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nvmomketo wrote: »

Traveler120 wrote: »

nvmomketo wrote: »

senecarr wrote: »

nvmomketo wrote: »

Cholesterol levels are not thought to be a risk factor for women, except that women who have low cholesterol are at greater risk of CAD, especially as they age.

Plus, saturated fat generally does not raise cholesterol, or if it does it is generally the more beneficial fluffier LDL or HDL. Lp a and triglycerides usually go down in a diet higher in saturated fats, especially if it is lower carb.

This claim sounds like someone misinterpreting the HRT studies on menopausal women.
What is true is that lowering cholesterol in post menopausal women doesn't appear to lead to better health outcomes for cardiovascular disease - the general interpretation being that intervention is too little, too late at that point. It did not change that lifetime cholesterol figures are predictors of cardiovascular events.

Lowering cholesterol tends to lead to a worse health outcomes in women, postmenopausal or not. The thought that it was the hormones that protect women from heart disease has also lost credibility in recent years. It can't be proven.

Cholesterol has very little to do with your risk of heart disease unless you are a man, under age 50, with high cholesterol levels, as I understand it.

You might want to stop perpetuating that myth. It's dangerous. Heart disease is the number one cause of death in women (in the US). http://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2013/index.htm

-and on the subject of 'Women and Cholesterol' http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/Cholesterol/UnderstandYourRiskforHighCholesterol/Women-and-Cholesterol_UCM_305565_Article.jsp
they clearly say in a bold red box, just in case you miss it, that 'It's not just a man's problem'.

http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/Cholesterol/AboutCholesterol/What-Your-Cholesterol-Levels-Mean_UCM_305562_Article.jsp
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/Cholesterol/WhyCholesterolMatters/Why-Cholesterol-Matters_UCM_001212_Article.jsp
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/Cholesterol/UnderstandYourRiskforHighCholesterol/Understand-Your-Risk-for-High-Cholesterol_UCM_001213_Article.jsp
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/Cholesterol/PreventionTreatmentofHighCholesterol/Prevention-and-Treatment-of-High-Cholesterol_UCM_001215_Article.jsp

In these links The American Heart Association says the exact opposite of what you're saying.

--High cholesterol is one of the major controllable risk factors for coronary heart disease, heart attack and stroke. As your blood cholesterol rises, so does your risk of coronary heart disease.

--When too much LDL (bad) cholesterol circulates in the blood, it can slowly build up in the inner walls of the arteries that feed the heart and brain (View an animation of cholesterol). Together with other substances, cholesterol can form a thick, hard deposit called plaque that can narrow the arteries and make them less flexible. This condition is known as atherosclerosis. If a clot forms and blocks a narrowed artery, a heart attack or stroke can result.

--Keeping your cholesterol levels healthy is a great way to keep your heart healthy – and lower your chances of getting heart disease or having a stroke.

--A low LDL cholesterol level is considered good for your heart health.
--A diet high in saturated and trans fats raises LDL cholesterol.

--The American Heart Association recommends LDL (bad) cholesterol-lowering drug therapy for most women with heart disease. Drug therapy should be combined with a diet low in saturated fat, trans fat, cholesterol, sodium, and added sugars and rich in fruits, vegetables, fiber-rich whole-grain foods, and fat-free and low-fat dairy.

Yes, heart disease is a problem, but high cholesterol doesn't cause it. There is no proof it does because it does not exist. At worst, it is a co-occurring situation.

Low cholesterol is linked to poor health, especially in women. Google it if you doubt it.

mccindy72 wrote: »

nvmomketo wrote: »

senecarr wrote: »

nvmomketo wrote: »

Cholesterol levels are not thought to be a risk factor for women, except that women who have low cholesterol are at greater risk of CAD, especially as they age.

Plus, saturated fat generally does not raise cholesterol, or if it does it is generally the more beneficial fluffier LDL or HDL. Lp a and triglycerides usually go down in a diet higher in saturated fats, especially if it is lower carb.

This claim sounds like someone misinterpreting the HRT studies on menopausal women.
What is true is that lowering cholesterol in post menopausal women doesn't appear to lead to better health outcomes for cardiovascular disease - the general interpretation being that intervention is too little, too late at that point. It did not change that lifetime cholesterol figures are predictors of cardiovascular events.

Lowering cholesterol tends to lead to a worse health outcomes in women, postmenopausal or not. The thought that it was the hormones that protect women from heart disease has also lost credibility in recent years. It can't be proven.

Cholesterol has very little to do with your risk of heart disease unless you are a man, under age 50, with high cholesterol levels, as I understand it.

so you missed my post with research linked to prove that this is wrong.

No, I didn't. There was no proof. They did not even say cholesterol causes heart disease.

I have gone off course here. Apologies.

Reduction of LDL cholesterol with a statin reduced the risk of major vascular events (RR 0·79, 95% CI 0·77–0·81, per 1·0 mmol/L reduction), largely irrespective of age, sex, baseline LDL cholesterol or previous vascular disease, and of vascular and all-cause mortality.

Christine_72 wrote: »

^^^^^ I no comprehendo ^^^^