June (2016) Running Challenge
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Ok, starting today, just wanted to try out this ticker thing4
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So it turns out that I was running a longer distance than I thought I was the whole time? I never planned out my route, mainly jogging from my work to the bus stop, busing near home and jogging the rest of the way. According to those distance calculators, I was off by 0.35 of a kilometer, per kilometer. Nice! Every little bit counts!
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@shanaber great ideas for dog running! I'll definitely have to give the Kurgo waist leash a try.
@Iporter229 puppies! I think they are just all over the place. Patience and practice...patience and practice...I'm still telling myself that with Pandora too
@skippygirlsmom yeah, we've had a few narrow misses with squirrels and trees3 -
@MNLittleFinn Good luck! Can't wait to hear the race report
@mbaker566 Ow! That sounds like a terrible place to get a bee sting.
@greenolivetree Aww - bird poo! Gross.
@bradboughner5 Good for you on the 2 miles! Yay!
@skippygirlsmom "Momma I may never walk again" Ha! Jealous of the instant abs tho I think for any of us passed 30 instant abs are a thing of the past....I think I get instant flab tho...4 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »@skippygirlsmom thanks for the input. I've never taken water on a run shorter than 12 miles....That said, I've never run in heaat over 60 degrees. I think I will bring it with.....it's an extra little weight, but it also means that I can water up when I want, instead of waiting for the water station around mile 3.
Definitely carry your own water. Lots of reasons.
You will have it with you when you need a drink and you're not at an aid station.
You will have water if the aid station runs out (rare) or is too crowded (can happen).
If you're familiar with Nuun and tolerate it well, and you carry Nuun, you have electrolytes that won't give you problems. If the race is giving out some brand you've never used, you could have an unpleasant surprise. One reason I like a hydration belt better than a backpack is that two bottles let me carry Nuun *and* water.
In a longer race, when you take a gel you will have water to chase it even if the time to take the gel doesn't come at an aid station.
You will have water that you know how to drink. It takes practice to learn to drink from a wax paper cup while running, and it's harder at faster paces.
You will have water if it turns out the heat is a bigger deal than you projected it to be. Since you have never run in this temperature before, this is possible.
The argument against carrying water is that it's excess weight and it slows you down. My counter-argument in favor is that I lose more time getting water from an aid station at race pace than I do drinking on the run from my own bottle.
THBS, I can drink from the aid stations pretty well in a marathon, and kind of okay in a half marathon. In a faster race, I just plain suck at drinking from the wax paper cup. A year or so ago, I started leaving my hydration belt in the car for a 5K; after all, how dehydrated can I get in 20 minutes? Did that with a 5 mile race, didn't take water at the turnaround, and regretted not carrying it in the last 2 miles. This was in mid-March, in nice running weather. I survived, I had a good result, but I would have been more comfortable if I'd had my water bottle. Next year, I'll wear the hydration belt for that race, and I won't care if other runners sneer at me for carrying water in a race that's only 5 miles long.3 -
@mobycarp thanks for the awesome advice. I just started using NUUN tabs. I'll drop one in my bottle and take it tomorrow.1
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Good luck on your race @MNLittleFinn!
I usually do my long run on Saturday mornings with my running group, but I'll be leaving to visit family tomorrow in the hot and steamy midwest so I wanted to get it done today. My long run is currently 60 minutes and I got in 5 miles. I definitely felt tired from all the running earlier in the week so I'm ready for a rest day tomorrow. Hopefully I don't have to do any unexpected airport running.
Miles this week: 15.1
Miles for June:
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My goal is 80km!
2nd - 8km
4th - 5km (parkrun, 26:21) new PB by 1min 35seconds!
6th - 4km
8th - 8km
9th - 3km My first social run with a friend! We ran faster than I normally do.
11th - 5km Started enjoying it after 4km. Took my camelbak for my shopping bags and wallet and walked back via the shops, worked well.
33/80km so far
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Just 9 miles with a few friends this afternoon.
6/1 - 4 miles
6/2 - 8 miles
6/3 - 13.5 miles
6/5 - 13.5 miles
6/6 - 9 miles
6/7 - 10 miles
6/9 - 12 miles
6/10 - 9 miles
Total: 79 miles
Goal: 200 miles
Remaining: 121 miles
2016 Race Schedule:
Disney Marathon - Jan 6 - 3:29:09
Gasparilla 15K - Feb 20 - 1:01:59
Ironman 70.3 Florida - Apr 10 - 5:07:51
Pittsburgh Marathon - May 1 - 3:08:25
Ironman 70.3 Augusta - Sep 25
Chicago Marathon - Oct 9
Ironman Florida - Nov 5
@mnlittlefinn - Good luck on your race. Go kick some kittens'. RE: Drinking - I've become comfortable with the sensation of self-waterboarding while drinking from aid stations at marathons/halfs - as the process becomes slightly more tolerable once I figured out how to crease/fold the side of the cup and drink out of the created corner along the side of my mouth. Still, I can definitely respect folks who've figured out better solutions. I've also seen some fellow runners with pop-off tops on their own water bottles who just do a quick cup to bottle transfer of water/gatorade, then sip in a more civilized way.4 -
@lporter229 - it is good to reward the actions you want so if you treat while they are walking (running) at your side - not pulling or lagging behind, they will quickly get the idea. I taught him 'look' right away to get his attention - I say look and if he looks even a little he gets a treat. I used that when we were walking initially to draw his attention to me and away from what he wants to sniff. I also have taught him 'leave it' which is invaluable if there is something (horse poop) that I don't want him to eat or mess with. Any behavior that is positive - looking at me, stopping sniffing, staying at my side, stopping with me, etc. got a treat. Now he rarely needs a 'look' command but will still respond to it. A lot of this is from the basic obedience class and is paying off in the Rally class we are doing where his focus has to be on me to know what the next action is and of course there are lots of treats involved
@skippygirlsmom - I did not feel the earthquake but it woke my husband up. I am pretty sure the house could fall down around me and I would still go on sleeping Tell Skip I want instant ABS too! Don't think that will ever happen at this point in my life! I am pretty sure our trainers all want us to feel like we may never walk again - that way we know we got in a good workout
I ran late today and it was wonderful! Just under 7 miles and no significant back pain. It wasn't 100% but certainly better and no spasms during or after! I am going to try to run my virtual HM tomorrow morning early as I have a massage schedule in the afternoon - yay!! I will post miles tomorrow! Have a great weekend everyone!4 -
Group time trial today. Tried to do my 5k PR and do an actuall progression on slits. Progression went fine (4:38, 4:26, 4:23, 4:23, 4:13) but not as good as I hoped. Last two were supposed to be 4:00 and under 4 but guess I estimated wrong. Didn't beat my pr but came close to it at a 22:14. The interesting part is my heart rate with a peak of 198 during last kick. So long to the 220-age formula.
Date.....Distance..Avg hr/Pace/km
June 1 - 6.1 km - 156/5:47
June 2 - 5.5 km - 154/6:00
June 3 - 5.0 km - 153/6:12
June 4 - 7.0 km - 184/4:25
June 5 - 6.0 km - 143/6:27
June 6 - Rest
June 7 - 6.0 km - 143/6:13
June 8 - 6.8 km - 148/6:11 (Hot)
June 9 - 5.8 km - 150/5:58
June 10 - rest
June 11 - 5.0 km - 184/4:26
03/04: Bucharest 10k and Family run 48:28
16/04: Color Run Bucharest
17/04: Forest Run 5k 22:05
04/06: Happy Run 5k 21:572 -
Hank you for all the advice guys! I'm all dressed and ready to go. Packet pick up started at 0600 but goes to 0730 so no sense in going out in the heat for a little bit yet. Downed 64oz of Powerade and Gatorade yesterday, working in another Gatorade with my morning coffee and have my 10oz bottle ready to go with a NUUN tab in it. Gonna be hot but I'm looking forward to it!5
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@MobyCarp - I know because you're injured and can't really race the 5km you've got coming up soon, but seeing as you're signed up, why not go along anyway? A couple of years ago when I got injured for the first time I did the same with a 10km and got chatting to someone who had only run a 5km before and offered to run with her. She wanted to do it in less than 1 hour 20 minutes, the time she had done in training, and I was able to run that pace even when recovering from being injured. It was nice to go and help someone achieve their goal, even though I couldn't achieve mine. I can't remember what time we ran but it was nearly 1:10 and she was over the moon (my PB must have been about 58mins ish at the time). I'm sure you could contact the race organisers and even offer to be the person that runs right at the back to support those who are finding it tough? Maybe this is just something I would do because I'm too cheap to waste a race registration! But who knows, you could really help someone
@ MNLittleFinn Good luck tomorrow! I would definitely carry water - even if you don't need it, it won't slow you down by carrying it and it's better to have it than not.
@AdrianChr92 The 220-age thing doesn't work for me either. I can still get to 199 and I'm 27. Well done on a good time though
I think I might have gotten a PB today at Parkrun, but they are being slow with their times. But I kept up with the 26-min pacer so fingers crossed I binned those pesky 11 seconds I've been trying to shift. Strava thinks it is a PR, Nike+ doesn't. We will wait and see when they email the times through. Normally they are done by now, typical they would be slow on the one day I actually care! I'm like an impatient child right now.
2nd June - 3.53 miles
4th June - 3.41 miles
5th June - 7.12 miles
7th June - 3.33 miles
9th June- unplanned rest day
11th June - 3.56 miles (Parkrun+warmup)
MTD - 20.95/80 miles
Upcoming races:
18th Sept - Run Reigate Half Marathon
2nd Oct - Tonbridge Half Marathon
30th Oct - River Thames Half Marathon
9th April 2017 - Brighton Marathon8 -
Hi, My name is Beatrice and I am a stay at home mom to a 3 year old boy. You would think I run enough with him but nope. I am very new to running and exercising in general but so I am trying to stay motivated and on track towards my fitness goals. I have a Fitbit that has kept me on track and keeps me motivated, but I think this running group will help so much more. Any tips for a newbie to the fitness world? Any advice? Thanks!!
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Mandilmommy wrote: »
Hi, My name is Beatrice and I am a stay at home mom to a 3 year old boy. You would think I run enough with him but nope. I am very new to running and exercising in general but so I am trying to stay motivated and on track towards my fitness goals. I have a Fitbit that has kept me on track and keeps me motivated, but I think this running group will help so much more. Any tips for a newbie to the fitness world? Any advice? Thanks!!
Don't give up , take rest days, listen to your body, and run slow. Check in here often for support and camaraderie4 -
6/1- 4.17
6/2- 5.79
6/3-Rest
6/4-12.25
6/5-Rest
6/6- Rest
6/7-5.03
6/8-Rest
6/9-5.0
6/10- Rest
6/11-10k race
Total: 38.24/100
Ran my first race today! Chip time was 55:21 my Garmin time was 55:38. According to my Garmin it was only 6.04 miles and not a full 10k, so I feel kind of cheated.
Temps were in the mid to upper 70s F range with humidity around 60% but it was the full bright sun running on blacktop country roads that was the real killer.
Water stations at miles 1, 3, 5 were used to dowse myself with water, since I had my water bottle with me.
Breakdown of the run:
Mile 1: did it in 9:11 feeling good but too fast
Mile 2: 8:58 ok this feels good but I'm a little tired
Mile 3: 8:54 whoa I'm half way through and killing it
Mile 4: 9:06 a little slower I'm feeling the heat now
Mile 5: 10:17 oh *kitten* these last 2 hills suck! I'm gonna *kitten* walk up them
Mile 6: 8:43....well I'm whipped but I finished strong
I went out WAY too fast and new I did, but I was stubborn and paid for it. Mile 5 was just two big rolling hills and with my HR at like 187 I needed to slow it down and walked the top half of each hill.
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@MnLittleFinn. Congratulations, and dang! I hate that then the course is short. You're ready for a beast of a PR and the course is short. HHappened to me last March on a would have been super 5k PR by near 10 minutes.
I promised myself to make sure the course was sanctioned and I just didn't assume anymore. But I had one 10k that was short and claimed to be sanctioned. I complained and got my money back. Will not run anymore organized by them.
Sweet runnin' though! Glad the heat didn't get you!
Edit- I'm headed back to the cold springs for 6* miles. Anyone comin'?
*Hoping to pull off 9-10, had Ben and Jerry's last night to top of the glycogen tank. I won't be running anything if I don't get my possum outta bed.2 -
Well, my official summer 5k is in the books. Temperature at gun time was announced at 80° (27°C) and 60% humidity. My plan was to carry a water bottle with me and drink at every walk break since there were 2 water stops and it was making me nervous. I had also planning on running 5 minutes and walking 1 minute intervals because of the heat. It started off good, I was in the second of three waves to start but when it was time to go the actual start/finish line was not well defined. First mile was good, on a good pace, recovering well on the walk break, ended up a little faster than planned. Just past the 1 mile marker, I saw the ambulance go by, thought I better slow down a little and I did, still doing ok. At around a mile and a half the heat hit me and I started getting dizzy so I started taking longer walk breaks and drinking more. At the second mile marker I started seeing people throwing up on the side of the pavement so I gave up my time goals and just wanted to finish without joining them. I have no idea what my intervals became other than run when you can, walk when you get dizzy. I finished healthy and that was my main goal, time wise I was rediculously slow at around 45 minutes. I say around because I wasn't sure where the finish line actually was since it was not clearly defined, I am waiting for the official results. But I had a good time and got a fun medal and now back to running when it is early and cool and starting to add miles.
Date Run Totals
6/1 - 2 mi - 2 mi
6/3 - 3 mi - 5 mi
6/4 - 3 mi - 8 mi
6/7 - 3 mi - 11 mi
6/11- 3 mi - 14 mi
Goal 40 miles
Races :
6/11 Run and Ride 5K Cedar Point - Done
7/10 Debbie Hudacko 5 mile
10/8 Outdoor Trail Series 5 mile #1
11/5 Outdoor Trail Series 5 mile #2
12/3 Outdoor Trail Series 5 mile #3
12/11 Santa Hustle Half Marathon Cedar Point
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@elise4270. I did the math and if I had that extra 0.17 I would have had an official 2 minute PR....really kind of annoyed about it being short but also very happy with how I ran it.
Race was for local hospital by my mom, so even though it was short, I'm glad to give the money to them.3 -
Congratulations @MNLittleFinn! Sounds like you had a great race! Sorry it was short.1
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louubelle16 wrote: »@MobyCarp - I know because you're injured and can't really race the 5km you've got coming up soon, but seeing as you're signed up, why not go along anyway? A couple of years ago when I got injured for the first time I did the same with a 10km and got chatting to someone who had only run a 5km before and offered to run with her. She wanted to do it in less than 1 hour 20 minutes, the time she had done in training, and I was able to run that pace even when recovering from being injured. It was nice to go and help someone achieve their goal, even though I couldn't achieve mine. I can't remember what time we ran but it was nearly 1:10 and she was over the moon (my PB must have been about 58mins ish at the time).
@louubelle16 - While the concept of treating a race as an easy training run sounds good, there are behavioral considerations. My history of success at doing this isn't very good. I've tried 3 times, and ended up running faster than planned all 3 times. Got away with it twice, and it bit me big time at Flower City.
Then there's the environment for that 5K on Father's Day. It's a Rochester Runner of the Year race, and it's a big event for my running club. It will be very, very hard to run it and not try to run fast. I still might be able to run it; but I may not know for sure until next Saturday when I see how pacing a long run goes.
@AdrianChr92 - I think the 220 - age thing was put together from looking at deconditioned people. When I first got my Garmin, it told me my maximum heart rate was right around 160, which is 220 minus my age. After it got a few weeks of my heart rate data, Garmin decided my maximum heart rate was 185. I've certainly been in races where my HR went over 160 by more than rounding error.
@MNLittleFinn - That's a good first race. Just about everyone goes out too fast the first time, no matter how much they listen to advice not to. That just seems to be something that most people can't learn without being in a race environment and experiencing a too-fast start first hand. I went out way too fast on my first race, too. Didn't have to walk (no hills), and I ran the full 5K; but I was very glad to get to the finish line. I don't think I could have kept going for 6K that day.
Inaccurate race distances happen sometimes. It's understood that a trail 10K means 10K-ish, but I'd expect a certified road 10K to be closer than what you saw.
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6/4 -- 1.71miles -- jog/ walk with Pandora the puppy
6/5-- rest
6/6-- 1.5 miles -- jog/ walk on the treadmill (asthma flared up - suck)
6/7--rest--sick with a cold
6/8--1.71 miles--jog/ walk with Pan (mostly jogging -yay! a bit wheezy but managed to keep going through it)
6/9--weights & elliptical
6/10--2 miles--jog/ walk on treadmill
6/11--rest day/ dog walking (not counting miles)
Total: 6.92 miles done, 13.08 to go2 -
Date Miles today. Miles for June
6/1 5 miles - 5 << Another recovery run.
6/2 6.5 miles - 11.5
6/3 REST DAY (unplanned but necessary)
6/4 13.5 miles - 25
6/5 REST DAY
6/6 8 miles 33
6/6 4 miles 37 << Daily Double
6/7 9 miles 46
6/7 5 miles 51 << Daily Double
6/8 6.2 miles 57.2
6/9 9 miles 66.2
6/10 6.2 miles 72.4
6/11 18 miles 90.4
Upcoming races:
UAH 8K - 3/6 <<< 34:33 3 in AG
Oak Barrel HM - 4/2 <<<< 1:38:00 3 in AG
Bridge Street HM - 4/10 <<< 1:36:33 3 in AG
PEO-AVN Team Day 5K - 5/4 <<< 19:10 (2.9 mi) 1 in AG 5 OA
Cotton Row Run 10K - 5/30 << 44:57 PR
Firecracker Chase 10.2 miler 6/25
Rocket City Marathon - 12/10
This morning I decided to go with a group I don't normally run with way on the other side of Huntsville on the other side of the mountains. Over 1300 ft elevation gain.
Here are some pics.
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Congrats on the 10k @MNLittleFinn! Sorry to hear about the short course though, that sucks *kitten*.
Way to go @kimlight2! That sounds brutal but you managed it well!1 -
June Running Totals (miles)
6/1 – rest day
6/2 – 6.11 easy
6/3 – rest day
6/4 – 7.21 easy with hills
6/5 – 7.42 easy
6/6 – rest day
6/7 – 8.56 easy
6/8 – rest day
6/9 – 8.01 easy
6/10 – rest day
6/11 – 10.09 with hills and humidity
June total to date – 47.40
Nominal Challenge Goal – 100 miles
Real Goals: Recover from injury to the point where running feels normal again. Stretch goal, recover to the point where I can run at race pace.
Today's notes – Today is the last Saturday off between training sessions, so I turned of the alarm and slept till 6:14 AM. Took my time about my morning routine, and didn't get out to run till a bit past 9. By then, it was 66° F (19° C) out, with minimal wind and deceptive humidity, maybe 60%. It didn't feel too bad at first, but the humidity got more and more noticeable as I ran. When I checked the thermometer after getting home, it was up to 75° F (24° C).
After Thursday's 8 miles, I had decided I would attempt 10 miles today. Thought about it, and ran a standard 10 mile loop from home that has some interesting hills. After yesterday's rest day, the recovering leg was still a presence; but my conditioning and the humidity got more of my attention for most of the run. The idea was to get 10 miles in, running however I needed to for the recovering leg, and not worrying too much about pace or heart rate. In the humidity, my heart rate was higher than I'd like for an easy run, averaging 139; but my pace turned out to be pretty good for an 8:30 target. 10.09 miles in 1:25:14 came out to an average pace of 8:27, with mile splits of 8:26, 8:21, 8:33, 8:31, 8:33, 8:24, 8:41, 8:34, 8:14, and 8:20. When the watch ticked over 10 miles, I went for a fast finish; Garmin says that tag of 0.09 miles was at a 7:10 pace. That finish was not as fast as I'd like if I were healthy and running in perfect weather; but it's a great result for coming off an injury and having run 10 miles in the humidity.
The fast finish was because Thursday my coach had suggested some very short speed work with good recovery to help activate the blood flow and improve the dull ache in my thigh. Since the leg was still feeling decent at 10 miles, I figured it couldn't hurt that much and might very well help. It wasn't about cardio, and it wasn't about training myself to finish a race fast; it was about trying to manage recovery.
I'm not sure how to think about today's run. Most of the last 5 miles, the thigh was fairly quiet and I felt like I was running close to normally. But the stats show my stride a little shorter and my cadence a little faster than I had been accustomed to, and the left/right balance looks more imbalanced to the left than it had been pre-injury. It also occurs to me that heat makes the thigh feel better, so I'm not sure how much of how good I felt is really being better, and how much is simply running in warmer weather than I did the last couple of times.
Next Saturday it's back to being a pace leader. Right now, I'm not sure I can pace 8:00; but I can certainly pace 8:30. Just have to see whether we have any runners needing an 8:00 pace next session.
2016 races:
January 1, 2016 Resolution Run 7.5 mile (Mendon, NY) finished in 53:58
January 9, 2016 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:59
March 12, 2016 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 32:32
March 26, 2016 Spring Forward Distance Run 15K (Mendon, NY) finished in 1:05:24
April 18, 2016 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:23:01
April 24, 2016 Flower City Challenge Half Marathon (Rochester, NY) finished in 1:36:50, targeting MP
May 15, 2016 Highland Hospital Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) DNS - injury
June 19, 2016 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY)
July 16, 2016 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hamlin, NY)
September 18, 2016 Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY)
November 24, 2016 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
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