Fat freezing
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Sounds like the only thing cool sculpting is good at is thinning out the wallet or purse.15
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tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »Sounds like the only thing cool sculpting is good at is thinning out the wallet or purse.
Chingchingchingching ......we have our winner......4 -
Awesome! Maybe we can save our fats in a jar and sell them on eBay as the new "SuperFood". Big Coconut Oil will be jelos.9
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Now I'm not a science person, but I recall reading that most fat that gets burned doesn't get expelled from the body as waste..... Which sounds like what this is claiming. Seems unlikely that you can freeze your fat and pee or sweat it out.3
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Ultrasound Cativation is a much better way to go, but frankly it's too complicated for me to explain this early in the morning. I have a friend that does it, and the results are really good. My husband had it done, for free, so that we could test it and I could definitely tell a difference.
Don't expect though that you can then go eat whatever you want, and the fat won't come back, because it will.1 -
OK so this IS spot reduction? Because that sounds awesome. The only problem I can see with it (thinking of my own body) is that liposuction results on lean people looking to trim up problem spots are usually awful looking, sort of lumpy. It works better on people with more fat, the fat hides the work somehow.
I would love to have fewer fat cells in my abdomen and inner upper thighs if that could be done affordably and smoothly. If they "redistributed" to the other places I store fat? That would be like photoshopping!
The part I don't understand is how can they freeze fat without damaging skin? Doesn't skin get killed if you take it down so cold that you damage fat cells? Frostburn?5 -
I haven't had it done, but there are a bunch of reviews on Realself if you are interested: https://www.realself.com/coolsculpting-by-zeltiq
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That's not exactly how it's supposed to work and not really how it's intended to be used either.
It's supposed to freeze/kill the actual fat cells on a small area so that you're no longer able to store fat in that spot, much like a mini lipo.
From what I gather, it's not intended as a weight loss technique or for large fat deposits but rather for things like double chins on people who are relatively lean (some people, like myself, can carry fat under the chin even when at a healthy weight) or other unfortunate fat deposits that persist after reaching goal weight.
I can see where there would be a great deal of failure or even disaster if someone attempted to use this as an actual weight loss technique.3 -
I have flabby skin around my gut from where I lost a bunch of weight. My primary care doctor recommended this as opposed to a tummy tuck because of cost, effectiveness and most importantly--safety. Still undecided but interested.0
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EastSideJohnny wrote: »I have flabby skin around my gut from where I lost a bunch of weight. My primary care doctor recommended this as opposed to a tummy tuck because of cost, effectiveness and most importantly--safety. Still undecided but interested.
I would talk to a board certified plastic surgeon before doing it. From my understanding it will not help with loose skin. I saw 7 different doctors before my tummy tuck and did a lot of research and I never came across one that recommended this for a weight loss patient to deal with the skin.2 -
According to the results from the clinical trial, there were results but they were minor. I wouldn't waste my time or money.0
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EastSideJohnny wrote: »I have flabby skin around my gut from where I lost a bunch of weight. My primary care doctor recommended this as opposed to a tummy tuck because of cost, effectiveness and most importantly--safety. Still undecided but interested.
@EastSideJohnny , how much total? With/without insurance?0 -
wackyfunster wrote: »According to the results from the clinical trial, there were results but they were minor. I wouldn't waste my time or money.
It is, but there are so few fat cells eliminated (given the targeted nature and limits of the technology) that I am doubtful that there would be any noticeable effect on the aforementioned disruptions. More study is needed.0 -
It's sounds awesome and if I had the money I'd be getting that and other laser stuff done to perfect my natural beauty. It must be how the rich stay looking rich. Maybe I can get an ice pack and freeze my own fat? Maybe some dry ice lol.1
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DaytonaTheHousecat wrote: »It's sounds awesome and if I had the money I'd be getting that and other laser stuff done to perfect my natural beauty. It must be how the rich stay looking rich. Maybe I can get an ice pack and freeze my own fat? Maybe some dry ice lol.
Because there's nothing quite as sexy as necrosis from frostbite.5 -
For once there is some actual research with positive findings for some methods;
1. Lasers Surg Med. 2009 Dec;41(10):703-8.
Cryolipolysis for subcutaneous fat layer reduction.
Avram MM, Harry RS.
Dermatology Laser & Cosmetic Center, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston,
Massachusetts 02114, USA. mavram@partners.org
BACKGROUND AND OBJECTIVE: Cryolipolysis is a unique non-invasive method for the
selective reduction of fat cells with controlled, localized cooling. It is
important, therefore, to understand the potential efficacy and safety of this new
procedure for fat layer reduction. MATERIALS AND METHODS: A review of the
literature associated with cryolipolysis was performed to evaluate the findings
from pre-clinical and clinical studies with respect to the mechanism of action,
efficacy, and safety. RESULTS: Cryolipolysis has demonstrated efficacy in both
human and animal studies. Histology findings also confirm the selective reduction
of fat in both humans and animals, with evidence of a gradual thinning of the fat
layer over a period of two to four months. Importantly, cryolipolysis has not
produced any significant adverse side effects in studies to date and any noted
effects have been minor and temporary. CONCLUSION: Although the mechanism of
action for cryolipolysis is not yet completely understood, the efficacy and
safety of this non-invasive procedure for fat layer reduction has been
demonstrated in the studies available to data. Further studies willl assist in
identifying the mechanism and elucidate the full potential of this technology to
perform safe, non-invasive fat reduction for areas of local fat accumulation.
Copyright 2009 Wiley-Liss, Inc.
PMID: 20014262 [PubMed - in process]
2. Lasers Surg Med. 2009 Dec;41(10):785-90.
Non-invasive cryolipolysis for subcutaneous fat reduction does not affect serum
lipid levels or liver function tests.
Klein KB, Zelickson B, Riopelle JG, Okamoto E, Bachelor EP, Harry RS, Preciado
JA.
Endpoint LLC, Bainbridge Island, Washington 98110, USA.
BACKGROUND AND OBJECTIVE: Cryolipolysis provides a method of non-invasive fat
reduction that significantly reduces subcutaneous fat without injury to adjacent
tissues. Preliminary animal and human data have suggested that cryolipolysis has
no effect on serum lipid profiles or liver tests. This study was intended to more
fully document any effect of this procedure on lipid and liver-related blood
tests. STUDY DESIGN/MATERIALS AND METHODS: Forty subjects with fat bulges on
their flanks ("love handles") were treated bilaterally with a non-invasive device
(Zeltiq Aesthetics, Pleasanton, CA) that precisely cools tissue to achieve a
reduction in the fat layer. Serum lipid levels and liver tests were measured
prior to treatment, and at 1 day and 1, 4, 8, and 12 weeks post-treatment.
RESULTS: No meaningful changes in mean values were observed for any blood lipid
level or liver test at any point over the 12-week follow-up period. CONCLUSION:
Cryolipolysis, when used for reduction of subcutaneous flank fat, is not
associated with changes in serum lipids or liver test results. Copyright 2009
Wiley-Liss, Inc.
PMID: 20014252 [PubMed - in process]
3. Dermatol Surg. 2009 Oct;35(10):1462-70. Epub 2009 Jul 13.
Cryolipolysis for noninvasive fat cell destruction: initial results from a pig
model.
Zelickson B, Egbert BM, Preciado J, Allison J, Springer K, Rhoades RW, Manstein
D.
Department of Dermatology, University of Minnesota Medical School, Minneapolis,
Minnesota, USA. zelic002@earthlink.net
BACKGROUND: Liposuction is one of the most frequently performed cosmetic
procedures in the United States, but its cost and downtime has led to the
development of noninvasive approaches for adipose tissue reduction. OBJECTIVE: To
determine whether noninvasive controlled and selective destruction of fat cells
(Cryolipolysis) can selectively damage subcutaneous fat without causing damage to
the overlying skin or rise in lipid levels. METHODS: Three Yucatan pigs underwent
Cryolipolysis at 22 sites: 20 at cooling intensity factor (CIF) index 24.5 (-43.8
mW/cm(2)), one at CIF 24.9 (-44.7 mW/cm(2)), and one at CIF 25.4 (-45.6
mW/cm(2)). Treated areas were evaluated using photography, ultrasound, and gross
and microscopic pathology. Lipids were at various times points. One additional
pig underwent Cryolipolysis at various days before euthanasia. RESULTS: The
treatments resulted in a significant reduction in the superficial fat layer
without damage to the overlying skin. An inflammatory response triggered by
cold-induced apoptosis of adipocytes preceded the reduction in the fat layer.
Evaluation of lipids over a 3-month period following treatment demonstrated that
cholesterol and triglyceride values remained normal. CONCLUSIONS: Cryolipolysis
is worthy of further study because it has been shown to significantly decrease
subcutaneous fat and change body contour without causing damage to the overlying
skin and surrounding structures or deleterious changes in blood lipids.
PMID: 19614940 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
4. Aesthetic Plast Surg. 2009 Jul;33(4):482-8. Epub 2009 Mar 19.
Clinical efficacy of noninvasive cryolipolysis and its effects on peripheral
nerves.
Coleman SR, Sachdeva K, Egbert BM, Preciado J, Allison J.
Department of Surgery, NYU School of Medicine, 44 Hudson Street, New York, NY
10013, USA. LipoStructure@yahoo.com
BACKGROUND: Cryolipolysis provides a method for noninvasive fat reduction that
significantly reduces subcutaneous fat in a pig model without apparent damage to
skin and surrounding structures. This study aimed to determine whether fat
reduction in humans caused by cold exposure is associated with alteration in
local sensory function or nerve fibers. METHODS: In this study, 10 subjects were
treated with a prototype cooling device. Fat reduction was assessed in 9 of the
10 subjects via ultrasound before treatment and at the follow-up visit. Sensory
function was assessed by neurologic evaluation (n = 9), and biopsies (n = 1) were
collected for nerve staining. RESULTS: Treatment resulted in a normalized fat
layer reduction of 20.4% at 2 months and 25.5% at 6 months after treatment.
Transient reduction in sensation occurred in six of nine subjects assessed by
neurologic evaluation. However, all sensation returned by a mean of 3.6 weeks
after treatment. Biopsies showed no long-term change in nerve fiber structure.
There were no lasting sensory alterations or observations of skin damage in any
of the subjects evaluated. CONCLUSION: Noninvasive cryolipolysis results in
substantial fat reduction within 2 months of treatment without damage to skin.
The procedure is associated with modest reversible short-term changes in the
function of peripheral sensory nerves.
PMID: 19296153 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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DaytonaTheHousecat wrote: »It's sounds awesome and if I had the money I'd be getting that and other laser stuff done to perfect my natural beauty. It must be how the rich stay looking rich. Maybe I can get an ice pack and freeze my own fat? Maybe some dry ice lol.
Because there's nothing quite as sexy as necrosis from frostbite.
I was only kidding.
I actually give myself home made coffee scrub massages on my thighs, that and walking have made my legs nice.0 -
It's a cosmetic procedure. It's not for weight loss. Results are questionable at best.0
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