Low carb

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asaber1616 wrote: »

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asaber1616 wrote: »

I can respect that. However, I would never wish what I had to go through, thanks to the no carb fad, upon anyone. It truly is not healthy in the long haul. My hope is to simply warn those who are looking into it..

It's not a fad.
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Perhaps you were doing it wrong?

signed: not low carb.

Maybe, but I doubt it. I became so obsessive over what I was eating on low carb. I kept count of everything to make sure I was getting enough protein and fats to make up for the carbs. I'm finding that there's lots of research showing that it's not healthy to limit or put retrictions on food groups..

But healthy to put restrictions on or limit calories. Got it.

Perhaps it was you.

Well, limiting food groups is a bit different than limiting calories, because the more varied your diet, the more likely you are to meet your nutrient needs. You can certainly be successful on more restrictive diets and many people are, but you're likely to need to pay greater attention to nutrients that you might be lacking.

Does that make limiting a macro "unhealthy"?

Not necessarily. In fact even very restrictive diets can often be healthy, just that the more restrictive you are, the more effort you tend to need to put into nutrition as a general rule. If you eat a highly varied diet you likely don't need to care as much.

So you can definitely be healthy and limit carbs, but you might need to expend extra effort. For example, taking low carb to the extreme, in ketosis one tends to lose more potassium in the urine. That, combined with the fact that many of the best sources of potassium are carb-heavy means you may need to pay attention to getting sufficient potassium.

Yup.

I did try atkins before and it worked for a while then got boring and I ended up putting all the weight back on and more. I do however believe in a moderate carb diet while trying to lose weight. So the program I used and helped me to shed 15kg and my husband 30kg based on a 6wks cycle which starts with 3 days of protein only no more than 10g carbs, then normal diet of between 60-65g carbs/day for females and 70-80g carbs/day for males, with the exception of protein only every Monday for a period of 4wks, then gradually increase food and carbs for 2 weeks. The idea is to keep your metabolism fired up to burn fat. I have no problem maintaining my weight now despite of eating normal diet with a good amount of carbs around 120-150g/day. The point is everything in moderation is the way to go and figuring out how to keep your body burning fat even when you are asleep at night.

asaber1616 wrote: »

mammaskinny wrote: »

I did try atkins before and it worked for a while then got boring and I ended up putting all the weight back on and more. I do however believe in a moderate carb diet while trying to lose weight. So the program I used and helped me to shed 15kg and my husband 30kg based on a 6wks cycle which starts with 3 days of protein only no more than 10g carbs, then normal diet of between 60-65g carbs/day for females and 70-80g carbs/day for males, with the exception of protein only every Monday for a period of 4wks, then gradually increase food and carbs for 2 weeks. The idea is to keep your metabolism fired up to burn fat. I have no problem maintaining my weight now despite of eating normal diet with a good amount of carbs around 120-150g/day. The point is everything in moderation is the way to go and figuring out how to keep your body burning fat even when you are asleep at night.

I might give this a try. So on Mondays you only ate protein right? After the initial 3 day low carb? Also, how many fats did you eat?

OP, why don't you stick with something simple? You have already discovered that one restrictive diet didn't work for you, how do you think another will work? Weight loss comes from a calorie deficit. How you achieve only matters to you. So going with this or that diet will only help in terms of dietary compliance. One does not accelerate fat loss over another pending calories are equal. So why not concentrate on foods you enjoy that will help keep you full and help you achieve your goal.


Also, your metabolism is always active because it's all the chemical processes to maintain a living state. And yes, you will burn calories from digesting food (thermal effect of food) it is very minimal and those calories burned through digestion will occur whether you eat 1x a day or 5x a day. More importantly, if you are in a calorie deficit, your body will have more periods of lipolysis (breakdown of energy) than it will have periods of lipogenesis (storage of energy). Lipogenesis occurs after you eat.


So what are your goals? If it's just to get trim, have a small calorie deficit (1/2 lb per week), have adequate protein (~.6-.8g per lb of weight) and do resistance training and mix in cardio.

Never mind...I see it.
Have you decided what course you're going to take now?

Keto (low carb) has it's ups and downs. If anyone is considering trying it, here is what I've found to be the good and bad of low-carb:

Cons:
-You will definitely have cravings. Cravings so insane that it will make you feel like a drug addict.
(Our bodies are biologically inclined to eat sugar. So when we cut it out, our bodies freak out quite bad.)

-IF you cheat, you tend to feel like you just ruined your entire diet.
(If you struggle getting "back on the horse" after a bad experience, keto is not your diet.)

Pros:
- Unlimited portions.
(Low carb basically means you can eat whatever. It's VERY hard to consume enough calories on low-carb to escape deficit)
- No "special rules".
(Calorie counting is hard for some. It was tedious for me for years until MFP. Now I do it pretty seamlessly. Also bought a food scale which was a HUGGGEEEE help. Low-carb basically means you eat meat & SOME fruits and vegetables.)
- Insane weight loss.
(Low carb will make weight fall off FAST. Youll lose like 5 lbs within the first week. It's all water/glycogen, but it's a great start to boost some people's motivation. But it's insanely hard and intimidating to some. )

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Some people work better on keto. Some don't.

I (personally) try to keep my carbs low. Ketosis keeps me out of mental fog and boosts my energy levels through the roof. But I've now found a way to count my calories AND stay low-carb, which helps me to have a small sugar blast when I'm having a rough day.

psulemon wrote: »

TalkersNeverWin wrote: »

Keto (low carb) has it's ups and downs. If anyone is considering trying it, here is what I've found to be the good and bad of low-carb:

Cons:
-You will definitely have cravings. Cravings so insane that it will make you feel like a drug addict.
(Our bodies are biologically inclined to eat sugar. So when we cut it out, our bodies freak out quite bad.)

-IF you cheat, you tend to feel like you just ruined your entire diet.
(If you struggle getting "back on the horse" after a bad experience, keto is not your diet.)

Pros:
- Unlimited portions.
(Low carb basically means you can eat whatever. It's VERY hard to consume enough calories on low-carb to escape deficit)
- No "special rules".
(Calorie counting is hard for some. It was tedious for me for years until MFP. Now I do it pretty seamlessly. Also bought a food scale which was a HUGGGEEEE help. Low-carb basically means you eat meat & SOME fruits and vegetables.)
- Insane weight loss.
(Low carb will make weight fall off FAST. Youll lose like 5 lbs within the first week. It's all water/glycogen, but it's a great start to boost some people's motivation. But it's insanely hard and intimidating to some. )

--=--=--=--=--=--=--=



Some people work better on keto. Some don't.

I (personally) try to keep my carbs low. Ketosis keeps me out of mental fog and boosts my energy levels through the roof. But I've now found a way to count my calories AND stay low-carb, which helps me to have a small sugar blast when I'm having a rough day.

You have to control portions on low carb because you can still gain weight. You just so happen are eating foods that make you feel full which makes it more difficult for you.

Yep, so many people they can ignore calories when going low carb. It is harder to overeat, but it can definitely be done.

As for the cravings mentioned by the previous poster. One of the main reasons I went keto was to control those cravings, and it did, they pretty much disappeared.