage so just learn to accept it"... yeah, mental poison to be sure, but it sticks with you)
I'm really curious... what advantages to being petite are they talking about? Getting hit in the face by elbows or run into because people just don't see you? Having to jump onto counters to get things out of cabinets? Top shelves being a complete mystery (I mean, who knows what's up there)? Having to jump to get into a work truck (and having to kind of slide to get back out)? People singing you the Lollipop Guild song and/or calling you a munchkin? Don't get me wrong, I like being short. I'm adorable. But I'll never be "hot" with legs that go on for miles. These days I'm mostly concerned about having to shop in the kids section...
Self-esteem is more internal than external in my opinion. Work on your outside of course, but work on your inside view of yourself too. Be kind to yourself and avoid these kinds of conversations with your family.
PS - "Little petite girls"? It sounds like they don't have much respect for petite women anyway.8 -
I'm sorry you feel this way, and I hope you can find a way to love yourself for who and what you are rather than always feeling you come off worse in comparison to others!
Me, I'm stuck in the middle - at 5'6" and currently 190lbs I feel huge next to petite women and stumpy next to tall ones. And like many others have said, the grass is always greener on the other side. Sometimes it seems like everyone wants to be something they can never be, rather than making the best of what they are. I wonder myself if I'll actually be happier when I'm thinner or if I'll still hate bits of myself, but at least I'll be healthier and that's worth it! Losing weight and improving my health is possible, unlike changing my height. I can work on the loving myself part as I go along, and it's already becoming easier the more pounds I lose.
You listed this lady on your profile as one of your inspirations, and she's certainly not petite and delicate - I always loved her and wanted to be like her, so go for it! (She is always the figure that comes to mind when I hear the word "Amazon".) I bet you could rock an outfit like this one day soon!
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I can relate to your feelings OP as I'm 5'9" and even when I was as low as 125 I wasn't "delicate", I'm straight as a ruler at that weight but I still look like I could pull the plow iykwim. Really all you can do is become the best version of yourself though, there's no point in wishing to be shorter and smaller boned given that neither surgery nor a deficit the size of Texas can give you either. Embrace being able to reach all the top shelves without assistance1
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Everyone always wants to be bigger smaller taller thinner fatter fitter quieter louder...better bum, bigger boobs, smaller boobs, bigger lips, better teeth, smaller hips, different nose, freckles, no freckles!!
Everyone feels this way about something at least once in there lives. Nope, we're never happy with our lot. But most people learn to be. And the things we can - we change.
IMO you seriously need to do some work on self love. Learn to love yourself regardless because you only get one body. All the surgery in the world won't change your natural self or the way you feel. For what it's worth you look gorgeous and there ain't nothing wrong with being tall/broad!
Just think that someone somewhere wants to be just like you whilst you're wishing you could be like someone else. Seems silly doesn't it? Rock what you are, what you have and give it all you got.5 -
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There is something beautiful in all body types. You can't change your skeleton, you can just be in the best shape for the body you have. While some people do like the petite look for women, there are a lot of people that really like a taller woman that isn't petite.
I had a girlfriend that was 5'10" 188 pounds and ran marathons. When she got dressed up she had men drooling. I suspect she is similar to you. She was strong, she wasn't fat, but she wasn't thin, but she was happy with herself and was absolutely gorgeous.
My suspicion is you will get more graceful as you practice dancing more. Size has less to do with looking clumsy than lack of practice. Dance sounds like a great exercise for you.
No matter how we are built, our religion, nationality, family, social status, or what our skin tone there are always going to be people that don't like us because of it and it isn't anything we can do about it. It is bad enough dealing with those people, we shouldn't do it to ourselves2 -
WickedPineapple wrote: »PrincessTinyheart wrote: »(I could go on and on about the negative crap disguised as "realistic helpful advice" from my family, but I won't... it's mostly just hearing things like "little petite girls will always have the advantage so just learn to accept it"... yeah, mental poison to be sure, but it sticks with you)
I'm really curious... what advantages to being petite are they talking about? Getting hit in the face by elbows or run into because people just don't see you? Having to jump onto counters to get things out of cabinets? Top shelves being a complete mystery (I mean, who knows what's up there)? Having to jump to get into a work truck (and having to kind of slide to get back out)? People singing you the Lollipop Guild song and/or calling you a munchkin? Don't get me wrong, I like being short. I'm adorable. But I'll never be "hot" with legs that go on for miles. These days I'm mostly concerned about having to shop in the kids section...
Self-esteem is more internal than external in my opinion. Work on your outside of course, but work on your inside view of yourself too. Be kind to yourself and avoid these kinds of conversations with your family.
PS - "Little petite girls"? It sounds like they don't have much respect for petite women anyway.
I should have clarified a bit... they were referring to dating and relationships. I think that there was/is always an assumption in their mind that petite = more attractive and appealing to men.
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PrincessTinyheart wrote: »I should have clarified a bit... they were referring to dating and relationships. I think that there was/is always an assumption in their mind that petite = more attractive and appealing to men.
Luckily, not all men like the same type of woman. Sounds like something your family needs to learn!2 -
ElizabethOakes2 wrote: »Little petite girls... always have the advantage? Until it comes to... Reaching stuff on the top shelf of the grocery store *Excuse me, ma'am, I don't know you but can you hand me that peanut butter*, changing our own tires (I bet you've never once had to stand on the lug wrench handle and jump up and down to get the lug nuts loose.), chopping firewood (*Put your muscles behind it, girl!* 'I did...', rearranging the living room, (I need a furniture dolly just to move stuff to vacuum.)
Sure, we might have the 'little petite advantage' of being seen as desirable to others, but when it comes to the real stuff, the important stuff, the stuff that REALLY matters in life? Believe me, you big strong girls will survive the zombie apocalypse, and we'll just be corpses at the door.
Exactly.
I can haul a full bale of peat moss to my garden, or carry around an air conditioner and haul it upstairs by myself, even though the box says "team lift." I would HATE to be weak and small and dependent on other people to get stuff done.
I dance too, so I know what you mean...maybe try a different dance idiom? I never looked right doing belly dance because my hips and butt are not big enough relative to the rest of my body. I love Latin dance, particularly standard salsa and bachata. I'm old and I am an Amazon, but I dance well and I am fun, so I never have a problem finding leads. Tiny girls might have an advantage over me as performers, but that is about it. When I go out dancing, I see lots of cute, petite girls sitting on the sidelines...while all of the guys are dancing with me.
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I struggle with the same jealousy of petite women. I'm 5'5 and 175lbs with a lowish (who really knows?1?) bodyfat. I have an hourglass shape and it's great but i'm never going to be a petite woman. After 4 kids (including twins) and 100+lb loss, my hips aren't going to get much smaller than 40" no matter how low I get my bodyfat and i've had these DD's since about age 12. I'm working on loving my body for what it can do. I can run a sub30min 5k, i can lift heavy stuff. Maybe you could look for motivation this way? Just know your not alone0
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I'd love to be taller, and have a higher TDEE as a result LOL...that's all that comes to mind as an "average" sized woman.
There are people who are actually jealous of you.4 -
it took a long time for me to love who i am. to stop listening to the outside chatter and embrace my height. my size. i think working on eating right working out, helped a lot. being an amazon is not a bad thing. xena, wonder woman, those are my idols. stop listening to those around you and embrace who you are! you are gorgeous! add me if you want support
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PrincessTinyheart wrote: »ElizabethOakes2 wrote: »Little petite girls... always have the advantage? Until it comes to... Reaching stuff on the top shelf of the grocery store *Excuse me, ma'am, I don't know you but can you hand me that peanut butter*, changing our own tires (I bet you've never once had to stand on the lug wrench handle and jump up and down to get the lug nuts loose.), chopping firewood (*Put your muscles behind it, girl!* 'I did...', rearranging the living room, (I need a furniture dolly just to move stuff to vacuum.)
Sure, we might have the 'little petite advantage' of being seen as desirable to others, but when it comes to the real stuff, the important stuff, the stuff that REALLY matters in life? Believe me, you big strong girls will survive the zombie apocalypse, and we'll just be corpses at the door.
But you guys can charm big strong men into doing all of that stuff for you
Ewwwww. This attitude is so manipulative and disgustingly regressive. Plus, the idea that a tall/strong woman cannot be charming? That's just ridiculous.
Maybe you just need to step out of 1950.
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mom2my4boys wrote: »I struggle with the same jealousy of petite women. I'm 5'5 and 175lbs with a lowish (who really knows?1?) bodyfat. I have an hourglass shape and it's great but i'm never going to be a petite woman. After 4 kids (including twins) and 100+lb loss, my hips aren't going to get much smaller than 40" no matter how low I get my bodyfat and i've had these DD's since about age 12. I'm working on loving my body for what it can do. I can run a sub30min 5k, i can lift heavy stuff. Maybe you could look for motivation this way? Just know your not alone
I've never been an athletic or competitive person. I don't like sports and don't have the motivation to lift heavy stuff (although I can do it if necessary - I just don't see it as empowering when I can just get a dolly or wheelbarrow instead ). It's just not important to me. But I'm glad there are a lot of other people that feel empowered by it!0
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