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I'm not sure cico solely would work for me? I mean if I eat 1200 calories worth of candy bars or 1200 calories worth of protein and fruit/vegetables will I really continue to lose? I'm not going to eat candy bars of course lol2
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laurasprogress wrote: »I'm not sure cico solely would work for me? I mean if I eat 1200 calories worth of candy bars or 1200 calories worth of protein and fruit/vegetables will I really continue to lose? I'm not going to eat candy bars of course lol
That is EXACTLY how it works. Scientifically speaking - as long as you're under your calorie goal, you will lose weight.
The NUTRITION you're getting won't be ideal - that's for sure. BUT, you would still lose weight.10 -
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Lol. Fundamentally, yes... If you eat only twinkies and junk food and are still under calories you will lose weight (fat and muscle.) However, if you eat the same amount of calories in chicken and brown rice you will lose MORE fat and retain MORE muscle. Make sense?
Question: who is talking about eating *only* Twinkies and junk food? What does this have to do with someone choosing to have a half cup of ice cream in the context of a diet that is meeting their nutritional needs?12 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Lol. Fundamentally, yes... If you eat only twinkies and junk food and are still under calories you will lose weight (fat and muscle.) However, if you eat the same amount of calories in chicken and brown rice you will lose MORE fat and retain MORE muscle. Make sense?
Question: who is talking about eating *only* Twinkies and junk food? What does this have to do with someone choosing to have a half cup of ice cream in the context of a diet that is meeting their nutritional needs?
Exactly.
*mic drop*
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tiffanylacourse wrote: »
Losing muscle and slowing down her metabolism is her goal? Oh, my mistake. Sorry. I'll stop using science.3 -
laurasprogress wrote: »I'm not sure cico solely would work for me? I mean if I eat 1200 calories worth of candy bars or 1200 calories worth of protein and fruit/vegetables will I really continue to lose? I'm not going to eat candy bars of course lol
Nobody is telling you to eat 1,200 calories of candy bars. I'm not sure why @coleg04 has decided to derail the thread in this direction, but you can choose to meet your nutritional needs and sometimes have some ice cream. That's what people mean when they say "CICO works." They're not telling you to ignore your need for protein and the nutrients found in vegetables. They're telling you you don't have to cut foods like ice cream from your diet in order to lose weight, lose fat, and meet your nutritional needs.10 -
If not lactose intolerant, have some cottage cheese. I've heard some carbs that are gluten sourced can give you a lot of dreams making a nights rest fruitless. Carb-timing causing fat gain is unlikely especially at 1200cal unless maybe you are <4' and that's a strong maybe.2
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Lol. Fundamentally, yes... If you eat only twinkies and junk food and are still under calories you will lose weight (fat and muscle.) However, if you eat the same amount of calories in chicken and brown rice you will lose MORE fat and retain MORE muscle. Make sense?
Where did anyone say to eat only "junk"? They said treat yourself, not sustain your life on foods with little or no nutritial value.
I appreciate your enthusiasm for a healthy lifestyle but your way of all or nothing thinking doesn't work for everyone. If I don't allow myself something I want if I have calories left then I'll go on a binge a week or two down the line, feel guilty and repeat the cycle. My Weightloss has been sustainable by moderation. So please try to be more respectful of others adivce.
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laurasprogress wrote: »If it's 8 o'clock at night and I haven't eaten my goal of calories, should I eat? Or not. I'm allowed 1200 calories and I'm finding on days that I'm busy, or get up later than usual, I'm sitting at 900 calories in the evening and I don't know if eating my remaining 300 is beneficial or detrimental. Help! I'm down 60 and really don't want to derail my progress
General rule of thumb is, if you aren't hungry then don't eat. The qualifier I always add is, only be at that deficit sometimes, and ONLY if you aren't having issues with energy, mood, or other. That said, eating to your caloric deficit goal will never be detrimental. Those numbers are fairly true to form so sticking to them will never be an issues.
In for ice cream too.
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I was simply point out that CI/CO is not the whole story. That was my only intention. I made this mistake, lost pounds of muscle AND slowed my metabolism to a halt. It was a nightmare. That is why I am passionate about this. The body WILL use muscle for fuel if protein is insufficient. That was my advice to Lauren. I stick to that because it's fact. Have a great day ladies!3
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I was simply point out that CI/CO is not the whole story. That was my only intention. I made this mistake, lost pounds of muscle AND slowed my metabolism to a halt. It was a nightmare. That is why I am passionate about this. The body WILL use muscle for fuel if protein is insufficient. That was my advice to Lauren. I stick to that because it's fact. Have a great day ladies!
Why are you assuming that OP is deficient in protein? You seem to be bringing a lot of assumptions to this conversation, assumptions that aren't tied to anything the OP has shared about her life.4 -
I apologize if I offended anyone. That was not my intention. Do what works for you. God bless!0
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Lol. Fundamentally, yes... If you eat only twinkies and junk food and are still under calories you will lose weight (fat and muscle.) However, if you eat the same amount of calories in chicken and brown rice you will lose MORE fat and retain MORE muscle. Make sense?
no, it doesn't make sense.5 -
I was simply point out that CI/CO is not the whole story. That was my only intention. I made this mistake, lost pounds of muscle AND slowed my metabolism to a halt. It was a nightmare. That is why I am passionate about this. The body WILL use muscle for fuel if protein is insufficient. That was my advice to Lauren. I stick to that because it's fact. Have a great day ladies!
^this and the post below (your first post in this thread) are miles apart, though.Don't listen to anyone telling you to eat chocolate or ice cream before bed!!! If you are like me, carbs (especially before bed) can put on weight faster than anything. If I were you I would consider some healthy lean meat (i do jerky) or just let it go. I go under many days it's certainly not something to feel guilty about.
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janejellyroll wrote: »
There is no misinformation lol. Your thinking is deeply flawed. The body will naturally use SOME muscle when there is a caloric deficit. Always. Please just google it or look it up on any nutritional website. I'm tired of being attacked for the TRUTH. I'm out. 1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
There is no misinformation lol. Your thinking is deeply flawed. The body will naturally use SOME muscle when there is a caloric deficit. Always. Please just google it or look it up on any nutritional website. I'm tired of being attacked for the TRUTH. I'm out.
I don't think anyone said that the body won't lose some muscle in a calorie deficit. Again, you might want to take a look at the assumptions you are bringing to this conversation. You are countering things that nobody has written.9 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
There is no misinformation lol. Your thinking is deeply flawed. The body will naturally use SOME muscle when there is a caloric deficit. Always. Please just google it or look it up on any nutritional website. I'm tired of being attacked for the TRUTH. I'm out.
Yes, that's always the case if you're in a calorie deficit. Strength training will help maintain what lean muscle mass you do have. For some reason you went completely off topic. All people said was if she has some calories left then to indulge in something she wants. Reading comprehension...it's a good skill to have
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I'm in a situation similar to you. MFP says to eat 1200 cal, TDEE says 1164. I eat more on this diet than I did before I signed up for MFP. Yes, I'm losing consistently. I've been told my cals are too low a couple times by the site. (being under1000) I'm trying to keep between 1100 and 1200. I eat back some of my exercise calories.0
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Filtering through the bickering (chill guys, it's almost Friday), the OP seems to have a pretty good attitude when it comes to "finishing off" calories. Yip, eat up to your allowance, especially cos it's at the lower end and kudos for going with something nutritious such as apple and peanut butter. I had 200 left tonight and went with wine....5
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I'm in a situation similar to you. MFP says to eat 1200 cal, TDEE says 1164. I eat more on this diet than I did before I signed up for MFP. Yes, I'm losing consistently. I've been told my cals are too low a couple times by the site. (being under1000) I'm trying to keep between 1100 and 1200. I eat back some of my exercise calories.
SQ....1146 TDEE or 1146 BMR?2 -
Oh good. Brosplaining.
OP, pre-planning your days may help you to see where you can add some calories in. If you're short for the day, a treat at night is a good short term solution. Long term, you may want to look where you can add some calories in throughout the day (especially if you're not a night time snacker).
When I first started I found it difficult to eat enough calories because I labeled a lot of foods "bad". There aren't bad foods, and adding things like a pad of butter on your toast or oatmeal or avocado in your salad can help get your daily goals up.
And if you want a piece of chocolate, make a single serving fit into your daily goal.6 -
OP, there's absolutely no requirement to eat that 300 calories left if you are feeling fine. The body is far capable of managing even more surplus / deficit than that, within days.
Generally speaking, eating just for the sake of meeting xxxx amount daily tends to be detrimental than beneficial. It might start your appetite and you cannot stop. It wipes out your deficit (progress) when you need to have some at other time, eg for events. It might reinforce a bad snacking habit. Eating per xx calories influence your food choice and might cheapen the experience, eg can't have a pizza you've been craving, gotta settle for a 200 cal ice cream. Those are just off the top of my head.1 -
My only suggestion is to pre-log your day. That way, if you don't feel comfortable snacking at night, you can work the calories into your day. I always log my whole day in the morning. If I have "extra" calories, I'll work it into my breakfast or afternoon snack.
I want to be clear that I see no issue AT ALL with timing of eating. For me personally, I'm simply never hungry in the evening, but I'm usually most hungry early in the day. The point is to pre-log so you can see where you're going to be at.4 -
From my own experience, if I have 100-200 calories left when I'm not hungry and I find something to eat, I generally start a massive binge. That single serving of ice cream only opens up a flood gate if I'm home alone. If you happen to have the same experience you'll find using those calories the next day would be better than finishing off a pint the night before.2
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I'm opposite. Im not a morning eater. I make myself drink a protein shake in the morning to jump start my metabolism and eat every three hours. I'm on an active sales floor so sometimes I can't go back to our break room and eat a meal that has enough calories, I gobble up a protein bar that typically will have less calories than my meal would. Instances such as that are what create the deficit at the end of the day. I'm a night over eater by nature it seems so I feel like I'm feeding that bad habit by making sure I make up the deficit. I appreciate all of the suggestions and think what would be smart is to maybe have a meal bar or something quick like that, that's has more calories, that I can have on hand when I am unable to actually sit down and eat. It's impossible for me to log my day in the morning, I would end up spending more time editing it and berating myself for not being able to follow it. My snack between lunch and dinner can be a challenge to get in also, but maybe need to have some nuts or something at ready. This thread has been quite helpful to me, even with the little bit of bickering, we all are here for a common goal and feel passionately about getting there and maintaining it. It's all good. Keep up the positive work everybody!!1
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janejellyroll wrote: »Lol. Fundamentally, yes... If you eat only twinkies and junk food and are still under calories you will lose weight (fat and muscle.) However, if you eat the same amount of calories in chicken and brown rice you will lose MORE fat and retain MORE muscle. Make sense?
Question: who is talking about eating *only* Twinkies and junk food? What does this have to do with someone choosing to have a half cup of ice cream in the context of a diet that is meeting their nutritional needs?
OP actually brought it up.0
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